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Nexus X benchmarks confirm internals and that Android L is version 5.0

0. phoneArena 25 Aug 2014, 15:00 posted on

The news keeps coming quickly these days. We now know that the so-called Nexus 6 will most likely be called the Nexus X. We know that it is based on the Moto S (Shamu), meaning it has a 5.9-inch 1440x2560 (2K) display. And, we are getting evidence that Android L will be nicknamed Lemon Meringue Pie. Now, we're getting more info via benchmarks...

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posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:02 3

1. AJagtiani (Posts: 466; Member since: 24 Apr 2014)


Samsung should've made a Nexus. Lenovo errr... Motorola's phones aren't great.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:09 14

3. NexusPhan (Posts: 538; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


They had they chance and it was a disaster. Never again.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:21 14

9. sipha (Posts: 325; Member since: 12 May 2012)


How was it a disaster??

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:29 11

12. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


They received a lot of criticism for the processor they used in the G-Nex, and the Nexus-S was arguably the most forgettable Nexus yet.

I wouldn't exactly call them "disasters" but of the five Nexus phones so far, my personal two least favorite have been the Samsung ones.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:41 8

16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8922; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Nexus S blew the competition in terms of speed thanks to the Hummingbird processor. The Galaxy Nexus brought the first HD screen to the market, but the LTE radios at the time,as in all phones released in 2011/2012, drained battery. Imo, they were great phones.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 06:14 1

69. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3617; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Really!? well Nexus S was outdated for the time, the competition was outing dual cores and better cameras, and Hummingbird was a chipset from the OG Galaxy S, a phone almost 8-9 months old.
Check this review
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_s-review-565.php
Regarding the Galaxy Nexus, yes it was a great phone, but TI OMAP 4 was inferior than Exynos.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 20:04 1

50. canucker78 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 May 2014)


I think Ti was used to make the phone pentaband and was the only real option at the time.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 21:45 3

51. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


I think you have it confused with the Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus S was a very popular phone, it was very smooth and responsive and the Super AMOLED display was excellent as well.

The Galaxy Nexus had a underpowered processor, a brand spanking new ICS UI that was clearly bugged and rushed out and needed time to fix the bugs, and again, one of the first few LTE devices and we all know how well the first few LTE phones were.

I think now with those problems gone and out of the way, Samsung would make an excellent Nexus phone.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 06:17

70. NexusPhan (Posts: 538; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


It was a disaster for a Nexus. It launched as two different phones with Verizon exclusivity in the US and a staggered launch to other carriers. A big no for a Nexus device. Then the phone had horrible build quality, a ton of issues with the screen (burn in and vertical lines from day one) and of course the bad battery life. Hardware inside started to fail early on. Then the software was abandoned after one year and had delayed updates for Verizon approval (LTE variant) It's still on 4.2 today. DISASTER.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:08

28. baldilocks (Posts: 542; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)


'They had they??'

English, please!

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:18 8

29. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Those were all English words, but I understand what you're trying to say. What I don't understand is why you're bothering to correct what is clearly a typo. It's pretty clear what he intended to say, so it's not like his gaffe detracted from his message.

(Oh, and if you're wondering why I'm bothering to criticize you over such a trivial matter, it's because I'm sitting on a toilet.)

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 18:22 1

42. 87186 (Posts: 85; Member since: 01 Aug 2014)


there is a difference between, english and improper english. stay on topic.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:40 2

15. mrmessma (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


I've been pretty happy with my wife's maxx, the camera isn't the best in low light but battery life, smoothness/speed, reception couldn't be better.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:45 1

17. BLUEBLASTER (Posts: 100; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)


The thing is the need to keep it cheap so they wont go crazy with the specs and also they don't want it to compete with their current flagships so they will make it less appealing.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:28 1

30. engineer-1701d (Posts: 1224; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


why does everyone believe the antutu on a device no one knows about nexus will not be a 5.9 screen its to close to tablet and no one would buy it but 10% of the normal buyer asia loves massive phones because they are little and think bigger is better but no phone should be over 5 inch.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 18:21 4

41. geordie8t1 (unregistered)


in your opinion a phone should not be over 5", but lets say in my view no phone should be UNDER 5" unless its a mid range feature phone, and as the fact often is, bigger usually is better Specs wise at least anyhow

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 23:56

53. engineer-1701d (Posts: 1224; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


You so wrong over 5 inch is not a phone that's bigger then the old moto phones from the ,90's

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 04:42

64. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


phone must be bigger than 5.3" bcoz its more easier to read and write

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 18:33 2

43. JGuinan007 (Posts: 639; Member since: 19 May 2011)


You re so very wrong no smartphone should be under 5.7 inch, once you use a smart phone this size you can't go back to anything smaller feature phones and dumb phone can be smaller

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 04:39

63. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


"asia loves massive phones because they are little"...

brother, do you have ever seen chinese, mogolians, japanese or koreans in reality? no you didnt, right? by no definition they are little... do you call 172cm to 190cm a little? thats the usual height of these people...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 03:00

79. YourNickname (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Chinese, mongolians(lol) , japs, kors ive seen in reality. Reality is theyre 150cm or less and im a giant walking amongst them. They have such extreme napolean complexes that its apart of their government agenda to increase hieght through growth hormones in food &/or just propaganda their claims.

