Nokia 808 PureView Hands-on Review
0. phoneArena 27 Feb 2012, 04:42 posted on
Alright, so here it is, probably the last (or one of the very last) Symbian smartphones ever – the Nokia 808 PureView. And boy is this an epic way for Symbian to exit the industry!
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1. rycx365 (Posts: 37; Member since: 18 Mar 2011)
AWESOME CAMERA, but it's 2012, still 1.3ghz single core with 512mb ram??? Dual core and i'd get it, there's more to a smartphone than having the best camera (even if it's my a HUGE margin)
10. weirdfisher (Posts: 51; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
1.3ghz single core with 512mb ram
which phone can record 1080p video with such spec...please?
11. Leo_MC (Posts: 1150; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
WP works flawlessly with single core, so does S^3, so does iOS (all of them 1080p video, 8 MP photo).
It make one think "why on earth would we need quad, hexa, octo etc cores"?!
18. Leo_MC (Posts: 1150; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
You're right, no wp can record 1080p, my bad.
But you get my point: single cores cand record/play 1080p (this Nokia is the living prove).
25. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
also, the iphone 4s is the only one to take 8mp images and shoot 1080 video. it has a dual core (but ultimately your point is correct).
41 (or 38) mp is complete overkill. why do that?
35. rafael.roque (Posts: 78; Member since: 03 Jul 2010)
The extra MP count is use as the alternative to a physical(even much bulkier) traditional optical zoom lens. Rather than bulk up the phone even more; they used the extra MPs taking in by the camera sensor to allow the user to zoom in up to 4 times without loosing quality as traditional digital zooming does.
Again it's not about the megapixel count although at a glance sounds crazy lol; as this is a high quality carl zeiss lens even greater than that found on the Nokia N8.
39. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
i get the purpose, but with 4x zoom, you might need 10, 12 mp at most. 38 is absurd. the higher mp, the more digital zoom you can pull off, but at some point the low quality of the sensor is going to prevail. and i know its a high quality camera phone sensor, but that is still low quality compared to most point and shoots.
40. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
The EXCESS megapixels all you to zoom in without losing any detail. Way better than the ordinary digital zoom.
Larger sensor also allows better low light performance.
And anyway, the final picture is in 2,3,5,8 Megapixels.
82. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
NONE of them except symbian did 1080p without a dual core, and if i remember correctly, the Nokias have specialized chips in them to let them do that. WP7 still doesnt do anything higher than 720p.
the extra cores are for more advanced functionality. You just named iOS, Symbian and WP7, which are all streamlined, non multitasking systems. Android does true multitasking which is why it requires more horsepower.
84. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
no actually Symbian does true multitasking... it was the first OS to do this and continues to do this...
you can consistently find users running 22apps+ on their N8s even and that only has 256mb ram and 680mhz
there have been some claims/demonstrations of much higher #s but i'll just post about the average... google it
Androids inefficient thats why it needs all the extra power
3. danieru.05 (Posts: 7; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
yeah your right...let us say that 1.3 ghz single core and 512 ram is sufficient to run nokia pure view fluently...but is it possible to compete with the giant smart phones out there with dual core or quad core processors???i dont think so...camera ALONE is not very essential to a person...but others consider the whole package instead..
8. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
To compete with other phones Nokia has their new flagship phone Nokia 900 .
This is a "camera" phone . This is a mobile for people who think camera is the most important part in their mobile . This stands alone like a beast . And to say the truth actually there is no competition for this mobile in this department .
And other things of this mobile is not bad either . Its has good enough specs to be a decent smartphone .
I think you missed the important part . It is only 600$ for a 41 MP camera . If they added any other things the price will be huge and i don't think many can afford such a price .
