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New T.V. spots for the Apple iPhone 4S highlight Siri, the new camera and the iCloud

0. phoneArena 30 Oct 2011, 20:14 posted on

Three new television spots for the Apple iPhone 4S have debuted and one is another Siri focused ad with a little boy asking a timely question about the weather (especially if you live up north); the other two spots deal with the functions of iCloud and the new 8MP camera on the device...

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posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:01 3

1. paulyyd (Posts: 327; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)


hopefully phonearena prohibited michael heller from writing articles about apple products, I hate reading articles from an android fanboy journalist.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:24 4

2. trin (Posts: 88; Member since: 11 May 2010)


You would prefer it if they were written by Apple fanboys? Say this one for example? Because ya know nobody watches commercials on tv.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:25 5

3. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I agree. He has a hard time being objective he should write for the platform he loves.

3 revolutionary products by Apple.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 22:22 7

7. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


They're evolutionary, not revolutionary. Siri is an expansion on voice controls, which have been around for years. It's very well done, but the biggest Siri trick-its nuanced understanding of questions and personable responses-are still all preprogrammed. Everything that Siri says and understands is simply the work of brainstorming Nuance-sorry, Apple*-employees sitting down and trying to guess what people will ask Siri. Thus, it's no surprise that when I stepped into the Apple store yesterday and asked Siri "why is Android better than the iPhone?" "she" couldn't even give me a retort like "don't you have it backward?" and instead offered a web search for the phrase.

iCloud is yet another service that is simply an expansion on concepts already in place with Google Docs, Google Music, Picasa, etc. Nothing in the overall concept is completely unique; it's merely a more fleshed out service.

And the iPhone's camera is great, but again, it does not employ any truly unique concepts. Apple just crammed the best camera they could muster into the phone.

This is the harm that Apple's marketing has done. Whenever a cool new Apple product or service comes out, no matter what it is, it's called "REVOLUTIONARY!!!!"™ It's not enough that the product be great, or well done, or more fleshed out. No, Apple has to appeal to the desire for the unique that "REVOLUTIONARY!!!!" evokes. It's a lie, however; much like religion's cheapening of the word "love" and the interne's cheapening of "epic," we're seeing a cheapening of "revolutionary."

Bringing open source to the mainstream was revolutionary. Siri is not.

That's all I have to say for the moment.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 23:45 2

10. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Open source is a joke since android isn't really open where it counts.

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 00:20 3

11. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


And where does it count, Taco? Android is open to any manufacturer who wants to use it as their OS. That counts. Users can gain the same level of access to the programming that the manufacturers have and install custom GUIs and make the phones do things they were never intended to do for customers. That counts too. So what are we talking about here, Taco?

Android offers customers control over their phones that has been completely unprecedented in history. You talk about how Apple changed things at AT&T; however, the adoption of Android turned Verizon Wireless upside down in its policies. Before Android, Verizon had a strict policy that its own software/interface be installed over whatever the manufacturer originally included, and that Verizon have complete control over apps and such. It was all Verizon Verizon Verizon, on every device. It made it easier for people to go from one device to the next, but it made phones on Verizon boring and limited. For instance, a uniform complaint was that Verizon's music player interface sucked, yet every phone had it.

When Android came out, it was assumed that Verizon would either never adopt an Android phone or that any Android device would be crippled by Verizon Verizon Verizon. However, the worst we've seen is that they'll throw their own apps on the phones ALONGSIDE the native Android apps. You're not limited to Vcast. You don't have to use VZ Navigator. And Verizon has been pretty good about not blocking access to apps.

The fact that Verizon has messed with Android as little as possible, especially on devices like the original DROID, SHOCKED the tech world. Verizon essentially dumped their entire rulebook on phone software in the trash overnight when they adopted Android. And although AT&T tried to be more controlling at first and was late to the party in offering compelling and non retarded Android phones, they got their act together too.

The iPhone may have changed how people saw smartphones much faster than would otherwise have happened, but Android changed how the carriers treated their phones and their customers.

THAT'S revolutionary.

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 13:01

14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You must be kidding. Verizon phones are loaded with bloatware, unlike the iPhone. Android is also locked down and has to be rooted

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 13:27

15. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Locked down? Are you joking? You mist be joking. A new out of box Android phone does more than a jailbroken iPhone. Rooting just gives you even greater control than you already have.

And "bloatware"? Its biggest offense is that it makes your app list longer. Some "bloatware" is actually quite useful, and you never have to use it. Do you honestly think I ever used Blockbuster, for instance? Nope.

It's still light years ahead of where Verizon was a couple of years ago. Where has Verizon overwritten the manufacturer's GUI or apps in favor of its own on any Android phone?

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 15:00 1

16. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


sniggly please dont engage taco, nothing good will ever come from it. you just cant reason with some people.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:25 3

4. Carlitos (Posts: 352; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


I prefer the robots vs humans, like that girl from the bionic ads.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:50 4

5. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 412; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


Wow...is that it...year and a half wait for a camera...siri...and icloud.....

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 22:15 2

6. networkdood (Posts: 6327; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


APPLE does as little as possible while making the phone as cheap as possible, while giving it the appearance of being a quality item.....great marketing and people fall for it.....

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 23:18 2

8. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5955; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


When you don't have a compelling hardware release, you have to talk about new software. Although I would agree with Snig in that what Apple (and their fanboys) is claiming to be revolutionary is only revolutionary on iDevices.

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 23:38 2

9. warlockz (Posts: 156; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)


I agree with the gent above a year and a half and really minor upgrades. Siri is useless it sounds cool but really its just a gimmick. Like I said before man doesuse not create things only manipulates existing things and clearly the iphone 4s shows how apple is running out of ideas. Listen up apple fans to the following...if one is looking for a solid simple user friendly phone iphone is a very good choice but it definately is not a top tier technology phone with lots of utility.

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 01:10

12. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


Funny
Apple pays to promote features of android phones

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 12:04

13. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


I have a question. If you have a 16gb iPhone and a 32gb iPad and have iCloud enabled what happens when the iPhone gets full and you take a picture on your iPad or add a new song? Just curious about how it works when space is limited. I can't seem to find anywhere that discusses this scenario. The iPhone is on Sprint and my daughter wants one (she wants to do graphic design so she is considering the Apple ecosystem).

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 15:01

17. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


well at least apple recognizes that there are only 3 notable improvements from the 4 to the 4s.

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