Like you, brother. Extreme napolean complexes, brother.

Ps ok ive never seen a mongolian, but every docu and anthony bourdaine episode theyre all midgets next to him.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 17:31 5

38. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


What makes Motorola phones "not great?"

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 09:52

75. techspace (Posts: 774; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Maybe that's because Motorola now belongs to Lenovo.....so it's not as popular as it used to be....they have to work hard to regain it's(Motorola's)lost glory.......

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 02:04 1

57. needa (Posts: 151; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


i just want to sya here and now... i am so tired of the lenovo jokes/comments. comments like this were old and overused months ago. seriously... give it up.

the company name is motorola. the compny name is going to stay motorola. kinda like how kfc is not called taco bell. and how both of those companies are not called pepsi.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 08:18 1

71. akki20892 (Posts: 3652; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


We want Sony nexus....

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 09:43

73. techspace (Posts: 774; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Selling them at relatively lower prices won't be possible if Samsung makes them.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:08 4

2. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1057; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


It´s actually quite common that phones with a new version of the OS score low on Antutu.
I has pretty much happened to the complete Nexus line. And doesn´t mean a thing, just that Antutu is not performing well on that version (yet)
Some months later Antutu puts a version for that Android Version and that solves the issue.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:12 6

4. Antimio (Posts: 279; Member since: 11 Nov 2013)


I don't want a 5.9" display!!!! I just can't!

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:24

11. Heatfan316 (Posts: 453; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Well going to have to bro! You can't do anything about it! So you're forced to but it whether you like it or not.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:46 4

18. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2692; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Luckily, you can purchase any number of other devices that won't have such a big screen, like the Moto X+1, or the HTC One Google Play edition

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 09:47

74. techspace (Posts: 774; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


you can, but a nexus is a nexus :D

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:07 2

25. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Well, I want 5.9" display... its more easy to read articles and site like PA on a bigger screen

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:59 1

32. VyktorJonas (Posts: 35; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)


that's what laptops and tablets are for

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 17:11 4

34. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Laptops and tablets don't fit in your pocket.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 18:21 1

40. Awalker (Posts: 560; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


The Nexus 7 does.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 04:45

65. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


not really, is it better to carry two devices or just one? ofcourse one... so the phone which sits in middle of tablet n small phone is better than anything

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 10:05

76. techspace (Posts: 774; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


even a 5.9'' display is not good enough for reading/for websites like phonearena...you will need a tablet or a desktop.
A 5.9 inch phone would be too big to use (comfortably) with a single hand and it would be a little too big to carry if the bezels aren't too small.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:16 4

5. Planterz (Posts: 1080; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Nexus devices typically score low in benchmarks. That's because the software isn't optimized to generate high benchmark scores. Flashing a custom ROM and/or kernel and tweaking a few things can make a Nexus device benchmark as high as any flagship. This is no different than Samsung or LG or HTC using their own kernels and ROM firmware.

And always remember that benchmark scores are not always an indication of actual real-world performance. I can run my Nexus 4 CM11 with 2 cores clocked at 1.2GHz and it barely stutters, while my Galaxy Light with 4 cores clocked at 1.4GHz lags horribly with basic tasks like loading texts or bringing up the keyboard.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:07

24. tury694 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


They just don't come with the dalvik and bionic libraries added to the kernel. Those are qualcom optimizations.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 19:09

48. Canaan (Posts: 131; Member since: 25 May 2014)


Nexus 4 has 4 cores not 2 and it's clocked at 1.5ghz not 1.2.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 02:23 2

59. Planterz (Posts: 1080; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


No $^%#? Really? Thanks for enlightening me on the specs of my own $#^@ing phone that I've flashed custom ROMs and kernels to. I'd never have known without your insight and expertise what my device was actually capable of. /sarcasm

With Hellscore kernel and manager, I can limit the cores being used and the max clock speed (to save battery), amongst other hardware tweaks.

