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No sales ban for the HTC One in the Netherlands

0. phoneArena 23 Apr 2013, 21:37 posted on

In the aftermath of the Amsterdam district court's decision to give Nokia a preliminary injunction in a patent case where the HTC One was using without permission, a dual-membrane microphone found on the Nokia Lumia 720, the court issued a 10-month ban on sales of the part, which ST Microelectronics mistakenly sold before an exclusivity period with Nokia ended...

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posted on 23 Apr 2013, 21:42 14

1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8915; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Good news! Let the HTC succeed because it deserves every right to!

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 22:53 6

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5950; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


AND for those who haven't already snapped up a One, they might want to do so before the supply runs out. 'Cause after they are gone, they are gone. At least until a suitable replacement is found.

I am thinking of getting an un-locked One, myself.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 21:47 11

2. joey_sfb (Posts: 3209; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


HTC one is really cool. I like their new UI. You guy should check it out.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 21:53 7

3. Penny (Posts: 1259; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


I think that's a pretty fair decision. Tell HTC they have to go find another part (but no financial penalties because it wasn't their fault), give Nokia extended exclusivity, and prevent ST Microelectronics from selling the part altogether for a period to make sure they don't make the same mistake again.

I'm guessing HTC will later seek some sort of monetary damages from ST Microelectronics as well.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 21:56 8

4. MultiYouTroll (Posts: 29; Member since: 19 Apr 2013)


I think they should let HTC pay Nokia a percentage of the sales of One with Nokia's tech..

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 01:18 4

11. MultiYouTroll (Posts: 29; Member since: 19 Apr 2013)


Why do I get thumbs down for saying that is logically sound? HTC fanboys are as bad as any fanboys I guess

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 13:48 1

21. chocolaking (Posts: 461; Member since: 22 May 2012)


It could a strategy plan fron Nokia that intentionally sells the mic chips to HTC, and once it hits the market. Nokia takes HTC with lawsuit.
No one knows the detail behind..
But the court and the judege , what's revealed is what's been decided.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 18:11

23. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I think Nokia is smarter than that. They should know that they will only win on the lawsuit against ST Microelectronics and HTC will not be in trouble. The most Nokia can do is to prevent sale of One until after 12 month agreement is over and when HTC actually signs an agreement to use the patented product. If it's really a strategy plan, then it'll be use Nokia and HTC, no others will be involved. Regardless, I'm pretty glad that HTC ban is lifted, after all it's not their fault at all.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 23:26 3

9. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


"While Nokia had an 12 month exclusive on the part, ST Microelectronics thought that the exclusivity period was for only 6 months, so it sold the part to HTC."
I think that's a pretty lame excuse from ST Electronic's side. From a professional business point of view, these 'exclusive' periods should be taken into account seriously. This is something that needs no reminding, not to mention the damage that they're going to suffer.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 22:24 3

5. hung2900 (Posts: 821; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


The problem is, no more rich recording for One anymore.
so just first batch having it, but One is still not available in many countries.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 03:00 1

15. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


So for later batches of HTC One, expect the paltry 4MP (ultrapixel whatever) camera and no Nokia rich recording. And expect delays before that too. Well played Nokia.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 22:46 3

6. lyndon420 (Posts: 1785; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Now hold on a minute here. If this is Nokia's tech, how can there be an exclusive period? Sounds to me like this is ST Microelectronics tech that they sold to Nokia for a predetermined amount of time.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 23:22

8. -box- (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Read the original article.

posted on 23 Apr 2013, 23:49 4

10. Penny (Posts: 1259; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


It was co-produced by Nokia and ST Microelectronics. My understanding of how this probably worked is that Nokia went to ST Microelectronics and asked them to supply an advanced microphone component. The two companies worked together to design and engineer the component, and ST remains the sole manufacturer. That setup earned Nokia an exclusive period to use the component, after which ST Microelectronics could do with it as they see fit.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 03:01 1

16. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Well said, Penny.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 18:04

22. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I just want to add to your comment. Even tho ST Microelectronics has the right to sell the chips after the contract agreement, Nokia still owns the patent for the technology. Regardless whether the chip is exclusive or not, the manufacturers still has sign an agreement in order to avoid patent violations.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 01:32 1

12. rock_rock (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)


"HTC won't have to replace the HTC One units already made. The only problem is that they will have to find a replacement source for the part in a hurry."

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 02:52

13. willard12 (Posts: 879; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


I guess Nokia chose not to release a statement today like they did yesterday.

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 03:00 3

14. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


oh yes, it is surely banned in the netherlands, not just a sales ban but a shipment ban as well. I really don't know why PA is the only one trying to twist this story. Look at other sites as well, even use google with "htc one netherlands". Poor HTC as well as HTC owners, they will now need to find an alternative component for future HTC One microphone production, or else future HTC owners will get subpar quality. At least we can all now say that HTC is using quality components, since they are using Nokia's technology. But just to save HTC's own ass, why don't they just change their "HDR Microphone" and put a logo on their phones that say "comes original NOKIA HDR microphone".... :)

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 04:39 2

17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


somehow most guys know ST had it coming HTC wasnt to blame here

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 07:10 1

18. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6726; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


The hell with you nokia. Dont act like apple. And stop being M$ puppet. Everyone have the right sell their device

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 10:18

19. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


Did you even tried to read something and understand whats going on?

posted on 24 Apr 2013, 10:19

20. boosook (Posts: 1085; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Well, in this case, if they had this 12 months exclusivity, I think they're right... they designed their own microphone only to see the manufacturer selling it to a competitor...

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