New iPhone to come with a 3.95-inch 640x1136-pixel screen, new connectors
0. phoneArena 22 May 2012, 07:36 posted on
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44. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
the iHerd waited 5 years and all they got is a 3.95" screen... lol!
45. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It's what we can do with that 3.95" screen that makes all the difference.
47. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Exactly... Every big screen android device I've tried, I took back. They just don't stack up to the iPhones overall package.
49. tuminatr (Posts: 725; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
Depends on what you want your phone to do; I have one of each (work and personal) and prefer my droid. It’s like BK I can have it my way and email and calendar are better on the android
55. iphoneisthebest79 (Posts: 70; Member since: 23 May 2012)
who search a bigger screen, go for tablet ....
2. mobilefuture (Posts: 213; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
The price is still gonna be sky-high for other countries cuz we dont have contracts where i live :(
41. messiah (Posts: 434; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
Bwahahah.... they just couldn't submit to the demand and go the distance on a 4" screen..... it would have proved the competition was always ahead if the curve as far as screen size is concerned
59. ChollaAnythingApple (Posts: 9; Member since: 14 Apr 2011)
gotta pay the cost to live the life.
4. Tjey007 (Posts: 86; Member since: 22 May 2012)
if this happens then i guess my upcoming GS3 will win th race....:)
38. kalandershihab (Posts: 57; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
galaxy s3 is a brick! most of them wont like such a big screen for their daily use. 4.3 is the perfect size!
39. Tjey007 (Posts: 86; Member since: 22 May 2012)
compare to GS2 it is not that big unlike other handset...easy too hold and operate...as far as i have seen the size is OK.
5. sorcio46 (Posts: 420; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
They will NEVER change aspect ratio and resolution, next rumor !
10. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
why wouldnt they change resolution if they are going to increase screen size?
27. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Screen aspect ratio probably will not change,if it does and the render above is an accurate representation of what the new iphone looks like than it looks like apple will be making its iphone look very similar to current top android phones.
6. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
This is funny considering the fact that apple would neveer leave the 3:2 aspect ratio
9. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)
exactly, I won't believe any of these rumors about a stretch screen until i see it.
12. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I don't believe anyones ideas of the screen size change. we all know how stingy apple is making up dumb excuses to keep it the same size (resolution may change) i mean seriously the use the phone with just your thumb idea? i can type with one hand using only my thumb perfectly on my e4gt and my infuse (use my e4gt for games, browsing etc)
7. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I'm not quite sure how I feel about this one. I definitely want a bigger screen and I think most iPhone users are with me on that one. And from that mock up, it looks like the iPhone would remain the same size itself, which is definitely nice because it fits so well in my hand. But I still have to go back to the Galaxy S, which if I'm not mistaken is a larger handset. That phone was the first 4" screened phone that I thought was dead on physically. It was larger deminsion wise (from what I remember), but was still incredibly comfortable in hand. Why not make a slightly larger phone and kick the resolution up a bit more?
I just don't think Apple can get away with a slight upgrade this year...even if the screen is larger. The iPhone 4S is a fantastic phone under the hood, but even I'll admit that these Android manufacturers are throwing in everything they've got to compete with Apple. And the results have been fantastic, in my opinion. Apple rode on its name with the iPhone 4S...and like I said...fantastic phone, but just not flashy as some others. This iPhone needs to be a jaw dropper if Apple wants to continue to compete and draw our attention. But I trust they understand and know that. But it's not just the hardware...the software has to be updated too. I'm a simple guy and I love how basic the layout of iOS is. But I'm not everyone and people want their phones to look cooler.
I think Apple will do well with this release. Probably the most hyped phone Apple has released since...the iPhone 4? or 3G...
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
We agree on many points about the necessity of a big change for the i5 to stay competitive. Small things wont cut it this time around. It needs to go big or stay home.
