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Nexus 5 to feature nano SIM card slot, Android 4.4 might mandate nano SIM for all phones (nope)

0. phoneArena 30 Sep 2013, 09:06 posted on

We’ve already seen images and specifications for the upcoming new Nexus phone by Google, the Nexus 5, but one tiny little detail was missing…

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posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:11 4

1. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)

Google showing Samsung who the real dictator of the Android OS is...

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:14 14

2. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

lol Google has always been top dog at the Android camp.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:18 3

4. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)

Both are chasing Apple customers... The next locked down Note 3's will have to have nano sim cards too.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:24 8

5. joey_sfb (Posts: 6507; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

You mean Note 4 will have nanoSIM cause Note 3 is microSIM.

I don't think its a priority for phablet.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:14

3. sharks (Posts: 236; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)

Looks like it's time to get a micro SIM card adapter so i can use my new nano SIM on the Nexus 5 as well as in my other phones, like the HTC One.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 11:37

24. ˇಠ_ಠˇ (Posts: 40; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)

My nano SIM is vastly superior, as it uses the Hydropizalectric charging system, thus having a far higher carrying capacity in this era.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 18:41

44. joey_sfb (Posts: 6507; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

What is Hydropizalectric charging system? Google search also has no information on it.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:26 4

7. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

All I care to see is the SOFTWARE.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 12:18

25. imkyle (Posts: 1079; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)

Same here. My Nexus 4 is still plenty good and fast.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:27 4

8. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Probably it just means that Android 4.4 will support nano SIM, the rest is just Victor's missinterpretation.
I bet you that 4.4 supports SIM, micro SIM and nano SIM

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:38 6

10. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)

Agreed Android 4.4 will have to support micro SIM or else the majority of all android phones would not be able to upgrade to 4.4. Google would never do that. They want more manufacturers to upgrade as soon as possible.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 02:01

49. nicknowsky (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Sep 2013)

It 100% will support any sim...this is just BAD information

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:40 6

11. Victor.H (Posts: 742; Member since: 27 May 2011)

I've clearly said it's a "logical assumption", so no real question about that, but I find it interesting they mention it. And Android 4.4 will surely support nano SIM - Android 4.2 already does.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:12

14. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:37 4

18. tryingHARD (Posts: 64; Member since: 31 Dec 2012)

Is there really a connection between the software and the type of simcard? I think not. I just cut my microsim from my z10 and put it on my wife's ip5. Still working. I think this doesnt have something to do with software support.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 17:21

41. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)

Hence, he said google might make it mandatory coz as he mentioned, nano sim support is already there in android. Maybe they want everybody to move forward to newer technologies. Kinda like intel does with ultrabook guidelines.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:37 3

9. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)

What the heck, Victor?
Google's goal is to push android to as widest device base as possible..why would they MANDATE nano SIM?
Android 4.4 will be built to work fluently even on 256mb RAM single core devices, and vast majority of those have old SIM card standards.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 17:22 1

42. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)

He obviously meant new phones, that come out of box with 4.4.
What i wanna see mandated is a delicious complementary kitkat in every box!

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:46 4

12. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Android - unlike iOS or WP - NEVER EVER FRACKING EVER requires anything hardware related for it to run aside from actual hardware capable enough to run it.

So - no. Android 4.4 or 5.4 or 10.4 will never require anyone to use only a certain type of SIM card.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 09:55

13. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)

And even that's optional based on the poor performance of the vast majority of Android phones!

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:19 3

15. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Poor performance is the result of manufacturers shoving millions of "features" to Android while failing to optimize them properly.

If a bunch of guys can build a custom ROM which eliminates lag and improves battery life - there is no excuse for multi-million dollar corporations.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:27

17. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)

Ever heard of something called budget and cost issues? Ecery phone can't be high end just like every can can't do 200mph. Rom developers only work with software that's already been programed. All they do is the dirty work by optimizing it.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:38 3

19. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

If its their $600+ flagship there are no excuses besides poor development.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:41 3

20. ilia1986 (unregistered)

The same dirty work which the manufacturers should have done in the first place.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 12:21

26. jove39 (Posts: 1953; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Off topic - experience on custom roms

Galaxy S (vibrant) was terrible with samsung's twiz rom...you know why...bad fs implementation...I flashed voodoo kernel and thing improved...then I tried cm, aokp and miui all performed way better than stock twiz rom.

we should appreciate that devs hack into (poorly/not so good) software/hardware and made them better.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 07:38

51. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)

Perhaps they should pick a more appropriate OS? Or better yet, come up with their own OS and ecosystem designed specifically for their hardware?

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 10:25 2

16. suneeboy (Posts: 201; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)

My nexus 4 never lags

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 12:35 1

29. jove39 (Posts: 1953; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Android doesn't lag since 4.x...its way better...there is however, a scenario that causes lag and exist in all os.

First - Have you ever noticed user action slows down when some file system operation is going on in background? In case of android lets say - updating/installing application(s)...or in windows when large file copy operation is going on...compiling an webapp that has like 30k files in it!

Second - When storage is filled close to or upto it's capacity.

On windows ssd provide best IO performance and on smartphones oem haven't tried ssd but motorola has done something good on this...they have formatted data partition on moto x with F2FS...it's controller works like ssd and provide much better performance that traditional ext4 fs.

Anand's review here will help understand -


posted on 30 Sep 2013, 13:44

34. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I think that launcher redraws should also be defined as lag. And launcher redraws are horrible. The only launcher I know that NEVER redraws is Nova with hardwired homescreens enabled. Otherwise it's a mess unless you install the V6 script and run bulletproof launcher. The latter, however, kills your battery.

posted on 30 Sep 2013, 16:09

38. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)

It's not Google lagging, it's the skins and gui from OEMs.
I just picked up two N4s on the cheap, and they are pretty quick, even after adding a launcher their still lag less.

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