The point, which you so spectacularly missed, is that benchmarks don't mean much. Running my Nexus 4 with 2x1.2GHz cores works better than my Galaxy Light with 4x1.4GHz cores. Benchmarks are a bit lower - 15xxx vs 16-17xxx with Antutu, but it still runs better, and without the kind of lag that makes you want to turn your phone into a hockey puck. But when I turn it up to eleven, and use an overclocked kernel like AK, I can run 24xxx+ Antutu scores. When I got my N4, it was running about 16k, stock, on 4.4.4. Installed CM11, flashed optimized Dalvic and Qualcomm binaries, and it jumped to 21-22k. That's before I started trying different kernels.

An Antutu score of 37000 on stock Nexus device means we'll be seeing 40-45K+ once the developers get ahold of them and start their magic.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 02:43 2

61. Canaan (Posts: 131; Member since: 25 May 2014)


I'm well aware that antutu scores don't always apply to the real world, I simply mentioned the cores as I'm not familiar with roms and kernel names. I did know that those modifications increase performance or that they could brick your phone and that the device loses the warranty if used, but I did not know they could disable cores in that manner.

P.S. Not everyone here is a tech expert no need to be so rude.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:17 1

6. AfterShock (Posts: 2958; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Sweet, its getting closer.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:18 1

7. nohatenofanboy (banned) (Posts: 515; Member since: 15 Jul 2014)


1440p isnt 2K.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:35 1

13. harsha_bonmec (Posts: 13; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


What if I tell you it actually is...
refer wiki 2k resolution... for that matter full hd is also 2k

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:58 4

20. timepilot84 (Posts: 97; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


2K is 2048x1080. This is QHD which is higher resolution than 2K.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 17:12 2

35. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)


OEMS don't care its a marketing term.

The proper name for 2560x1440 is WQHD (Wide Quad HD, 4x higher than 720p).

1920x1080 is the 16:9 2k resolution.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:20

8. Oğuzhan_77 (Posts: 42; Member since: 18 Nov 2013)


OHH nice ı want nexus x and modular smartphone.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:22 2

10. vuyonc (Posts: 384; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


1080p still the perfect resolution under 6 inches. It would have been cheaper and run faster. Project Volta creeps into apps and it would last longer on a charge.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 17:18 1

36. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)


1440p should only be using on phones 5.5" and above.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:39 2

14. YourNickname (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Shamu-aka-Nexus-6-full-specs-leak-5.2-QHD-screen-Snapdragon-805-and-Android-L_id59287

This article says it or the moto s its based on is 5.2 inch. Hope its 5.2 inch because the majority of users want between 5.5 and 4.5. Also that benchmark is terrible, hope thats wrong too, performing way worse than the 1440p sd805 galaxy s5 lte-a. Thats a disappointing nexus.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 15:48 2

19. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2692; Member since: 26 May 2011)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-developing-8-devices-for-release-by-Christmas-including-a-Nexus_id59612

The Nexus is based on the larger 5.9-inch Moto S. The smaller 5.2-inch Moto S is just a backup in case people really like the size of the X+1. The Moto S could be either size, but the Nexus is set at 5.9.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:04

23. tury694 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


Do you think that leaked GFX benchmark from earlier this month is just a Moto S with a 5.2 inch screen running L?

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:08 1

27. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2692; Member since: 26 May 2011)


From what I've heard, both sizes of the Moto S are in development, so that would be the most likely explanation.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:47 1

31. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 913; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)


I am sold on the size so long Note 4....I just hope there is at least a 3000Mah battery to seal the deal. Motorola has had great success with signal strength, and the software being pure Google is the next reason besides the screen size that seals this for me. The Photon soured me towards Moto because of the failed software support, but with Google running the software I am all in.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 04:51

67. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


well, I will flash it with CM rom

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 00:01 1

54. engineer-1701d (Posts: 1224; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


that's just speculation I don't think Motorola would release a Nexus device that large no market for it in the u.s they would lose so much

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 05:42

68. Ashoaib (Posts: 2425; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


and I hope this speculation will be true

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:01 1

21. tury694 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


Maybe the 5.9 inch screen is true, but what about the leaked GFX benchmarks indicating that the Nexus would have a 5.2 inch QHD screen? Is that just a Moto S benchmark? It is also running Android L which raises some suspicion that it could be the next Nexus. I also wanted to point out that TK tech news has had some really bad information go out in the past. They leaked a Samsung Galaxy Alpha that had some strange golden metallic back, never forgot that lol.

posted on 25 Aug 2014, 16:03

22. salaal (Posts: 108; Member since: 08 Dec 2013)


If it's priced at 400$/32GB I'll surely sell my iPad mini,iPad 2 and my star pro, Lumia 520 For this bae.

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