New iPad charges just the way it should, clarifies Apple
0. phoneArena 28 Mar 2012, 09:33 posted on
Apple has addressed some of the recent concerns revolving around the battery inside of the new iPad. Basically, the misleading information from the battery indicator is a feature...
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1. android_hitman (unregistered)
you're charging it WRONG!
4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4808; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
C'mon people, you were just charging it WRONG. You know Apple is never wrong. Apple makes PERFECT magical devices. The only thing more magical than Apple is Puff the Magic Dragon!
Geez when are people ever going to learn! lol
20. darkkjedii (Posts: 19777; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Nope they're not wrong, and neither is android. Apples only wrong to the idiots who don't like the way they do things.
21. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4808; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Umm if you need someone to tell you, I was joking. I thought the "Puff the Magic Dragon" reference would have tipped you off! lol
It's really not that big of an issue to get so bent out of shape! Remember the dark side is really NOT the good side. Come back to the side of the FORCE! You will be happier.
27. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
If you go back and read the original article that brought up the issue, the writer said that it was a common issue found in android devices as well.
I don't know if you guys are being purposely being stupid and ignoring information to be a better hater, or if you guys are legitimately confused.
29. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
just about all devices stop charging once its full, let it drop down, and then recharge it. Some android phones go down to almost 90% before it starts juicing back up. It was a feature added in 2.2 or 2.3 to protect the battery. So thats not a big deal.
But there is something wrong with the picture. Since when does it take an hour to charge 5%? or even 10%? consumer reports needs to do an accurate battery test to see how true Apple's statments may or may not be.
30. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
yeah but if you read the article and 95% of the comments, the main issue isn't how long it takes it to charge 5%, it's simply the fact that it does it to begin with.
As for the iPad taking an hour to go from 95% to 100%, I personally don't think it matters. If the goal was to reduce charging when full, wouldn't it be better to have it charge slowly form 95% to 100% than have it do so quickly? But regardless, consumer reports can look further into this, but as long as you get the promised 9-10 hrs of use at around 95%, its really inconsequential.
35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
In the off chance that there is any truth to it slowing down for the final 10%, there would have to be resistors of some type in the device. I dont really know of any "smart resistors" that only click on as needed. Its kind of a there or not situation. And if there were, they would cause some heat which would just exacerbate the already existing heat problem.
But I agree, who cares what it says as long as your battery life is fine.
Its not a bug, its a feature!
10. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
No your charging it right. It is acctually a very smart feature. This way you can leave ur phone pluged in without worrying about killing your battery.
2. zheking (Posts: 28; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Is the not charging while use still an issue that's my deal breaker
17. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
No, it charges while in use no problem. In fact better than my Note.
23. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Why is it better than your note? Just wanderin...
26. SleepingOz (unregistered)
I doubt he even has a Note, he's just trolling.
34. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I love my note but it drains faster than charging during heavy usage. For example, when viewing movies via mhl hdmi adapter, it will continuously drain. Its easy to call one a troll without actual experience or technical knowledge.
3. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
batteries have been doing this for years.. wow so apple says something and its fact yet HTC and other comapnie have been doing this for awhile now
11. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
It's true. Samsung, HTC, LG, well let's just say almost all mobile devices have something similarly designed. Even batteries for your RC cars back in the day when those were cool.
6. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Yeah the only difference is my Nexus does exactly what's described in this article with the exception that I don't have to charge for an additional hour to reach 100%...
How does this change anything? We get that it starts to discharge when it hits 100% but to take a whole extra hour sounds like something altogether different.
But then again... there's a reason I don't get paid six figures to work at Apple. What do I know.
7. thnkthru3 (Posts: 73; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
You know BS when you see it....that"s what you know!:-)
12. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
That's exactly what the article is saying, you don't have to charge it a whole extra hour to be at 100%.
24. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
I've read on the XDA forums about battery issues for Android phones that you have to leave the phone in another hour after it reaches 100% to be fully charged, because it trickle charges the rest of the way. Then you can unplug it so that the battery.stats can be properly generated.
"1.2- Calibrating the battery
Then, you should fully charge your battery. Not plug it off when the led turns green, but when Current Widget stops reporting a charge (it slowly decreases). You will see that it takes sometimes more than 1 hour after the green led, to fully charge your battery. If your phone is rooted, delete the file ‘data\system\batterystats.bin’ with a file explorer to reset your battery calibration, and reboot."
8. sheepygalaxy (Posts: 68; Member since: 10 Mar 2012)
why o why cant apple just admit when they have messed up it always the same old story its your fault not apples shame on u
28. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Apple is not saying it's any one's fault. All their saying was that the battery charging wasn't accidental, but more for the people who always leave their devices charging and never take them out. It's the android fanboys that are putting a negative twist on this whole thing so don't be fooled. Also, Apple is not the only one that does this with their battery.
Other smartphones and tablets also do this with their battery. But the problem is that everyone WANTS something to be wrong with the iPad and Apple products. If you read the comments in the link, you'll see that no one even wants to know or cares what those other smartphones and tablets are.
9. akita256 (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)
Maybe it's me:
“That circuitry is designed so you can keep your device plugged in as long as you would like,” Apple VP Michael Tchao told AllThingsD today.
".............it is not a good thing having a battery charged to the maximum for prolonged periods of time as it may reduce its lifespan".
Do these sentences seem to be in conflict? All of you wiser people out there, do let me know!
13. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its you. The thing is apple way of charging the device allows for you to keep your phone plugged in for long periods of time without affecting lifespan because it stops charging at 100 percent and continues at 95 percent .
15. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
It can be if you dont understand the circuitry which this sentence explains
"the circuitry allows it to start discharging once the battery reaches its full capacity. Once the battery level reaches about 95% or so, the charging process continues"
Even though your battery will display 100% and that it is still charging it's really not
16. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Yes it makes perfect sense. It's true, keeping your battery on a constant charge of 100% will shorten its lifespan. Basically, the phone stops charging once at full charge - 100%. If the phone is still plugged in, and the battery drops down to 95% it will start charging again till reaching 100%. Hence, giving you the ability to keep your phone plugged in as long as you would like.
14. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Are peiple really trying to spin this to a negative its a reasonable explanation.
18. zothen (Posts: 14; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
The point being missed here is whether or not there was a change in behavior compared to iPad 1 and 2? If so, are iPad 1 and 2 doing things wrong (if Apple states the iPad 3 method is correct)? If not, why is this being brought up now in the first place?
25. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
Also called it!
"You're doing it wrong stupid, it works just how it should!" - Apple
31. qxavierus (Posts: 47; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
RE: "...start discharging once the battery reaches its full capacity..."
Why does it discharge at all? My PC laptop is using the power from the charger when it's connected, and does not discharge the battery once it's charged. All phones should continue to draw power from the chargers once they charge the battery. I know that this means vampire power, but drawing constantly a small amount of power, should be equal to the charge/discharge cycles. Because when charging the battery it'll draw power for the electronics plus the needed power to charge the battery. Not to mention the energy lost when charging the battery. And this will save the battery, which is an expensive part, and producing it does far more damage to the environment than the small power drain necessary for the phone sleep mode.
32. downphoenix (Posts: 3155; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Its because a battery is more or less a muscle. In order to get the most out of it, it needs to flex. If its at 100% and isnt discharging its not flexing, therefore limiting the lifespan of it over time as its not gettign to flex itself.