15. danieru.05 (Posts: 7; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
yeah yeah yeah...ur right...hope they will launch this phone here @philippines...im sure this will be a must see phone.. ^_^
64. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Philippines will probably get it around Q4 or Q1 of 2013. :p
89. Medel (Posts: 84; Member since: 31 May 2011)
the price of this Nokia 808 Pureview. guesstimate 25 to 27k php. I want to buy this in 2014. i still have my nokia n8.
66. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
yes wanted that phone hope this will be available in the philippines as soon as possible right kabayan!
44. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Plus the screen resolution for a 4inch screen is a massive mistake from nokia
74. steelicon (Posts: 317; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
Monitor Product type OLED
Size 3.0 inches (3:2)
Total no. of pixels 614,000 dots 960x640
Nokia 808 Pure View
Pixels 230,400 dots 360x640
You be the judge.
56. Snoobab (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
If the 808 ran slowly, fair enough to complain. The fact is we've seen no slowdown. If 1.3GHz offers a plesant user experience, why suck more power with a dual-core?
To quote from the 808 PureView whitepaper...
"One of the reasons the Nokia 808 PureView has taken so long to develop is down to processing power. We simply couldn’t get hold of enough. Even the most powerful mobile chipsets have an upper limit of around 20Mpix image processing capability. The Nokia 808 PureView eats up more than double that."
"For video, the amount of pixels handled through the processing chain is staggering — over 1 billion pixels per second, and 16x oversampling. That’s a throughput of pixels 16 times greater than many other smartphones."
The 808 has many seperate processors (image, GPU, CPU) so much of the work normally done my a phone's CPU is offloaded to these. It's a shame the masses are so uninformed.
57. shadez10 (Posts: 427; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
your really right... all they think is if its symbian its bad...
then think twice people... symbian can do anything just like what android does...
65. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Finally! Someone who doesn't churn out un-researched non-sense! Yeah, I actually applaud Nokia for segregating the camera processing. Fits a principle I follow perfectly. Build something simple that works (from the creator of the AK-47). Then combine these simple things to create something complex. But keep in mind that complex is not the same as complicated.
68. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
To note, the Belle FP1 808 beat a WP in a Windows Phone Challenge at MWC when it came to taking a picutre and posting it to FB. Seems Noia's approach to combining a massive GPU plus latest scaling chip within the camera module has resulted in a very fast and efficient shooter.
70. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Agreed. The camera is only one element of a phone. I wouldn't purchase a phone for the sole reason that it has a nice camera. What about reception, usability, screen size and quality, OS, design, and battery life.
71. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
Each operating system has different requirements to run it
Symbian has always been more efficient compared to the rest
that's why even on the N8 with 680mhz 256mb ram it could run the same apps/games that Android needed dual cores to run
just look at Belle OS the N8 can run it smoothly and it has half the cpu/ram that the 808 does
and lets not forget that theres also a 1gb GPU in the device
75. steelicon (Posts: 317; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
01.) Xenon Flash;
02.) LED video light;
03.) 1080p 30 fps video with Continuous AutoFocus
04.) Bluetooth 3.0;
07.) micro USB 2.0;
08.) USB On-The-Go;
09.) Secure NFC ;
10.) 3.5 mm audio connector with TV-out;
11.) FM transmitter;
12.) WIFI A/B/G/N.
Show me a single ANDROID mobile phone device or APPLE mobile phone device that has ALL of these features.
Ha! I knew it! :p
87. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
This is the first device I know of that have both Xenon Flash and LED video light.
93. danieru.05 (Posts: 7; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
lets see how the quality of photos looks like in reality...
113. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
That is so true, my friend... The only brilliant feature the 808 has is the camera. Period.
4. moneyrockers (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
I want to have this SmartesT PhonE. Running on Belle is great, I hope Carla and Donna update is possible. Nokia RoCkZZZZZZ........
5. miksu (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)
Yes, true about that processing power. But also, symbian doesnt need as much power, its more efficient
6. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
I thought Nokia is done with Symbian already, why churn out another handset with it?