Honestly, IF its a big change, it will be the most hyped iphone since probably the first one. If its not, its not going to be hyped much at all other than to the crazed fanboy crowd. Noobs that want a smaller, low hassle set will still gravitate towards it, but with so much coming out of WP7 trying to take a piece of that exact pie, its going to spread things a little more thin.
Really, anything less than 4 inches is going to be a complete fail. It really needs to be over 4 inches, but 4 is the minimum. Bezels are much smaller than they used to be, and there is no reason they cant go above 4 without barely changing the size of the set.
The SGS1 and the i4 are nearly the same size. The SGS1 is just a hair bigger, but its also much thinner and lighter, so it feels great in the hand.
The average android handset is 4.3 and above at this point... with a heavy push closer to 4.5 now. With the bulk of android sales being towards the high end, and the bulk of the high end being 4.3 to 5xx, that shows that many if not most people want more screen. WP7 is following the same path, and BB-10 touch screens look to be doing the same.
iOS is in need of a facelift, but honestly what can they do at this point that is going to be spectacularly new that isnt going to be just a copied hodge podge of other OS's at this point? They need the change, but the more it changes, the more likely its going to be using similar ideals to android, and the more similar to android it becomes, the reason for buying it drops. Why buy a small phone with "android on safety rails", when ICS devices are top notch now? If it were android on safety rails vs android 1.6, yea, i could see it.. but that old bugged android OS is a thing of the past.
31. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I definitely agree that 4" is the bare minimum, although I'm oddly cautious about going to 4.5in screens. I just remember the first time I held and Evo and thought, there is no way I'd carry this thing around. I still feel that way. But I think far more than screen size itself is the phone design overall. Like you said, you can get a 4.3" screen and still have a relatively comfortable phone to hold. Bezel is something that I rarely think about, but it does have a big impact on the design of the phone. I just don't think the iPhone needs as much framing as it has had in the past 5 versions.
And I'll agree with you to a certain extent about iOS. I don't think we've explored every kind of user interface just yet, although I'm sure people will call out similarities. But I trust that Apple has enough talent that they can think of something good. Still, I'm shocked they still haven't updated the look of the whole thing. Speaking to the audience they are marketing to, they may not need to...but still.
But releasing a phone once a year, you have to give it everything you have. The iPhone 4 was epic and the phone held up extremely well the entire year. The iPhone 4S had great specs, but it wasn't long before other manufacturers were producing...well...most interesting phones. I stand by my thought of a phone lives and dies by the apps that are available to it...but still. You want your phone to look and feel good. I guess we shall see...
32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the apps definitely make a difference, but that huge divide between iOS apps and everyone else is pretty much gone. With android specs going higher, the apps have been getting tremendously better, so what was once a clear advantage for iOS is no longer. Once more WP7/8 apps start to mature its going to be a horse race for nicest apps.
Well, here's to hoping they bring it. Im not a fan of Apple as a company, but I am a fan of high competition because thats better for everyone.
48. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
And u said all that to say what exactly? People r gonna buy what they want to buy, regardless of the slander they hear. Those that prefer iPhones r gonna buy iPhones, those who prefer android r gonna buy android. Both platforms r very good, but cater to mostly different crowds. Not everyone wants to root, and customize their interface all day, not everyone wants a closed Eco system, and iTunes, but millions of buyers want both evidently cuz both r the cream of the tech crop. And I said all that to say what? Exactly...
56. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its called having a conversation. you should try it.
8. mercorp (Posts: 994; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
Why not give us a 5.6,or even a 6 inch screen on the next iphone?
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
14. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
you dumb ass! why not just buy an ipad!!
50. reagannism (Posts: 9; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
you like a biker who wants to buy the latest yet fastest bike but wishing it could be as big as a car inside to fit many people yet still called "bike". And has air-conditioners, too.
15. frydaexiii (Posts: 1403; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
And in the end, we'll see another 3.5 incher...
