No Root for you, as the newest update for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 kills it
0. phoneArena 17 Jul 2013, 14:48 posted on
Verizon's newest update for the Samsung Galaxy S4 is being sent over-the-air, but it will no longer allow you to root and unlock your phone after being installed.
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1. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
And Verizon can just claim it's all in the name of customer service. It pisses off the techies, but Verizon will do whatever it can to maintain control of software updates and prevent rooting. They put that bloatware on the phone for a reason, dontcha know.
21. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
No need to even worry about that because the development community is too strong. Someone will figure out a new exploit. Verizon couldn't slow down the Note 2 development with updates and the s4 won't be any different.
34. medicci37 (Posts: 859; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
The dev community should start boycotting Verizon devices. & encourage people to use alternative carriers
32. sprockkets (Posts: 1464; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
But, but, I thought Android phones don't get patches that close up vulnerabilities!
Don't forget that crowd of idiots.
2. yowanvista (Posts: 331; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Americans are funny, for some reason they can't use normal unlocked phones like people from the civilized world.
6. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Even we have subsidies in India. You can buy a Galaxy S4 on a 1 year contract for free.
22. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
We have greedy corporations that want to have control over everything. That's why every android device that I've owned have been rooted and unlocked.
38. Sauce (unregistered)
Meanwhile in India, your market is falling apart faster than an over soaked milky Oreo.
35. idontknownything (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Mar 2013)
LOL what? subsidies? they rip you off in the name of subsidies
5. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
And an enormously popular, uncivilized CDMA carrier.
23. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Not uncivilized, just a corporate giant that wants to control everything.
12. gagdude (Posts: 31; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)
yes we can, it's just that the largest and best coverage carrier is CDMA. however the civilized claim is a little harsh and pretty offensive
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE, THE CONSUMER, DONT FRICKIN CONTROL THE NETWORKS WE CAN USE
I use t-mobile but even I have to admit network coverage is spotty. however I am able to use a "normal" unlocked phone (nexus 4 ftw!) on them and they have the most budget friendly rates
24. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Consumers do have the right to choose which carrier they use. Unfortunately as long as they continue to sign 2 year agreements, they are acknowledging the acceptance of the carriers practices.
The only reason why I'm still with my carrier VZW is because I've been able to keep my unlimited data on every single line that had it before this shared data junk.
7. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Verizon has been like this for years and years. Their device selection is consistently dated. Their plans are the most expensive. And their LTE network is hardly anything special anymore. I can't believe there are still people out there who haven't switched.
13. gagdude (Posts: 31; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)
first of all, I never plan on using verizon nor have I ever, but I can find perfectly valid reasons for people to stick with it, primarily being coverage since even though their LTE is not as fast as others, it is literally everywhere. places where I get edge on t-mobile (not a big deal to me, usually happens when I travel which isn't often), it's covered by verizon LTE or at the least 3G
I'm jealous of the coverage, but definitely NOT at the price, device selection, CDMA, etc.
16. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
tmobile is garbage compared to verizon nuff said
18. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
" I can't believe there are still people out there who haven't switched."
When ppl try other carriers....and get better service with Verizon, well....thats why. Some of us do actually rely on reliable service. In my area...its either Verizon or AT&T. Sprint and T Mo suck eggs.
28. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I'm having a hard time switching because I don't want to give up my unlimited data and/or deal with throttled data speeds. I've seen text messages from "unlimited everything carriers" that charge one price who've told their customers if they continue to use so much data, they would have their data speeds reduced.
To this day I don't know anybody with unlimited data for Verizon that can tell me that they've forced Verizon to throttle their data speeds because they've used too much data.
31. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
To add on to what gagdude is saying,some people just don't care about all these changes Verizon is making because it has no affect on how they use their devices.
9. twcobra (Posts: 9; Member since: 25 Apr 2012)
The same thing happend to At&t's S4 with the MF3 update. Glad I did not upgrade yet. To bad to. I was a big Samsung Galaxy fan. Now I need to move on to something new.
10. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1455; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
It doesn't matter. If you are rooted and unlocked, you can't get OTAs, anyway, unless you are using a root saver, in which case, you should know better than to blindly update.
30. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
You can get the OTA updates, you just have to wait a little while longer, so that you can give some awesome developer a chance to make it root safe and then you can flash the official OTA update.
11. Whateverman (Posts: 3235; Member since: 17 May 2009)
You can always count on VZW to shaft its customers! All this just to make sure you Can't remove the bloatware that nobody uses. SMH
14. gagdude (Posts: 31; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)
If you are already rooted why the hell don't you flash cyanogenmod and forget about official updates
25. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Custom ROMs aren't perfect as I've had my share of issues with them. While the issues that exist are minor, they are enough for some such as myself to pass up on them.
For example the last custom ROM I ran had something removed from it that prevent a phone locator app (website) that I use from being able to communicate with my device. After flashing back to a stocked but rooted ROM, everything worked as normal.
26. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
So for me I don't mind the official updates, but I like to have the root access because I can do things like use automated apps combined with root access to bypass security features in android versions 4.0+ that prevent users from being able to have automated control their GPS hardware. Secondly I like to be able to backup all my apps so that if I have to perform a factory reset I can restore all of my app settings. Others like having the ability to simply remove the bloatware that carriers have preinstalled on their devices.
17. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
wow, all those issues on a flagship device... lmfao.
20. Whateverman (Posts: 3235; Member since: 17 May 2009)
So is Samsung. All the way to the bank.
19. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
On one hand I kinda agree that ppl knowledgable enough to root or know about rooting knows to just stay the custom ROM, leak route.
On the other hand....some ppl root just to use root apps and thats it. Even then they should have seen disclaimers about not taking updates in whatever forum they learned how to root.
29. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 306; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The typical wait for an official update to become safe for the rooted users to install on popular devices is no longer than I'd say 5-7 days. I really can't speak to the not so popular devices because I've haven't owned one as of yet.
33. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Wow. If I was their customer, I'd sue them..