46. bintheham (Posts: 13; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I'm sure there was a contractual obligation to release it, just like the one and only Meego phone. Windows Phone is the future of Nokia, this phone will be forgotten by the few that will even hear about it.
58. shadez10 (Posts: 427; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
i believe this will not be forgotten... its revolutionary for a camera phone... this phone is epic... it wouldnt be that easy to forgot...
7. ScottSchneider (Posts: 334; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
I don't need a smart phone with this high camera resolution., Probably no one would either... What is more important is the sensor size for really good pics... A Photo taken with this piece of hardware, I would see it in the phone itself or in my PC. I aint gonna print a hoarding with a 500 feet size... this is utter crappyness...
9. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
You need to learn more about camera . And how high camera sensors can be useful at least for some people . May be this is not the mobile for you :)
16. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
dude i am a freerunner and for pictures and video this will beat the crap out of normal everyday 24Mpx or higher cameras
41. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
Dude, the large megapixel isn't there so you can print 500 ft pics of yourself (that comes as an added advantage of the "over the top" megapixels), it primary purpose is to allow zooming in without losing the quality of the shot.
114. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
Finally! Someone who understood what the Megapixel count is for the 808. I just hope that zooming in and out is fast and seamless for this phone. Otherwise you'd lose precious moments.
13. ryq24 (Posts: 698; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
this phone will send shrivers to camera maker not to samsung or apple but it still is a good looking phone.
14. DIYguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 27 Feb 2011)
Is there a physical camera button with focus??
17. ghost__uwi (Posts: 175; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)
wow i always wanted to do lunar surveying from my phone and thanks to nokia I can do it now !!! :D
19. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
This is freaking awesome i am a camer phone fan.
And symbian belle doesn't look outdated if you actually have used it. Symbian belle is cool hope they make donna and carla more like meego then nokia can come back from windows phone to symbian. And the processor on nokia pureView is good as it is. what are you gonna do on a quad core show the benchmarks to your friends.
27. zaryab_hussain77 (Posts: 104; Member since: 30 Jun 2011)
what will u do of a 41mp shooter............
42. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
Take really cool pics and video from a distance, say at a concert or football game.
54. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Take noiseless 5MP to 9MP stills that rival some DSLR's. Take 4x zooms of 1080p video at 30fps, retaining full 1080p resolution in the process (lossless zoom). Take low light action shots with a massive Xenon flash, take nighttime video with a hi intesity LED/Torch. Take massive 38MP raw images and later crop HD photos in various areas of the image at a later date. That's what I will do.
21. flopjoke (Posts: 42; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
Jizz in my pants. This phone is the perfect way for Nokia to be the KING in camera phones all over again. Perfect way for Symbian to bid farewell.
Although that red color is meh. Black version of the 808 looks perfect.
22. vishalvenky (Posts: 67; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
love u Nokia.. symbian is the only OS which can handle such camera sensors.. none others can.. not just 10,12,14 its 41MP man.. think of it and the name defines it.. PUREVIEW.
36. rafael.roque (Posts: 78; Member since: 03 Jul 2010)
That's right people, despite what others write about Symbian; it is the only mobile OS capable of processing and working with this beast of a camera module! I will remind you all, that it was Nokia who got us the first Smartphone camera and their camera technology legacy can be traced through the N70, N95, N82, N86 and most recently the N8 before the 808!
59. shadez10 (Posts: 427; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
thats why symbian aint gonna die that easy... =D
115. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
It's already on it's deathbead... talking to its grandchildren Belle, Carla, and Donna... Telling them about the good old tales of past glory their Granpa Symbian had and the N-Gage regrets...
24. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
this is the BEST cameraphone for the next 3 years atleast
124. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)
808 is the last of symbian. and its on life support.
26. LodeStar (Posts: 28; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
cool, a bit plasticy tho & screen res sux, the black & white looks gorgeous. i have a friend who uses n8 but i never saw him printed a pic from it he only uploads it to FB and thats it