To prevent app fragmentation, the only thing they can do is either keep the same 3.5 inch retina, or extend the screen without changing the pixels, thus forgoing the retina moniker, or perhaps Apple will have double standards again and still call it "retina" even with the decreased DPI just like they did with the new iPad
19. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
your right man, this is a tough one for the Iphone and Im sorry to say it but if they cant increase without any other side problems then its going to be a long year and half for apple, with all the Android competition out there...but lets not worry right now because WE DONT KNOW what apple is going to do and they might actually pull this one off and find away around the fragmentation problems...
16. strikercho (banned) (Posts: 156; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
3.5" is just fine for a phone and indeed the best size to use it effectively with a single hand. It is a smartPHONE, after all. If you need biggger - go for an iPad. I guess that soon there will be a new device. Basically iPhone should stay a phone. I and I welcome this. It is ridiculous to see a girl with a coffee tray like a Galaxy and trying to talk on it.
20. tedkord (Posts: 7364; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Absolutely! You believe as I do, that we all have the right to let Steve jobs make up our minds for us!
Sorry, but I think you're in the minority. Most iPhone users I know want a bigger screen. They don't want 5 inches, but they'd like about 4. Now, if Apple does what was shown, increase only one axis, the overall phone could remain the same size. But, I don't see them changing the aspect ratio, so probably not.
21. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
i agree with the galaxy being WAYY TOO BIG but there is most definitely a way to increase the size and still be comfortable! A four inch phone would be pretty much perfect for comfortablitly as well as watching vids and playing games on... so while the 3.5 in is OK for just being a "phone" there are wayy to many other areas that need to be filled in without over doing them.... Thats why if apple can pull off the 4 incher it will be a glorious day for them no doubt....
43. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9848; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You do know there's more than one Galaxy right? By you saying coffee tray, I'm assuming you're talking about the Galaxy Note with the beautiful 5.3" screen. It is big, but you eventually get used to it. Anything under 4.3 is too small for me.
17. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Man, by the way this article sounds, iphone is kind of stuck as to what its going to do... they cant play it safe and continue with that small screen but also dont want any other problems like framentation problems if they were to expand it to 4 inches! But again this is probably what "THIS" article in particular is coming about...dont know for sure what apple is going to bring but im pretty sure they're not unaware of what is expected to stay in the competition...
22. jeroome86 (Posts: 123; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
They couldn't do a bigger screen with I pad 2 resolution? Just asking?
23. coy2013 (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Lmao why not just add the extra .05 inch of screen??
Oh wait thats right apple would probably over charge you of that much screen
28. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
lol while being sarcastic, this is probably true, Apple is a bit pricey... :( dont want to start nothing but even the galaxy S3 is the same price as the IPHONE 4s 32gb,64gb if you get it on ebay and amazon and the S3 just came out!! so just imagine the iphone 5 with a larger display! They might just try and charge you more money, wich would be, in my opinion, lame :(
24. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
16x9 ... this is interesting.
If Apple had their way, I think they would want to keep the 3:2 ratio.
However, this may be a case of the display manufactures. Everything else is 16:9: TVs, monitors, other phones, other tablets. The display manufacturers could be telling Apple: 1. We can build 16:9 cheaper. 2. We are only going to offer you 16:9.
As far as applications. apps, could still be okay. The apps could just get centered leaving the edges black, leaving about a 1/4 inch on either side; folks will probably barely notice at these dimensions. The next iteration of the application could then account for the extra room. I don't see a huge rush for app developers to change their applications.
25. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Regardless of if they change the screen size and aspect ratio, Apple is going to come up with some feature that is cool and makes a good commercial but no one ever uses (facetime & siri) and call it the best iphone ever and will sell like crazy. That is what happens every time. Look at the 4s. Apple is a marketing genius.
29. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
If Apple releases the i5 with less than a 4 inch screen size, my prediction is that you will see a slowing of Apple's smartphone market share growth. And that would be an opening for MS.
