Next-gen Windows RT tablets to be rocking NVIDIA Tegra 4 processor
0. phoneArena 10 May 2013, 06:18 posted on
Rene Haas, Nvidia’s VP of computing products, also said that “Nvidia is very invested and very committed to Windows RT, and we feel it has a bright future. We feel this [platform] is where things are going...”
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1. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Nvidia will always be eternally inferior to Qualcomm and Samsung Exynos
3. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Thats why Tegra 4 killed the competition on benchmarks, right? Nvidia will always be the underdog, their first SOCs might not be the best but my Tegra 3 phone has excelent performance and little to no lag while trolls like you claim it sucks. Nowadays performance on the various SOCs is more than enough to have a smooth experience wether you go Exynos, Snapdragon or Tegra, they all have plenty of CPU/GPU power.
4. hung2900 (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Don't just judge the power of any NVIDIA SoC from early reference benchmark results
6. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
If what hapenned to Tegra 3 does happen with Tegra 4 that means Tegra 4 will be even faster with time, Tegra 3 was milked through the year, every update my One X with new Nvidia drivers had improved the performance considerably, getting better and better benchmarks and better user experience. The major flaws of Tegra 3 was its GPU and the 45nm process it was made and the single memory channel, making it kind of a power hog and have low performance on Gameloft games, Nvidia always has a trick on their sleeve which is the optimized games and that is why Tegra 3's GPU shined on THD games and wasn't that good outside them. But in Tegra 4 those problems are fixed, or at least i hope.
7. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Lol...wait till you see the Tegra4 production devices..I'm pretty sure you'll gonna ba disappointed
The Tegra4 powered Toshiba wasn't a good sign to begin with....only 28k in antutu? It is supposed to be a whopping 36k, what am I missing here? Lmao
8. hung2900 (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
You know nothing.
First, the major problem of Tegra 3 is IO issue which makes it lag like hell.
Second, THD games are optimized totally for Tegra 3 which NVIDIA did something to avoid lag (reduce heavy effect or something needs heavy rendering), like an obsoleted PS 3 hardware can run all "heavy" games flawlessly. To be clear. my old tf101 with slow Tegra 2 (non NEON) with RR3 graphic app (reducing effect) can run RR3 flawlessly on 1280x800 resolution.
15. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Yes i know nothing, then read this and say that again.
"Memory bandwidth has been the ultimate bottleneck for performance in both Tegra SoCs. Tegra 3 featured a single-channel, 32-bit wide LPDDR2-1066 or DDR3L-1500 (T30), and DDR3-1600 (T33) memory controller. Now let's take today's best HDtablet for gaming, the iPad 2, which has a dual-channel, 32-bit wide (total 64-bit) LPDDR2-1066 memory controller. Even though Tegra 3 supports DDR3, the iPad 2 still gives twice the fill rate, simply because its memory is dual-channel. To support the high-resolution Retina Display, the New iPad uses a quad-channel (total 128-bit wide) LPDDR2-1066 memory controller, giving about four times the fill rate of Tegra T33, which will be found in 1080p tablets. If Tegra 3 is barely ready to support todays 1280 x 800 tablets, it's not even close to supporting the upcoming 1080p tablets."
The IO issue is from ASUS tablets which use slow memory, my One X doesn't suffer from IO issue, and may i remind you i have a Tegra 3 phone and know what its weak points are.
5. hung2900 (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Even the current Android kernel cannot handle the BIG.little architechture at 50% potential, so Exynos shouldn't be counted here.
And we all remember a topic about Windows RT cannot take the advantage of all 4 cores and 4+1 impletation of Tegra 3, right?
10. poopApple (banned) (Posts: 38; Member since: 12 Apr 2013)
one x (tegra 3) was launched 3 months before s3....enough time for R&D for sammy
9. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
I disagree. I have a Surface RT and it does everything I need it to.
11. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
That might be for you, but the majority of the consumers disagree with you. There are couple of problems with Windows RT.
1. The name. Windows RT and Windows 8 confuses a lot of people. Worst part is that some stores call Windows RT "Windows 8 RT" which makes it even more confusing. Not to mention that WinRT and Windows RT is totally different....
2. Price tag. With virtually little apps and a hefty price tag, it failed on arrival. People would consider it if the Surface RT was priced around $199-299 with keyboard included but at the price around the iPad, it wouldn't work out.
3. Surface Pro. Since the Surface RT is expansive already, why wouldn't people want to pay a bit more for a better tablet?
13. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
There are many of us out there that are aware of the differences and are perfectly comfortable with Windows RT. Yes, you can get a Windows 8 tablet for a couple hundred more, but you would have to live with an Atom processor (I wouldn't call that better). The Surface Pro may have an i5, but it is out of most people's price range. As for the apps, I think having a full version of MS Office out of the box is more important than worrying if I can get Candy Crush Saga.
Just because it isn't the most popular kid on the block, doesn't mean that it is useless by any means. Once the store grows a little, we might not even be having this conversation. Als
12. joey_sfb (Posts: 5229; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I don't think Tegra 4 is powerful enough to replace the full windows 8 experience.
I will only buy a minimum Intel Core i5 for windows.
Nvidia can stop dreaming of getting back at Intel for not licensing their x86 license.
14. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
They have to do something, they are locked out of the home console market and that is guaranteed money, they can't make their own SOC for desktops so they are going with ARM on mobiles and trying to do something there. I think Nvidia as a company are a bit cocky, but whatever. What goes around comes around.
17. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
The article clearly says Windows RT and Windows RT isn't the full Windows 8 experience.
16. MC1123 (Posts: 1254; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
who cares about RT! bring this to windows phone instead!