New Microsoft Surface Pro to launch with Surface mini?
0. phoneArena 09 May 2014, 15:15 posted on
On May 20th, Microsoft is expected to introduce the Microsoft Surface mini. This is expected to be a Windows RT powered 8 inch slate, powered by a Qualcomm processor, that will come with a digital pen and focus on message taking. In addition to the bite-sized version of the Surface, there is speculation that Microsoft will also introduce the third iteration of the Microsoft Surface Pro on the same day...
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2. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
I'd argue the Pro-version needs to be much lighter, thinner and with comparable or better battery life to be considered a worthy upgrade. I don't know of any technology currently on the market to make that a possibility.
26. vincelongman (Posts: 4152; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
I doubt they could fit dGPU in the small body, even most 13" ultrabooks/macbooks don't have dGPU
I think they should make a version with Intel Iris Pro graphics (inside a few 13/15" ultrabooks and the 15" macbook pro), its comparable to the GT 640/50M, so its quite capable for a iGPU
Also a 13" surface pro would awesome as well
4. eggimage (Posts: 79; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
They should just remove the desktop mode from RT at once and push the developers to go full-touch friendly interfaces..
17. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
It's only there for office.
Oh and I guess the file manager lol.
5. azalucel (Posts: 133; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
Honestly they need to reduce the price big time, the msi gs60 ghost pro 052 has the same price tag as the surface pro 2 512, the gs60 has a nvidia gtx 870 with 3gb of ram a intel i7 4800hq a 15.6 inch full hd screen and plenty more features, i dont know what drugs microsoft is on but just cause their name is on it dosent justify the pricetag
7. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Hit the nail right on the head. The price of the Surface Pro is absurdly high. Microsoft should ditch the Surface RT models and reduce the Surface Pro 2 to $499 for the 64GB model. That would give the world a reason to care about Microsoft tablets.
14. b0wzer (Posts: 103; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
I agree that the price is too high, but $499 is pretty unrealistic. Even starting at $999 would be a great deal.
28. vincelongman (Posts: 4152; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Sure the surface could be more affordable, but $499 for the 512GB version is currently unrealistic
The i5-4300U CPU is $280 and a 512GB SSD is $250, that's already over $500
Hopefully SSD prices and Intel CPUs prices come down more this year (if only AMD's CPUs could keep up with Intel)
A 256GB surface pro for $999 would a great realistic deal
Also the gs60 ghost pro 052 only has 128GB SSD, which is ~$60 (compared the a 512GB SSD which is $250)
30. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
And battery life? Not to mention your comparing a laptop that has off the shelf parts to one that is custom built. Though custom laptop is somewhat arguable.
The laptop you describe has about 4hrs of life in power saver mode according to users who have left reviews on it. The Surface 2 has shown that it can do 5 hours of streaming Netflix.
In the end, the 128gb model which is more on par with what you are comparing it to in terms of HDD space is 1k vs 1800. Also portability, at 4.36lbs the laptop is no lightweight imo when compared to the surfaces 2lbs.
Also the surface imo is much more portable as well. In the end you could spring for the laptop, but the touch tablet (as far as I know the laptop you gave is NOT touch), is a better compromise for people in the sub 14in market.
8. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1530; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
There is a rumor that the Surface Pro 3 will be a half a pound lighter and will come with a Intel i7 Processor. but what some People want is in addition to giving the new Surface Pro 3
an Intel i7 Processor and making it lighter- they want it to have a larger screen like an 11.5 to 13 inch tablet screen. The good thing is the surface Pro needs the Intel i7 CPU because it will then be able to access and use all the computer aided design programs, High def Video games. Calculus math programs and ect. It also needs 4g LTE to be a true mobile tablet
9. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
It had better be expandable to 16GB RAM as well, then. The current Surface 2 Pro is a crippled POS with 4GB unless you get the pricier models with more storage and 8GB RAM. And 8GB is really the minimum RAM for anyone who really uses their computer for doing a few things at once.
11. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
Facepalm... you can't expand RAM on tablets. If they integrate 16GB RAM it'll absolutely drive the cost much higher
12. Commentator (Posts: 3669; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
You can't, but is there a reason you couldn't? The Surface Pro uses an x86 processor. By my understanding, and I could be wrong, wouldn't expanding RAM be as viable as doing it in a laptop or desktop? Is RAM in x86 tablets different in some way that it absolutely couldn't be designed to be expandible?
15. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Microsoft could have made RAM expandable on any of the Surface Pro models, i.e. added a small access panel which exposed two SO-DIMM slots. Not only would this have made the Surface Pro tablets more affordable, it would have also let people do more with them simply by adding two 8GB SO-DIMMs.
16. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
That'll it'll ruin the Premium feel of the tablet. Clearly the Surface doesn't appeal to you
18. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The idea of the Surface Pro appeals to me. But I will not buy an underspec unexpandable tablet for an absurdly high price.
Your definition of "Premium" seems quite limited. A company with good design chops would figure out how to elegantly integrate memory expansion into the design.
31. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
8GB minimum? What are you trying to do on a tablet, any tablet that would require use of 8gb minimum? At that point switch to a desktop. Games don't even use that.
Currently my desktop has 4gb, I can run multiple IE sessions, Visual Studio, Blender 3D, and other apps all at once without to much problems. This is far more than I would put on any tablet or laptop at once with such small screen estate.
I could see your need if you absolutely need to replace your pc completely and having your surface as our sole pc/tablet with nothing else. But really it is just whining imo that is, no hard feelings but seriously no other tablet lights a candle to what this can do.
34. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
My desktop has 64GB RAM and my notebook has 16GB. If I want to use a Surface Pro tablet as a notebook replacement, then having 16GB is important for me. I sure don't want to carry around a tablet and a notebook.
13. Cod3rror (Posts: 123; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
The current size is fine. But, in addition to what Surface Pro 2 already has, it needs:
A bit thinner bezels
More USB 3.0 ports (USB PD support)
Same or more power
Gyro and other sensors
Screen with MUCH less input latency
22. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
With a i7 I would buy one, but the Sony and Samsung version look sexier "especially the Sony one looks stunning"
19. dorian827 (Posts: 155; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
With any new Surface product, consumers will be lucky to see performance, features and usability under $600 for any high spec Surface with a full Windows 8 experience.
HP has much better tablets, hybrids and laptops. I love my "HP Pavilion x360" and "Pavilon x2 11" under $500 for me.
21. johnyjackson (unregistered)
Stupid MS. Change display ratio. 16:9 is for big monitor and tv. And stop self-oem. You are not hardware company.
24. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
JJ is not jealous. But all of Microsoft's Windows hardware OEMs look at Surface with anger and a sense of betrayal.
25. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Your username should be Microsoft FTW
27. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Mistake man... It should be MicrosoftMobileOyjWTF. Lmao.
32. sonisoe (Posts: 406; Member since: 06 May 2009)
only few people will buy an rt tablet... msft should just out a full windows 8 inch..
33. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1530; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Folks why are so many of you buying Ipads and Android Tablets that do not run any regular windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8/ 8.1 desktop/Server programs yet you will not buy a Microsoft Windows on ARMS CPU RT OS Tablet like the Surface RT, Surface 2 or the Nokia 2520 Tablet that does the same thing. Apple Ipads and Android Tablets use ARMS CPU'S just like the Windows RT OS Tablets do and none of them run standard Windows desktop programs because the programming code is different. I think it is unfair for People to think Microsoft should only make Tablets that run programs that were written to run on Computers that run XP. Vista. Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 OS's. Please take note folks
that you will have pay hundreds of dollars more for good PC Tablets like a Surface Pro/Pro 2
that run XP, Vista windows 7, Windows 8/8.1 desktop/Server programs. Folks if you do not want not want to pay the big bucks for a really good full Windows Tablet that use's costly Intel i5 and i7 CPU"S reconsider buying cheaper Windows RT OS tablet they come loaded with MS Office and you can get MS "outlook" too. their Apps catalog is increasing too.
35. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
There really isn't any good software for Windows RT. Even Microsoft Office on RT is some crippled version.
Unless Microsoft actually puts on their big boy pants and makes their APIs and apps equivalent on RT and normal Windows, I just don't see the point of RT.
36. deuel18 (Posts: 41; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
Good job Microsoft. A 8-7" tablet like Surface Pro is an excellent move...