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New Nexus 5 benchmarks leak, reveal stunning graphics prowess

0. phoneArena 25 Sep 2013, 09:31 posted on

The Nexus 5 appeared on GFXBench’s website. The handset scored brilliantly on two game simulation tests…

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posted on 25 Sep 2013, 09:38 6

1. Kal-el (Posts: 87; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)


Neat-o

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:43 33

18. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I like how phone arena posts the test that the nexus 5 ties with the ip5s and not the test where the nexus 5 wins by a 10% margin. *eye roll*

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:21 14

29. Navaid (Posts: 46; Member since: 05 Sep 2013)


That's why it is called iPhone Arena.. ;p

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:13 10

46. TechBlue (Posts: 55; Member since: 06 May 2010)


its evident that this site favors the iPhone most of the write ups are about Apple. kind of sickening.

posted on 26 Sep 2013, 11:00

78. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)


I feel something rotten from the rotten Apple known for the greedy affair ebook price fixing robbery

Otherwise it's just a sick heads of brainwashed people who don't mind it's just an outdated iConboard

It's like a funny hype for an old Nokia dumb phone :)

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 15:21

57. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


I've seen just as many tests that show the Adreno 330 at 22 or 23 fps.

Graphics benchmark results vary because of stress on the GPU which produces heat which reduces performance. Running benchmarks back to back further impacts results.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 16:43

67. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3650; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


That was especially apparent on the Nexus 4, because it had very limited thermal throttling, much more than any other device with the S4 Pro. You could run benchmarks back to back with about any other S4 Pro device and get similar results (it would be blazing hot, but still), but with the Nexus 4 you could only run the tests two or three times before the throttling maxed out at 50% GPU capacity.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 23:27

71. RomeoJDR (Posts: 237; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


The article mentions it is "on par or even leading the 5s." Sure the review of the 5c was way way way overating for a phone that does not even match the performance of Android phones 6+ months old, but as a whole I don't find most authors here catering to Apple. Then again I'm used to reading CNET which must get Apple kick backs, so my gauge of Apple bias may be a little off.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 09:42 2

2. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


This is gonna be one mega device!!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 09:42 2

3. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


PvrSgx is better than Snapdragon

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:10 5

8. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


That may be, but current Android phones don't use it. Are you advocating for the iPhone?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:46

19. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


AAHAAHAAA

Good job.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 12:58 1

41. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


S4 Exynos 5410 uses the PvrSgx MP3

Non international version

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:32 1

48. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


USA! USA!

Just sayin'.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:24 11

13. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Did you mean Power VR is better than Adreno?

Go home and make some coffee. You're drunk!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:55 2

21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5482; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


damn, beat me to it. xD

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 12:06 1

34. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Sorry. :(

Here's a +1 to cheer you up ol' sport.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 12:56 1

40. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Pvrsgx544 mp4 beats out the Adreno 330. If clocked at 600mhz.
Best GPU are by Pvrsgx
Best CPU are by Exynos
You will never see Apple using Snapdragon.
I am not drunk
Snapdragon don't even have an A15 clusters yet, still relying on halfbaked! A9-A15 cores

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:06 1

43. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Even the Sgx554 the iPad4 GPU destroys the Adreno330, and that'sclocked at 377, if clocked at600 or raised at 700 the max.

Adreno330 is Snapdragons hhigh end, Pvrsgx on the ip5s is an entry level GPU, let alone they still have their highends.
MaliT67 on N3 even crushes the A330, still the T678 is war far ahead!
Your drunk papa smurf, I normally tinker and change, alter voltage uphold, down hold GPU settings so I should no...

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 14:34

53. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 110; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


Who care what games are using there full power?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 14:56 2

54. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3650; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


The iPad 4 and LG G2 are pretty much on par with each other in GFXBench. Neither necessarily destroying the other, but the Adreno 330 is MUCH more power efficient, being able to be over clocked more without eating up your battery, unlike the PowerVR SGX554MP4.

Also, the iPhone 5S uses the PowerVR G6430, which is PowerVR's current second place holder in the Rogue class of GPUs (in first is the G6630), definitely not entry level like you said, and it scores on par with the Adreno 330 as well. And, the GPU in the Note 3 (international) is the Mali-T628MP6, not the Mali-T678. You need to brush up on your GPU studies, Troll, you're losing your touch.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 15:50 3

62. ahomad (Posts: 131; Member since: 15 May 2012)


additionally, after Z1 or G2 get 4.3 update which brings Open GL ES 3.0 support that will boast the GPU score to 5s level if not surpassing it.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 16:32 2

65. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3650; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


The Z1 and G2 already are just as, if not slightly faster than the iPhone 5S in terms of GPU, Open GL ES 3.0 will only further that lead.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 16:10 2

64. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


You just proved you know very little about GPU/CPUs...

