New details of the next-gen Apple Watch emerge
6. GreenMan (Posts: 928; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)
Judging by your Avatar's Pic... Your body is sure as hell ready for it, mate!
P.S Meanwhile, my trusty old radar has detected an iPhan in close proximity... Who could it possibly be...???
Anyhow, last but not the least... "G'Day!!!"
22. lyndon420 (Posts: 3868; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Careful...that hole is intended to be used as an exit orifice only.
2. GreenMan (Posts: 928; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)
Why almost all smartwatches look like something only a kindergarten kid would wear is beyond my wildest of imaginations...
I'm more of a Rolex type of man, but still... Why can't they give it a darn metallic band or something? Make is more 'masculine', ya know?
No, I'm not a sexist... And besides, I don't think there would be any girl(s) here on P.A who would get offended by my comment here...!
Only gents tend to be geeks, you know!!!
3. NexusX (Posts: 482; Member since: 16 May 2013)
because no one gives a shiit about what you like.
the apple watch is made to appeal to both males and females
5. GreenMan (Posts: 928; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)
Well NexusX, Rolex does give a... Ahem... Number Two... about what I like...!
Don't be so negative, lad...
Wish Rolex start Rolling out Smartwatches...!!! BTW, That'd be a REALLY cold day in Hell, now wouldn't it?!!
14. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
More like, made to appeal to people who have money to waste on useless tech products...lol
20. lyndon420 (Posts: 3868; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
And yet males / females don't want it. Go figure.
31. sgodsell (Posts: 3247; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Yes, of course the Apple watch is made for both sexes, especially since it has multiple sizes. However, it still doesn't change the fact that Apple only has one square style, and that is it. Oh, you want a soft 42mm Aluminum sport watch for $399. Or do you want the same 42mm size Apple watch with stainless steel for $599 (As if the same a stainless steel case is worth another $200).
Apple, and clearly you (NexusX) think what Apple has made will appeal to the masses. Clearly, you are Wrong.
33. NexusX (Posts: 482; Member since: 16 May 2013)
what are you? a delusional 16 year old?
the apple watch has captured 50% of marketshare in 2015
4. willard12 (Posts: 1530; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
My guess would be that many smartwatches, in order to serve a purpose, have physical fitness applications for run tracking, heart rate, biking distance etc. I don't see a lot of people running on a treadmill with an Omega.
However, I have seen brands like Martian and Fossil come out with some hybrid watches that have a traditional look.
13. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Have you seen the Gear S2 Platinum and Rose Gold?
21. Unordinary (Posts: 1181; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
I've seen it take 37 seconds to load a question after asking the assistant lol, if that's what you're asking
26. lyndon420 (Posts: 3868; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Nothing is more manly than a mickey mouse watch face :)
8. nctx77 (Posts: 1708; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
This is good news. That means I don't have to worry about replacing my current stainless. I will just update it with new bands(from Amazon). Also, it will be in Apple's best interest to keep the current sport around and drop the price.
9. darkoman4 (Posts: 159; Member since: 30 May 2014)
Doesn't current Apple Watch already have a built in WiFi?
16. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Yes. But what good is wifi on a watch?
I ahve so far owned 3 gear devices that had wifi and there is no use for it.
Here is why...Like many smart devices, it is tied to your phone. Using WiFi would simply lower battery usage.
Think about it this way and its so simple. Most fo the time you are gong to have your phoen with you. Unless your wearable if specifically for fitness where wifi isn't needed, your watch will always be paired with your phone via Bluetooth.
At least with the Gear S and S2 as I know you know and are aware, you can remotely connect to your device, providing they are on the same WIFI network. But it's not a benefiticial solution unless you lay it down and need to use the Find feature.
Your watch is pulling data by being tethered to your phone. If your device is on WiFi, what constant do you want to pull that woudl be so beneficial that your phone woudlnt have already? What about when you're on the road?
WiFi provides no benefit on any of these because, you can't use it to download apps directly tot he device, you can't download music or any file for that matter. No even wallpapers. All you will get is like RSS feeds and news. Again, my phone does this this isn't beneficial.
Now if the device had 3G, you wont even need WIFI. So at the times you aren't connected to your phone via BT, 3G will kick in and keep you connected for calls and texts.
Just liek with your phones, radios waste power because the chop has to always be on in case it needs to send or receive data. But I think what they need to figure out is, how to make sucg device shut off radios thaht aren't being used...for example. Most watches are constantly connected to your phone via BT. If your watch isn't receiving any info, why does it still need to b connected? Your watch is mostly getting "push" notifications from your phone. So, why not force the connection and have the phone activated the BT connection only when needed and when it isn't the BT is simply off?
Other than when out of BT range, wifi serves no purpose on a smartwatch until you can directly update or install apps via the internet.
23. darkoman4 (Posts: 159; Member since: 30 May 2014)
I understand that, but the article says the second gen will have WiFi built in, and I thought current gen already has that. I own Moto 360 and Apple Watch and used wifi a couple of times with Moto 360 when I forgot my android and the restaurant I was in had an open WiFi. I was able to send and receive a few messages.
Good thing also is if you leave your phone on charger in some other room and have a bigger house. Your notifications reach you even in a basement where for example I work and have my little lab.
10. darkkjedii (Posts: 19785; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
My next Apple Watch will be next year, and unless I find a killer deal on Craigslist, my next iPad will be next year too. An iPhone 7+ is mos def on the agenda however.
11. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
To the PA writer, you have to categorize wear-ables based on function, just like we do phones.
We have flip phones, dumb-phones, feature phones and smartphones.
The Apple Watch likely had no impact on Fitbit sales, because they are nto the same type of device.
The Fitbit is a fitness band. The Apple Watch is a "smartwatch" that has some fitness features, which is where the Gear S models would fall as well. While Samsung's own Gear Fit is strictly a fitness band, much like the Microsoft Band is.
As far as sales, Apple and Samsung are having the same problem. It's call a bar of entry. Their s**t costs too much. I am just begin frank. Even though I did buy the original Gear, the Gear S and Gear S2, their price point is too high for typical users.
if all you want is a device to track workouts, you don't need a device that costs $300-10,000.
Just like if you only need a car for short trips to work and to the store, you aren't going to go out an buy a $100,000 sports car, though some people do. Just like "some" people my buy expensive options in any category even if they don't need it. But there are always exceptions, but they are not the rule nor the majority.
Also, many first generation products certainly aren't perfect by any OEM. However, if YOUR 1st generation product is 2 or 3 years behind someone else when it comes out, than it shouldn't be equal to a first generation product by a competitor that had it that long ago.
This is where the Apple Watch falls. Though it is a very nice device, and it took them so long to bring ir out; other OEM's have already released at least 2 generation products. Apple already got to see what Samsung did with the original Gear. So why would they release a device that in many ways does less? Plus the Gear S was out already too, it seems Apple would have matches most of its features.
After all, with all that money how hard is it for them to have a device with 3G,UV,IP67 certification, an accurate heart rate monitor (which they stole)WiFi, BT, a bigger battery and maybe a couple extra things, liek the gimmicky useless features it has now.
But at least have the staple. How can you come 2 years later, offer less, try to charge more and expect people to buy it. 8.8M shipped and yet how many people you see with them? Outside of Apple employees, I finally seen 2 people. But they work in my office. I haven't seen one person on the street with one.
When I go to XSport, I see Fitbits everywhere. I also see some cheap knockoffs which are sold right in the Xsport locations.
If they treat this device, like they do their phone and tablet, with measly pointless speed bumps, then what is the gravitating force that will make you want to buy it?
I wanted one...but @349 vs the Gear S of either model which offer 3G, a accurate heart rate monitor, better battery-life and more; why pay more when the Apple Watch can't even compete on a similar level?...
12. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
What si the point of sending a heart beat or scribbles? if you are alive you have a hear beat, what is the benefit of artificial heart beat? Why do I need to send a scribble. I can send a scribble with my Note.Even with the iPhone you can send a text message where you can use handwriting if you want.
Why woudl I want to draw on a tiny ass screen? I dont even do that on the watch I have now and I can. It's just senseless capabilities.
Apple should have been first to make the device as standalone as possible. Yet they made an accessory which si what other OEM's were bashed for, but not Apple. Samsung was bashed not only because the original Gear wasn't standalone, but because it also needed your Phoenix for initial setup...but the Apple Watch requires this too. Yet it was spoke of as innovative simply because its pretty.
Looks are not an innovation. People sit at a desk and draw a pretty case to fit around a circuit board. There is nothign innovative about it.
Form over function has always been Apple's Achilles Heel.
They need to learn how to bring form and function together because that is what everyone else is doing and that is why, Windows had 1.3Billion users years ago. Its why Android had 1.2Billion users years ago and why Apple; I dont care how much money they make, end up in some tight little corner charging excessive amount of money for half-assed work on products that should be much better based on what they cost.
After all a product isn't better because it costs more, it costs more because it is suppose to be better. With Apple this is not the case.
Apple I want an Apple Watch. But if you can;t even bring one that can compete even with the Gear S for example, I don't care if you released it for $100 I still won't buy it if I can find something better for equal price. I dont mind paying more as long as I actually get more. People who dont do that are simply stupid.
15. darkkjedii (Posts: 19785; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
32. boltman (Posts: 21; Member since: 15 May 2015)
This man got serious problems. The hate is over 9000 lmao!
18. ashm1420 (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Feb 2016)
I have read a few comments around the Internet about the Apple Watch, everyone keeps saying it will be like the "s" model and that the "s" models don't get any big updates but I'm pretty sure the 5s had a finger print scanner built in. Sorry but that's pretty big hardware update is it not? So if apple dose decide to call it a "s" model why wouldn't it have big hardware updates. I know it may not just my view.
19. tedkord (Posts: 10260; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
We'll see what it's got to offer, but if it's just a minor refresh, that's a big mistake. The first was underwhelming, and you've got much more impressive options on the market already that are also much better looking.
Not that I really see a compelling reason for any smartwatch. I might buy one next year, but not because I see it as needed, but just because it's cool.
24. darkkjedii (Posts: 19785; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
As someone who drives for a living, they come in handy for me.
27. jeroome86 (Posts: 857; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Good grief. Someone already got 6 posts on this Apple article?
29. ibend (Posts: 3537; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)
and someone already write several article on comment section :-/
30. ibend (Posts: 3537; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)
such a long way to mention that apple will likely to add wifi, camera, and new processor -_-
too much beat around the bush here..
btw, if they made that much change for next AW, that mean they admit that last gen didnt sell that well, and they need to do something about it.. lol