New Windows Phone head lobbing bombs at Apple, Android
Big words for a man whose mobile OS is still trying to catch up with Bada’s sales numbers, but it’s consistent with the tone being set by the director of Windows Phone, Aaron Woodman, who said last week that Microsoft needs to “pick a fight with the competition.”
From a market share viewpoint Windows Phone certainly does need to pick a fight with the competition, but we think Team Microsoft would find greater success if they stick to fights they can win. Apple is known for long term support of its devices; you can certainly argue about whether the iPhone 3GS is powerful enough to run iOS5, but it’s a stretch to imply that Apple is purposely trying to sacrifice the user experience.
Likewise, while Android handsets get updated at very different speeds (speeds which are never fast enough for enthusiasts), most of the mainstream Android handsets get at least one or two major OS updates – the 2010 Droid X, for example, got updates to Froyo and then Gingerbread before getting too long in the tooth for Ice Cream Sandwich. Hardly what you could call “none”, regardless of where you learned statistics.
What’s especially vexing in this case is Myerson seemed to be dodging questions about whether Windows Phone 8 – the much ballyhooed Apollo update expected in late 2012 – would be backwards compatible will all current WP7 devices. His refusal to provide an answer might be due to where they are in the development cycle – being 4-6 months away from Windows Phone 8 going gold, they may simply not know yet which hardware will be able to run the new version. Especially with a new kernel that is expected to be the same as the Windows 8 desktop version, it could be a tall order to get it running on 18 month old handsets.
Perhaps Myerson shouldn’t be casting stones if they are still unsure about backwards compatibility in WP8. We understand that the underdog often feels the need to go after the market leaders, but perhaps stick to facts that won’t come back to bite you in the end.
source: Business Insider
1. LoneShaolin (Posts: 307; Member since: 14 Jan 2012)
Lobbing bombs comment + 70's Col War era USAF Nuke Bomber pic = EPIC VICTORY
EDIT - I found my wife's old 3GS chillin in our drunk drawer and upped it to iOS 5.0.whatever and this shit is slow as fuck. Apple sabotaging old phones to make you buy new tech almost seems plausible, but then wouldn't everyone do that? Your money stored in your pocket not buying a new phone and updating older ones is far more important to Apple/Google/Windows/whoever to "cripple the experience" and buy a new phone.
2. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
What's happening to Microsoft? Used to be classy.
4. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Is that a B-58? I don't recall too many US bombers of that vintage with delta wings.
7. LoneShaolin (Posts: 307; Member since: 14 Jan 2012)
You sir are correct. Convair B-58 Hustler. I'm a bigger fan of Cold War planes than the current crop, except for the F/A18E and anything Growler/Wild Weasel status. Grew up on bases.
5. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
They all do that eventually. they either dont update it, or give it an update that makes the phone suck so you get annoyed to buy a new device. There is no escape from it on any side of the isle, even from MS. the author makes a good point about maybe picking on something that they themselves wont get yelled at for doing.
Technically, changing the kernel should be an effortless affair. Any wp7 handset should be able to run wp8, it just might not be able to run ALL the features of WP8... so if MS actually implements a stripped down WP8 to older sets the way Apple does to older iOS sets, or lets them out to pasture like Android manufacturers do, is yet to be seen.
8. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Yeah, a stripped down WP8 is something to watch out for, since the full version is a RAM monster. Have to consider functionality too, since the stripped down version might lose a lot of that.
3. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
"he decried Apple’s updates to older hardware, claiming the updates intentionally crippling them,"
Actually I find this quite the opposit, ever since I updated my iPhone 4 to ios 5 is been a lot quicker. And the part where android phones never get updated, completely false this new wp guy is a scare monger nothing more.
9. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
iPhone 4 is still quite fast. They were referring to the older models (e.g. 3GS) since the hardware is indeed a bit slow for iOS5.
6. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
I guess it was just my imagination that my Android phone got updated.
33. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
I guess what he's referring to is the fact that most Android handsets are being launched with the last years Android version, then after a few months or more - it gets upgraded to this years version. So there's no real upgrade since the phone was released with an outdated version of the OS, and then just catched up to what you were supposed to have gotten in the first place. Any update after can be seen like a really stretched bonus :-)
In short: Many high-end Android handsets are still being launched with Gingerbread, even though Ice Cream Sandwich is what they Should be launched with. And by the time they all get their upgrades to ICS, Jelly Bean is waiting around the corner with a new set of handsets they want you to pay money for.
So if you get an upgrade from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwitch to Jelly Bean, you can consider yourself very lucky ...
10. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
even my old Droid X which is hibernating.. got the update...
11. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
im done with android for that reason updates they take a year after release for you to get em then when you get there buggy and turn your phone into a brick you shouldnt have to root to have a good experience on a device that you paid for to work out of the box.
16. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)
Apple is no better when it comes to updates
21. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
Apple doesn't need to, because it doesn't produce trash.
23. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)
Yeah, they just recycle the same trash every year.
12. Sinaps (Posts: 60; Member since: 27 Jul 2010)
WHHY. Just put ice cream sandwich on the damn Droid X.
13. snowgator (Posts: 3233; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Okay, everyone on this forum knows I am a big WP supporter. Overall, I have no serious issue here. Apple built it's reputation on attacking Microsoft with it's"I'm a mac" commercials, and any super competitive consumer market has a bit of negative and some cheap shots here and there. Just check out the Auto industry and the soft drink industry. But, truly, get a little history first, guys. Get to WP8, update your existing devices, (I have no doubt they will) and get Nokia, HTC, and Samsung Apollo devices out with specs worthy of competing with Apple and Android. THAN lay-th the smack talk down to get noticed. Right now, you are shooting spit balls at Godzilla and King Kong. They aren't even taking notice....
15. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)
I'm not surprised that people at Microsoft would say stuff like that and its all realativly true. Apple does seem like they're purposly sabotaging their devices to get people to buy their new devices.
Android does get updates but it's mostly the major name devices that get the good updates. All the small, low spend ones rarely get anything or just get a watered down version of it.
But WP7 is barely in the running when it comes to competeing so they really shouldn't talk at least not yet.
19. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
Apple can do w/e it wants and still destroy Microsoft. In gamers terms GG Microsoft.
31. Penny (Posts: 1192; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Not sure if the gaming community is on your side, considering OSX is just about the worst platform for it.
32. Striker (Posts: 92; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Perhaps sites like phonearena.com should stop ''giving advice'' to people and companies far more educated than them, and stick to what they can do best - post news, alright?
34. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1098; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
MICROSOFT is going to get some of the same criticism when Windows smart Phone 8 comes out 4th quarter this year because most current phone wont be able to upgraded to the New Windows phone 8 OS unless Microsoft computer programmers can write a special Mango program that can cause the The Windows mango smart phones to erase Windows 7.5 Mango and Tango 2 and load the appropriate form of windows 8 to give their smart phones only Windows 8 software updates. People will have to buy Brand New Windows 8 smart phones to get the get Higher screen resolutions and dual cores CPU's and Micro SD card slots and ect