Nexus 5 to feature nano SIM card slot, Android 4.4 might mandate nano SIM for all phones (nope)
0. phoneArena 30 Sep 2013, 09:06 posted on
We’ve already seen images and specifications for the upcoming new Nexus phone by Google, the Nexus 5, but one tiny little detail was missing…
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1. Topcat488 (Posts: 1207; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Google showing Samsung who the real dictator of the Android OS is...
2. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
lol Google has always been top dog at the Android camp.
4. Topcat488 (Posts: 1207; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Both are chasing Apple customers... The next locked down Note 3's will have to have nano sim cards too.
5. joey_sfb (Posts: 4082; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
You mean Note 4 will have nanoSIM cause Note 3 is microSIM.
I don't think its a priority for phablet.
3. sharks (Posts: 191; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
Looks like it's time to get a micro SIM card adapter so i can use my new nano SIM on the Nexus 5 as well as in my other phones, like the HTC One.
24. ˇಠ_ಠˇ (Posts: 40; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
My nano SIM is vastly superior, as it uses the Hydropizalectric charging system, thus having a far higher carrying capacity in this era.
44. joey_sfb (Posts: 4082; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
What is Hydropizalectric charging system? Google search also has no information on it.
7. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7005; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
All I care to see is the SOFTWARE.
25. imkyle (Posts: 1044; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Same here. My Nexus 4 is still plenty good and fast.
8. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1304; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Probably it just means that Android 4.4 will support nano SIM, the rest is just Victor's missinterpretation.
I bet you that 4.4 supports SIM, micro SIM and nano SIM
10. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
Agreed Android 4.4 will have to support micro SIM or else the majority of all android phones would not be able to upgrade to 4.4. Google would never do that. They want more manufacturers to upgrade as soon as possible.
49. nicknowsky (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Sep 2013)
It 100% will support any sim...this is just BAD information
11. Victor.H (Posts: 522; Member since: 27 May 2011)
I've clearly said it's a "logical assumption", so no real question about that, but I find it interesting they mention it. And Android 4.4 will surely support nano SIM - Android 4.2 already does.
18. tryingHARD (Posts: 64; Member since: 31 Dec 2012)
Is there really a connection between the software and the type of simcard? I think not. I just cut my microsim from my z10 and put it on my wife's ip5. Still working. I think this doesnt have something to do with software support.
41. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Hence, he said google might make it mandatory coz as he mentioned, nano sim support is already there in android. Maybe they want everybody to move forward to newer technologies. Kinda like intel does with ultrabook guidelines.
9. livyatan (Posts: 863; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
What the heck, Victor?
Google's goal is to push android to as widest device base as possible..why would they MANDATE nano SIM?
Android 4.4 will be built to work fluently even on 256mb RAM single core devices, and vast majority of those have old SIM card standards.
42. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
He obviously meant new phones, that come out of box with 4.4.
What i wanna see mandated is a delicious complementary kitkat in every box!
12. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Android - unlike iOS or WP - NEVER EVER FRACKING EVER requires anything hardware related for it to run aside from actual hardware capable enough to run it.
So - no. Android 4.4 or 5.4 or 10.4 will never require anyone to use only a certain type of SIM card.
13. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
And even that's optional based on the poor performance of the vast majority of Android phones!
15. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Poor performance is the result of manufacturers shoving millions of "features" to Android while failing to optimize them properly.
If a bunch of guys can build a custom ROM which eliminates lag and improves battery life - there is no excuse for multi-million dollar corporations.
17. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Ever heard of something called budget and cost issues? Ecery phone can't be high end just like every can can't do 200mph. Rom developers only work with software that's already been programed. All they do is the dirty work by optimizing it.
19. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
If its their $600+ flagship there are no excuses besides poor development.
20. ilia1986 (unregistered)
The same dirty work which the manufacturers should have done in the first place.
26. jove39 (Posts: 1443; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Off topic - experience on custom roms
Galaxy S (vibrant) was terrible with samsung's twiz rom...you know why...bad fs implementation...I flashed voodoo kernel and thing improved...then I tried cm, aokp and miui all performed way better than stock twiz rom.
we should appreciate that devs hack into (poorly/not so good) software/hardware and made them better.
51. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Perhaps they should pick a more appropriate OS? Or better yet, come up with their own OS and ecosystem designed specifically for their hardware?
29. jove39 (Posts: 1443; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Android doesn't lag since 4.x...its way better...there is however, a scenario that causes lag and exist in all os.
First - Have you ever noticed user action slows down when some file system operation is going on in background? In case of android lets say - updating/installing application(s)...or in windows when large file copy operation is going on...compiling an webapp that has like 30k files in it!
Second - When storage is filled close to or upto it's capacity.
