NexPhone - a device that is also your tablet, laptop or PC
0. phoneArena 10 Sep 2012, 15:35 posted on
A concept brewing at a Bay Area start up called NexCrea uses Ubuntu for Android software to round out the intended experience of a one-device-for-all.
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1. cncrim (Posts: 796; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
nice comcept, still couple years away from reality.
25. Pings (Posts: 303; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Years? They could do this now... It's in Beta, but someone has to come out with the hardware.
30. TROLL-ISAHA (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
this should be equipped with:
A15 Exynos Quad-core, running at 3.0Ghz, may-be with PowerVr Rouge with Quad-core graphics, or mali T654 Quad-core, along with 4Gb Ram.......etc.....
44. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
and that will still be weaker then a i3 labtop with window. It all about productivity. And android even with Ubuntu would still be too underpower for real work.
51. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
It seriously doubt that.
In some ways, even the Tegra 3 is comparable to core 2 duo.
Now a 2.5GHz quad core A15 with top of the line rogue GPU and 4g RAM would be from 5-15 times more capable overall.
And if done on 20nm I bet it would actually be even more energy efficient.
It will be a phenomenal piece of tech.
While Intel new generation of core chips will be even more powerful, I assure you that the above specs will be more than fine to run everything you throw at it except for the highest end P.C. games maybe
36. MeoCao (unregistered)
Oh my, I'd like to buy one.
but Ubuntu is CISC so ARM can't handle it while PC CPUs are very power hungry.
We can use Android and ARM, and then we have PadPhone.
48. jove39 (Posts: 1818; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
With Haswell Intel is expecting to drop power usage to 10W from current lowest 17W...ARM chips stay around 2W...lot of catch up Intel has to do on power savings front but better performance will be my choice :)
39. Aeires (unregistered)
If you're brave, you can do this now. Google it and you'll find a lot of videos using the Motorola Atrix (because of the docking capability) with this setup.
43. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I had this idea years ago. Glad to see others besides ASUS incorporating the idea.
2. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Congrats ASUS, you had a great idea. I think all this is a little ahead of the times though. The processor/GPU in our phones isn't powerful enough yet to really run everything.
26. JonBjSig (Posts: 176; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
It's not ahead of the times at all, even the Galaxy Nexus which is almost a year old has better specs than many netbooks, it won't run everything but this is meant to be a cheap alternative for people who need all those options but either can't or don't want to pay for a Desktop PC, laptop, tablet and phone, it's not meant for power users.
53. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I guess that's another way to look at it. I didn't see any specs listed.
3. joseg81 (Posts: 194; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
i would definitely buy something like that. only problem is the tablet and laptop look like they need some work. i'd be afraid my phone would drop off the back of it. other than that i like it. i hope we see it sooner rather than later.
4. smdeezy (Posts: 66; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
I like the idea. Can't wait to see if it becomes reality!
5. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Hopefully they will do better than Motorola...
6. VebbX (Posts: 41; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
I could be made today, but it would be laggy, as previously said, the gpu/cpu (apu) aren't powerful enough yet. You make the screen picture and other functionalists get synced over wifi, and then you'll have induction for charging and magnets to keep the phone in place.
16. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
I have a Galaxy Note and I don't quite agree with what you said there.
52. cheeseaddict (Posts: 49; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
another samsung fanbot who worships it as the best
18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, the Galaxy Note isn't readily available to be attached to a tablet, laptop, and desktop. And I doubt the Note has the power to do all of the tasks the average desktop would do; a tablet, yes; laptop, maybe; desktop, no way. So... Yeah.
11. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
It's a good idea, but its going to need some powerful specs and lots of memory space for everything if it wants to compete with actual computers.
12. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I think it need Windows 8, but not Android.
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
And it still need Windows OS, because it is more popular. ;)
42. MeoCao (unregistered)
Nothing can replace Windows, at least not in near future. But Ubuntu is Linux based so it can take advantage of Android ecosystem, Linux weakest link.
So who knows.
13. tgtftw (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
With the introduction of quadcores and ram getting higher capacities, a device of this nature could be possible by the end of next year at least for the average consumer. Now something to cater to the power users crowd, highly doubtful, at least for a few more years anyway.
15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Whoa... So, we would need full desktop PC specs on our phones in order to fulfill this concept completely. So... Intel i5 processor and 4 or 6 GB RAM I think would be an every day computing standard. And have it enabled to dock into tablet, laptop, and desktop docks.
Intel i5 and 6 GB RAM on a phone... How much battery would we need in order to get 12 hours of use from it? The tablet and laptop docks I'm not so worried about, because those would have an extra battery built into it, and the desktop dock would be connected to an outlet for its power.
20. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
We're getting there. As you can see, the parts ( like processor, RAM, GPU) develop incredibly fast. We now have Quad Core phones with 2GB ram. Next year we will have a Quad Core with 4GB Ram maybe. The GPU will most likely double its power by then as well. Batteries will develop too, We will most likely have 4.000 mAh bats at the same size as one with 2.500 mAh. Be patient
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I don't have any doubt about the proccessor or graphics power, or the memory. By this time next year, we'll probably be expecting quad A-15s like the Exynos 5; and if the dual-core Exynos 5 is supposed to run circles around the current quad Exynos, the quad Exynos 5 should be something to be reckoned with. That, along with the series 6 PowerVR graphics that are being developed right now, pushing out the neccessary power shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Just... You would need a huge battery to make that all run on a phone, and make it last about 12 hours. And you can't make it too thick either, or else people will complain. If, by this time next year, we have;
Quad Exynos 5
PowerVR 6 Series
4 GB RAM
5,000 mAh batteries
All in a sub-10mm shell
Then, I don't even know what. Peoples minds will explode I guess.