30. shamataa (Posts: 210; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
It really does not matter what size of the srceen it will be b/c the SGS3 is a better phone than that small ass phone even if they do incearse to whatever screen.
33. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Hmmm... if this will be the case, has it occured to anyone that Apple will be actually removing physical Home button? It would use extra 176 pixels, which will also be backward compatible with older apps and give extra space for new apps and 16:9 video content...
We had a rumor (with photos) about physical home button for iPhone 5 but it's very old now and it could easily be wrong.
So, more like Galaxy Nexus/ICS - virtual Home button for older apps.
How's that sound?
34. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
The other scenario that I have been mentioning before is 1152x768 resolution, to keep 3:2 ratio and 329 PPI on a 4-incher.
35. harpdogg (Posts: 18; Member since: 17 May 2012)
We all know no matter how big the screen is or the resolution of it, every tech blog is going to praise the phone as if they cant believe no other phone manufactures thought to do it. a sub HD display will still be consider the greatest thing since slice bread, because of the PPi
36. Mube1 (Posts: 153; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
4 to 4.3 shud b perfect with hd resoultion other wise nt so eye catching:-)
37. Mube1 (Posts: 153; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
4 to 4.3 shud b perfect with hd resoultion other wise nt so eye catching:-)
40. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
"This elongated screen will allow Apple to add one more row of icons, so we have not four, but five of them." I've never seen so much excitement over an OS because of their ability to add icons to its app launcher. Let's hope Samsung, LG, and/or Sharp don't dissapoint when they build this screen.
42. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9848; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Still not a HD display (1280x720) so they're already behind lol.
51. reagannism (Posts: 9; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
Rumors about iphone 5 spread around.. some could be true while some could be wrong. The fact we know for sure is :
1. iphone 5 will be made by Apple
2. it will be more expensive than iphone 4S
3. it will be using iOS
Additional (this is IMO lol) :
1. it will be a "bit" overpriced, as usual (if you know what I mean)
1. the unsubsidized 32 GB version will be more expensive than the cheapest macbook air, perhaps (come on.. in my country iphone 4S 64 GB is around 1100$.. crap)
53. BattleBrat (Posts: 1271; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Yes, they changed the ratio! Just as the apple people predicted..
54. TechDork (Posts: 262; Member since: 10 May 2010)
Their gonna make the screen longer? That's stupid.
57. jdfieweger (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 May 2012)
It's amazing to see all kinds of people that are so against one type of OS. Having used every OS out there they all have good and bad qualities. I think it would be smart for apple to have a larger screen because it might actually pull people from android who are still on the fence with their choice but they really don't need a bigger screen. Apple is doing just fine with the 3.5in display. I think where a company like Samsung goes wrong is with their commercials. Anytime you put your competition in your commercials you've already lost. There is a reason why apple stopped those Mac vs pc commercials. Just stick to making good quality phones and let that speak for itself. When you compare people to sheep it's not gonna make people leave apple for your company when there are more manufacturers that make android phones. Cut those stupid commercials
58. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
it is about balance, and a 4in phone is just enough to say "look whats new and better about the iphone" they will be able to say "now you can watch movies and play games with a broader view, and you can do so without leaving your comfort zone!" (which is the comfort of HOLDING the phone for awhile!) This i believe would get the users that are looking for something new in the iphone 5 but dont want to leave their comfort zone too much. It will satisfy the users that want a larger screen overall, and will ALSO even draw SOME android users that are already acustomed to 4inches and more!! if you do 4.3 it will be doing too much and will knock off the balance, most will shy away because its a BIG leap coming from a small 3.5 inches...The reason why it wont draw majority of android users is simply because of the OS android is alot less restricted and alot more customizable, and therfor IOS will have a HARD time convincing them otherwise... So All this too say a 4 inch upgrade is more of a necessity than a regular o