On windows ssd provide best IO performance and on smartphones oem haven't tried ssd but motorola has done something good on this...they have formatted data partition on moto x with F2FS...it's controller works like ssd and provide much better performance that traditional ext4 fs.
Anand's review here will help understand -
34. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I think that launcher redraws should also be defined as lag. And launcher redraws are horrible. The only launcher I know that NEVER redraws is Nova with hardwired homescreens enabled. Otherwise it's a mess unless you install the V6 script and run bulletproof launcher. The latter, however, kills your battery.
38. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
It's not Google lagging, it's the skins and gui from OEMs.
I just picked up two N4s on the cheap, and they are pretty quick, even after adding a launcher their still lag less.
21. fistigons (Posts: 264; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
I'm glad giffgaff is now offering nano sims.
22. boosook (Posts: 1235; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Oh, come on... another PA trick to make us click on the article! Of course mandating the use of a given sim card format on android 4.4 just would not make any sense.
23. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Wow! The " ACT " of the devil!!!
If this mandate will implement, it's not worth to buy a new phone except nexus. The previous android phones will only reach the 4.3 version of jb ( mostly the flagship one ). That's bad for consumer.
27. jove39 (Posts: 1443; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Come on...author is just speculating! Take it easy :)
46. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2590; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
All the Moto phones (X, Ultra, Maxx, & Mini) have nano something as well. I believe the G2 however still uses a micro sim. However, if they did implement this they would see a huge backlash from their customer base, larger than when MS went from WP6 to 7 and left those on 6 stranded. The reason I say larger is because android has a larger marketshare than WP and the majority are one phones with standard sim and micro sims. As far as I know, the only phones with nano something are the Motos, the upcoming Nexus 5, and (non android) the iphone 5s & 5c. So nano sims are a small minority of the total mobile landscape.
Plus, this info is coming from the carrier about a phone that hasn't been released yet. Most carriers don't know anything about the phones on their shelves, let alone one they haven't handled yet. My guess is it's BS to get you to upgrade to a newer phone. Carriers are sneaky like that.
28. theaztech (unregistered)
victor really needs to get it togethere.
30. darushah.shah (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Does that mean the current galaxy S4, Note 3 etc wont receive 4.4 update?
31. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
Probably not for a year, but for other reasons, Google has no reason to mandate nano sims, and they won't.
32. darushah.shah (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Lets hope so, as these are the latest flagship device and should be updated to the latest Android OS...
33. trickster_qc (Posts: 83; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)
It is impossible for Google to require that every handset running Android 4.4 uses a nano sim card.
Especially since the announced that 4.4 would be designed to run on older handsets.
It's an assumption that makes no sense.
35. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
"Would be designed" or "rumored to be designed"?
Yes, the android website says:
"It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
But that could easily mean Android for computers, I hope you're right, though.
36. Tuxedo (Posts: 219; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
Electrically, reg/micro/nano SIMs are all the same thing; the physical size has no relationship whatsoever to how the card works.
47. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2590; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
As far as I can tell, the main advantage to smaller & smaller sim cards is more space available on the motherboard. The smaller & thinner the phone, the greater the need for space.
37. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Android doesn't even require a sim card at all. Its ridiculous to think 4.4 will require one yet alone nanosim exclusively.
Poorly written filler disguised as an exclusive article in order to generate ad revenue. Real nice pa -.-
39. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I bet it's a typo from Life:).
Then wildly read into.
No harm, no foul, don't buy it.
40. Professor (Posts: 200; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
That means I cannot sell my Nexus 4 (although I have someone waiting & willing to buy it) or buy a Nexus 5 because my carrier don't have Nano SIMS cards. And since I am not going to change carriers, just to use a Nexus 5 that means I cannot buy a Nexus 5 (if it really uses a Nano SIM slot), no matter how cheap Google decides to sell it.
50. nicknowsky (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Sep 2013)
You can get SIM card adapters just bought a set myself..and you can cut a MicroSIM into nanoSIM very easily google some DIY cut nanoSIM
52. Professor (Posts: 200; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
I hope so because I already cut my Mini-SIM to Micro-SIM size and Nano-SIMs are supposedly thinner.
But it will be the only way I am going to buy a Nano-SIM equip phone. Because I am not changing from my $40 Unlimited plan to another (more expensive company) just to be able to use the Nexus 5.
43. _PHug_ (Posts: 420; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
I don't give an F.
Just show me the specs and the price so I can make my purchase decision.
45. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
How could software dictate something like that when all the cards are the same with the only difference being the amount of plastic surrounding the chip?
48. nicknowsky (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Sep 2013)
This bad reporting...a nanoSIM won't only work with 4.4 any sim will..
53. BobPseudonym (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)
support.google.com slash nexus/answer/3473178 says:
"Before you start using your phone, you may need to insert a micro SIM card. "
N.B. "micro". There was no mention of "nano".