Just stop before you embarrass yourself again.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 09:51 7

4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


N5 is looking better and better each day. It scored equally to the Rouge GPU on the iPhone 5S!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:46 2

20. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


So where's ninetysix with his nexus 5 vs 5s benchmark links he got 5 months ago?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:09

44. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


And that's Quallcoms best GPU vs PvrSgx is entry level! Shows how scrap Snapdragon is and always have been!
Like Remixfa always use to say..

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:51 3

51. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


2011 called. It wants its Crapdragon™ back.

Google would not have put Snapdragon processors in the Nexus 4 and 5 if it thought they were lacking. Just because the Exynos might be faster (when programmed properly) doesn't mean the Snapdragon isn't awesome.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:26 2

47. ahomad (Posts: 131; Member since: 15 May 2012)


do you know that nexus 5 is (highly) possibly using adreno 330. Why it scored over other devices using the same GPU? because it is running 4.3+ while others run 4.2 and we know that 4.3 brings compatibility to Open GL ES 3.0, which will give some boast to the other devices' GPU when they update to 4.3, then they all would score the same if not better than the iPhone 5s

posted on 29 Sep 2013, 00:44

81. AciMars (Posts: 15; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)


stupid saying this thing, open gl es3.0 boost quality of graphics not performance, the different performance happen because of different allocation memory for GPU and also thermal restriction.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 09:56 3

5. metalspy101 (Posts: 23; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)


Google please make enough Nexus 5.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:00 8

6. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4599; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Nexus 5 will have high specifications, newest Android OS, reasonable price and will be released somewhere close to the holidays, it will be a hot cake!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:14

10. Synack (Posts: 641; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


But the real question is.... what carrier(s) and will it be on Google Play or will it be subsidized and wayoverpriced ala Moto X. A lot of people are waiting on a version that can be activated on Verizon/Sprint but bought through Google Play.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:23

12. SellPhones82 (Posts: 384; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Yep, I'll be one of them, though some of the reports I saw said this thing will have every North American frequency/band with exception to the VZW LTE.

"Well, today, the LG D820 authorization documents are back. And we are looking at a 3GPP/3GPP2 handset that runs nearly the full North American wireless airlink gamut:
GSM 850/1900
W-CDMA 1900/2100+1700/850 (band 2, 4, 5)
CDMA1X/EV-DO 850/1900/800 (band class 0, 1, 10)
LTE 2100+1700/850/700/1900/800 (band 4, 5, 17, 25, 26)
TD-LTE 2600 (band 41)
The only notable omission is LTE 750, VZW's currently boutique band 13 -- possibly left out for political reasons, since VZW has a strained relationship with Nexus devices, or for technical reasons, as band 13 has an inverted FDD uplink/downlink duplex. But in a nutshell, this handset looks like it could be headed to AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint, covering all of their bases.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:26 4

14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


T-Mobile is going to pick it up for sure. They know how to properly handle Nexus devices unlike Verizon and Sprint.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:32 2

16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4599; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Talking about carriers and subsidies, I don't know since I'm from Europe and this question is more relevant for U.S. consumers. In my country, there is no subsidies for mobile phones also phones are not locked to a certain carrier even if you buy it on a contract. Also we can use prepaid SIM cards. Usually I buy phones without any contracts. Main problem here is that Google doesn't support sales to my country, at least that was with Nexus 4. So we have to buy it through other country or wait till resellers and or carriers will get it, but usually that won't took long.

Talking about Motorola Moto X price, in my opinion Motorola Moto X was overpriced because it was manufactured in U.S. And if Nexus 5 will be manufactured by LG, then it will be manufactured somewhere in asia.

posted on 26 Sep 2013, 06:18

75. kassi (Posts: 38; Member since: 25 May 2013)


U.S. consumers dont get any subsidies in the real meaning of the word.

posted on 26 Sep 2013, 06:40

76. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4599; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't know but people from U.S. talks a lot about subsidies it this community.

posted on 13 Oct 2013, 11:23 1

82. FYoung (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


PhoneArenaUser, you're correct in saying that people often say that US cellphones are subsidized by the carriers; so, it's understandable that you used that terminology.