31. TROLL-ISAHA (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
OMG if its those specs above it would be a over kill. but it will never be. cause its a dream.
QE 5 with Quad-core running at 3.0Ghz
PVR6 with Quad-core graphics, over-clocked to 567Ghz
33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
It wouldn't be overkill, because those specs are also meant to run a desktop. For something that is supposed to be just a phone, yes, way overkill. But for this concept, it seems it would be pretty standard.
40. Aeires (unregistered)
Doesn't work that way from what I've seen. While using it as a phone, Android runs. When docked, Ubuntu automatically takes over. It might even charge your phone battery when it's docked.
It's actually a deceptive little device, runs like a phone but has a wealth of capability packed in it, just waiting for the right moment to be used.
41. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 162; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
i5 in a phone is unrealistic as of now, a dual core Intel Atom on the other is a possibility. Dual Core Atoms are powerful enough to power a laptop and computer, and should have no problem powering Tablets and Phones. A large battery capacity shouldn't really matter as the tablet and the laptop can have there own battery and the computer is plugged into an outlet. I believe that 2,500 mAh to 3,500 mAh powered battery is enough. 2 GB of ram should be enough as again tablets, laptops, and the computer could have there own storage. A 4-core SGX543MP4+ (GPU in PSVITA) could be the GPU of choice for the Nex Phone. Also in my opinion the Phone should be running WP8 since Windows is a software already found on laptops and desktops And it could be a dual-boot system so when the Phone is connected to the laptop, computer, or tablet it could switch to Windows 8 pro. And if you believe the Dual core Intel Atom processor isn't powerful enough the other devices could have there own processors.
5 inch screen with 1920 x 1080 OLED display
21 MP camera with the newest PureView technology
2.0 MP front facing camera with 720P video chat
17. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
HOLY s**t THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I PREDICTED/WANTED TO DO WHEN I SAW THE ORIGINAL MOTOROLA LAPDOCK!
Sorry for the caps lock eye rape.
21. BattleBrat (Posts: 1432; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I have the RAZR and a Lapdock, it wasn't quite up to me expectations, THIS however IS!
19. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I really like the look of the tablet with. with the chin sorta like that htc doodad.
I would be seriously interested at the right pricepoint.
22. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I'm also wondering, would the phone its self have one set of specs then the tablet/laptop/pc have more components to kind of beef of the power so to speak?
28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
No, the phone would have all of the hardware components for the tablet/laptop/desktop. At most, they would just add a battery to the tablet and laptop as an extension to the phones battery. The desktop of course would be connected to an outlet though.
32. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
I think the smartphone will be the Brain of the devices. The docs will only have batteries. My bet that is the sum will be at around 10.000-12.000 mAh put together.
47. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I guess its just a matter of time before mobile is right on track with a real computer, I mean, my droid 3 is technically more powerful than the netbook i used to root it, but I guess the hardware specs on the nexphone would have to be real serious to make me think about ditching my macbook.
23. BattleBrat (Posts: 1432; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
This is the Future my friends, one computer for everything. Everywhere you go you take it with you.
I hope the phone companies get together and make a standard that they all agree to so that you can just go to a hotel room plug it in and BAM, your full computer!
29. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
Very nice indeed, but if I'm to buy this phone in the future, backing up the data will be important as unfortunate situations may occur such as losing or damaging the phone. Then you are left stranded- all your work, contacts and your life, gone as you would rely on this gadget for everything your life revolves around.
I really do not like the idea of relying on one piece of hardware, that is one of the reasons why cloud services and physical data storage options still exist. Currently, I back important files on Gmail, phone and external hard drive. It's tedious but yeah...
35. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Kind of, same idea, it just goes further into computing.
37. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I don't know about this. It's going to need more processing power than any other phone out there, and then you have to buy all the peripherals. No matter what they do, even a cheap laptop should beat this in terms of performance. A $400 or so laptop should have more/faster RAM, more/faster storage, and more processing power than just about any phone. Then there's the issue of "I hate Unity." This is going to need to be able to run other Linux distros before I consider going for such a thing.
I want this to be the future. While I think it's technically possible, it's not practical at this time. Specs aren't going to be in line with real computers. I seriously doubt that the price point will be low enough to make it a good option.
38. Aeires (unregistered)
I was researching this just yesterday and hoping to see some activity, thanks for the article. When this phone does come out, it will be high on my list (next to the Padfone) because it offers the ability to dock with a monitor. There are a ton of times I need to get something done but don't feel like booting up a computer, this solves that easily.
Ubuntu and Android, powerful match to really take advantage of all that hardware goodness.
56. aw9463 (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
no instead of using android they should consider partnering with Canonical to use the upcoming Ubuntu Phone OS
46. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
We droid fans are not happy with what we get.......
Come on guyz it's just a first step don't expect more from it but it's the future........
Am happy that ubuntu and android joined to replace laptops with tablets.........
I hope ubuntu will perform well ....cuz it can run in low end devices than windows does......
49. rizky_p (Posts: 19; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
NexPhone sound like a Sony Phone attached to NEX Series camera from Sony. Should look similar to Galaxy Camera :)
50. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its the Asus Padphone taken to the next logical step.. compatibility with more than just a tablet.
54. shubhameroit123 (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
concept is good but its not practicle because there are other products in the market that can easily replace them and os is not so good..
55. aw9463 (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
This would definately be a good direction for the future of consumer electronics.
if NEX would actually partner with Canonical to use the Up coming Ubuntu Phone which aims to fit devices like this Nex and Canonical could change the way Many people communicate and compute