However, strictly speaking, kassi is right since US phones are not actually subsidized. Unbeknownst to most buyers, they are sold full price (which is usually undisclosed) in two-year installment plans that are called voice and data contracts. The difference between the phone's real price and the downpayment that is often falsely advertised as the price is commonly, but inaccurately, called a subsidy. Actually, it is an advance or loan, not a subsidy, since it will be fully repaid to the carrier through inflated data and voice rates that disguise the true price of the phone.

The only phones that may be subsidized are the Nexus phones sold by Google at low prices in certain markets even though they are not locked to a voice and data contract. However, even here, it's arguable that the phones are not subsidized, but merely sold at wholesale cost, which is about half of the retail price. Presumably, Google sells the phones at cost in those markets where it hopes that it will be able to make its profit through the Google Play store.

Sorry for the lecture if you already knew all this.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:08

7. lovefist (unregistered)


Oooolright! Gaming on the nexus 5 wasn't the reason im buying it but damn this really excites me.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 21:42

69. Shatter (Posts: 1766; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Adreno 330 will be required to fuel my emulator addiction.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:12 3

9. Sakeem (Posts: 130; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Please...........please work on VZW network. PLEASE!!!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:16 2

11. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 807; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Hopefully they come out with a variant that runs on Verizon's network.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:27 2

15. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Yes, I would wait for a Verizon Nexus 5. It would bring the best of the G2 without its clunky software. I highly, highly doubt it's coming though. Verizon doesn't want nor need it.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 10:39 2

17. Ninetysix (Posts: 1072; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Google will say it's "sold out" after a few minutes for you know..marketing hype.

AmIDoingItRight???

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:02 8

22. frydaexiii (Posts: 1157; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Funny cos Google doesn't have to lie or manipulate numbers to create flase hype like a certain company, they just focus on creating a phone with high end specs with mid range prices and let the consumers who actually have a brain to do the rest.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:08 2

25. Ninetysix (Posts: 1072; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


So you believe Google when they say that currently have 1.75M Android "activations" per day?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:15 10

27. frydaexiii (Posts: 1157; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Why not? Android isn't just held within the constraints of Samsung, HTC, Sony & LG, there are lesser brands like Huawei, Oppo, ZTE and clone manufacturers like Goophone. The latter being extremely prominent in China, so it's not hard to believe.

posted on 26 Sep 2013, 04:07

74. tedkord (Posts: 3914; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes, because it's true.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:05 3

23. SellPhones82 (Posts: 384; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Google and LG didn't expect the Nexus 4 to be as big as it was and it took until Feb of this year to get the supply up to where it needed to be. Sales estimates on Google's part were way off and LG called them out for it. If they do the same with the 5 then shame on both of them. If they don't have 4-5 million ready to go at launch then hold it off until you do!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Prayers-have-been-answered-the-Google-Nexus-4-is-not-sold-out_id37083

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 15:29 2

59. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Yes, you are. You are completely ignoring the point of the article and diverting to something completely irrelevant in relation to this article.

In other words, spin.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:08

24. k1ng617 (Posts: 234; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


Can't we just use the new Kindle Fires as references since they have the same GPU?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:11 1

26. AfterShock (Posts: 1256; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


N5 for me, and wifey.
This'll be our break from HTC.

benchmark aside, I thought iPhones big deal was its 64b cpu?
not its gpu this time around, with that said in my mind this N5 with a old 32bit quad 800 with a skinless os is going to hassle that big nasty 64bit dual core of iPhone's, benchmarks as well.

Entertaining an somewhat exciting times near ahead.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:17 1

28. Ninetysix (Posts: 1072; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


You don't have to wait. You can gauge what the CPU benchmarks will look like. LG G2 uses the same CPU and MSM8974 have been tested already.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:41 5

31. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


what the hell is it with you and that damn article, your just plain obssesed your almost worse than mxy!

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 15:43 1

60. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


That's all he does now. He didn't use to post this much. Notice how he's around more since the 5s announcement. He's just using these links as an excuse to be right all day.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 11:44 1

32. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4599; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Not necessarily true! For example LG G2 use the same Snapdragon 800 (8974) as Sony Xperia Z1 but benchmark results are different.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 12:47

37. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Yes, but the n5 is based on the g2. Likely to be substantial similarity.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:01 1

42. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4599; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Even not talking about hardware, there will be software differences between LG G2 and Nexus 5. There won't be heavy LG user interface and other bloatware. Also Nexus 5 may come with latest Android version and all these software changes will impact benchmark results for sure.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 13:37

50. Valdomero (Posts: 120; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


the most important difference I care is the price, don't forget about the price.

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