New Android products being outsold by Apple iPhone 3GS and the original iPad
0. phoneArena 09 May 2011, 12:14 posted on
The older versions of Apple devices, offered at a discount by AT&T and Verizon, are outselling some current Android models; at AT&T, the Apple iPhone 3GS is outselling handsets like the HTC Inspire 4G...
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1. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
"He also notes that while Android as a whole has outsold the iPhone because of the large amount of different phones using Google's open source OS, there has been no other single smartphone that has outsold Apple's device."
3. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I simply have no words to say.... what kind of post is this?
11. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Lets be real, Android is outnumbering iOS, period. There is no way around that. The story is just skewing the facts to make it seem like Apple is outdoing Android in some capacity. Really the story would have to be Apple is beating Motorola, LG, Samsung, or others in handset sells...not Android as a whole.
Apple releases one phone a year. So if you want an iOS product, you have to buy that one phone. There are tons of Android devices out there coming out every few weeks. True, that one iPhone defines the OS for that year where as there are so many flavors of Android that there will never be one handset to rule them all...at least not for very long.
20. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
indeed if you want IOS there is only one choice, if you want android there are many to choose from to me this is how things are
-iPhone most selling smartphone
-android most selling smartphone OS
that should settle the differences
25. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah this article is so meaningless and so pointless that I am ashamed that iPhoneArena.com would even waste their energy in even thinking to write this stupid article. Apple has 2 current devices, the iPhone 4 & the iPad 2. The iPhone 4 is what it is, Android has phone coming out every 2 weeks or so worldwide. Android is competing with Apple & every other phone OS. Naturally Apple will sell a ton of iPhone 4's or 3GS's because that is all they have. Android is harder to have one super phone because HTC, Samsung, Motorola, LG & so on are making kickass phones left & right, so it's going to be so hard to have a super top phone in the Android world. It's easy to have a cookie cutter factory and pump iPhone 4's & 3GS’s when Android has so many companies fighting to be the #1 Android phone maker. I mean this article is so insanely Apple biased that I just don't know what else to say. iPhoneArena you are more guilty than a guy pissing & puking himself during a police DWI test. I for one just don't see how this is a worthwhile article, why not write about Angry Birds or something other than this garbage if you have nothing else to write about! It’s like you insult everyone who reads your website with this horrible, ugly, garbage of an article!
30. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
By the way $50.00 for an Apple 3GS, if you are looking at a 3GS it's because you obviously can't afford a new & current phone. You probably are upgrading for a Razr or something. For people who are cash strapped then yes go buy this phone, but for people who are in the know will get the latest & greatest. This is all in correlation to the economy. If the economy was not as bad as it is I bet the Apple 3GS would not even be mentioned at all..
39. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
from a Razr, I sometimes write too fast for my own good! iPhoneArena.com should have a spell check!
69. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Actually, PhoneArena is just reporting a story that quoted an analyst.
70. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
I know right? If this article was so "pointless" it would have little to no comments on it.
80. jbash (Posts: 342; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)
unfortunately half the comments have nothing to do with the article.
81. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
tell me about it... those comments should be removed....
43. Applefud (unregistered)
Isn't this the same argument that apple fans us all the time. . .. give a peace of shit away and it will do well?
As far as being the top "phone" by sales. That's BS!
Apple makes a LINE OF SMARTPHONES as is evident by this article. So does Nokia. Who sells more? NOKIA!
100. NeXoS (Posts: 278; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Everyone knows how a$$tarded these Wall Street analysts are.
What's his sample size, how many stores did he call? Probably 2-3. Notice how they FAIL to mention the sample size?
This is how analysts pump and dump a stock.
2. bossmt_2 (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
What a worthless article.
Is it a shock that a 50 dollar iPhone will outsell a 200+ dollar android phone? Nope. Especially since lots of people like the 3GS form factor better than the 4.
Google's strategy from the get go was divide and conquer, it's nearly impossible to compete with the iPhone on a man to man fight, so release a handful of flagship phones (Evo, Droid, Droid X, Incredible, Thunderbolt, Nexus One, Nexus S, Optimus, Galaxy S, etc.) release some less expensive models for entry level price (Eris, etc.) and take control of the software aspect. I would not be shocked once Android has a bit firmer grip on market shar, a truly elite "google" phone will come out. I'm not talking about the limited release Nexus manufactured by another company, but one built internally Branded by Google, and that will be a direct competitor to the iPhone.
4. Sniggly (Posts: 7253; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, when you price an iPhone at fifty bucks, it's going to sell. Duh.
6. Cobjones (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Mar 2011)
This article came from AppleInsider.... say much?
7. AppleOwner (unregistered)
This is like saying that the Cooper Mini outsells Toyota. It is just not true.
The Cooper Mini may outsell a certain Toyota model...but the Mini does not outsell all of the Toyota models in class from sub-compact to SUV and pickup.
The Cooper Mini is a great little product in a particular niche market. The iPhone is also a great little product in particular niche market.
Steve Jobs is determined that the right phone for everyone is the one he designed for his small hands.
The iPhone used to be the huge shark in the tank. Now it is being feasted on by a thousand piranhas.
8. SomeGuy (unregistered)
All fish metaphors aside... It's still pretty amazing that ONE phone can hold ground against a whole bunch of other smart phones.
Even if Google decided to divide and conquer.
9. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
actually, no.... the divide and conquer part is a lie.... of course many phones help android spread at a certainly fast rate, but also this reduces the sales on certain devices just because android has to compete with android among others for example me I'm either fighting to get the atrix or the SGS2 as my next phones, just like me there are hundreds that want to choose out of those two phones.... if we split them in even parts the sales may not be that impressive, but lets add more competition, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Dell, Asus, LG split them into the tastes of people and no android phone will show impressive sales at all, now the whole group turns into an impressive green mass....
this is why I think manufacturers work on their UI, android fans will fight over saying witch skins is superior above all the others, or witch phone has the better quality or the best parts, witch phone has a more lasting battery....
another example is the nexus S sales... who you think started disliking the phone? HTC and Motorola fans (myself included)
19. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Android fans and their UIs aside, they'll still agree that the iPhone feels inferior.
24. ATTCallCenter (unregistered)
I know you're not from the US, but your "witch" is spelled which. I'm just irritable today, but it's for your own good.
And to the Apple people claiming the iPhone will beat any single Android phone you are somewhat correct, yet still skewing the position here. There are too many Androids to choose from to make people buy the same one, whereas, there are like 4 different iPhones?
Apple is basically like a car company that makes one car. Just one car, it's a really nice car and a lot of people want one, but you just get to choose from one.
Now Android is like a car company that produces your mid-size, pickup, and luxury model cars. More than one type of car, ranging from cheap to comparable to Apple's car. You have more cars to choose from therefore, not everyone is going to buy the same car.
Now change the way you word things and skew results in favor the way you want them to appear and there you go. Apple cars outsell any single of Androids 10 different cars, but those 10 cars combined blow the tires off Apple completely. Now please learn to read better and comprehend what is going on here. If it wasn't for results with skewed words and results into the favor of one, marijuana would not be illegal
40. SomeGuy (unregistered)
Thank you. Thats all I was trying to say... It's pretty incredible that ONE phone can hold a quarter of the market share.
47. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You are right the phone is holding that quarter of the market share because there is nothing else running iOS. If iOS were on different phones like Android is then that ONE phone would not have that claim. If the iPhone was running another operating system then that operating system would be Android's rival. This is a case of the iPhone carrying the iOS, not like Android who carries all the phone manufacturers!
51. iami (unregistered)
TO (someguy ) your just not getting it are you.
it is not pretty incredible that one phone is holding a quarter of the market. If apple was smart they would design more then one model and they would sell more. Only one phone has apple OS which is what everyone is trying to tell people like you. So when you say it correctly that apple OS has one quarter of the market in reality that is pretty lame. Android OS has over 50 percent of the market with the other 15 percent being (dumb Phones).
In moron terms I myself work for a cell store which sells Att-VZW and T-mobile. I sell Iphone and every make android. We avg 50 new phones a month and about a hundred upgrades a month. No lie if ten of them is a Iphone then I sold a lot of iphones that month. Atleast a hundred are android brand.
If you want to compare it to cars like some have. compare it to Mustangs against Camaro-Firebirds of the 80s am\nd 90s. A lot of people will hate me for saying this but people used to say the mustang was the best muscle car between those years. The mustang in reality was garbage. To tiny and the smallest V8 possible and no horsepower. Not even going to bring it that iut was made by Ford. If you looked at numbers yes the Mustang outsold the fire bird or the camaro in a one on one contest. But add the camaro and firebird which where identicle cars with very minor tweaks and diferent company names then there sales together crushed the mustangs. To me that is exactly whats going on with phones today. just like the cars the camaro-firebird had the bigger more advanced everything but came in two diferent models. Now i know the mustangs fanatics who read this will hate me and argue everything under the sun to make there car better again just like apple junkies do with there phone lol.
71. jbash (Posts: 342; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)
amen to that! My stock camaro blows the doors off mustangs.
93. Immolate (unregistered)
What will really be amazing is if Apple has 25% of the market three years from now. I'm betting it will be 10-15%. But three years from now, Apple won't be fighting to retain mobile market share, they'll be fighting to remain relevant in the tablet market they pretty much made relevant.
Fact is that Apple managed to give itself some very strong advantages in the smart phone and tablet markets, but advantages won't keep you at the top if your fundamentals are flawed, and a one-size-fits-all philosophy only appears to about 12% of the population.
72. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
Why did he get thumbs downed? This was by no means a trolling comment.
10. duder (unregistered)
well its one phone vs one phone not one os vs one os this article would day something different is it was ios vs. android but they were very careful not to pit those together
12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
no single phone huh.
Well, the galaxy2 has already smashed iphone4 preorder records and has had over 3 MILLION preorders, and its only been launched in smaller countries like S.Korea. That bests apple's best and it had preorders in much much larger countries like the US.
Apple insider might find itself crying and eating its words when the Galaxy2 is launched world wide.
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You're pathetic. You've waited 4 years for the phone that will beat the iPhone and it hasn't happened. Fanboys answer is always wait until phone xyz comes out.
44. Sniggly (Posts: 7253; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You're the pathetic one. No one Android phone ever has to beat one iPhone model. And you treat sales figures as the determinant of quality. As in best seller=best quality. This dogma of yours belies an ignorance of capitalist history.
13. vishu9 (Posts: 252; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
PhoneArena u guys need to get ur head out of the big Apple's ass! what a worthless article
14. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
every damn android looks the same anyways, yeah they might change minor details, but for the most part, they're pretty much all the same, now yeah, the toyota metaphor might not be the way to go, were talking about smart phones, so thats like saying that the Corvette ZR-1, has outsold cars, thats a retarded statement, however, if you place it against a specific car in the same class, such as the Shelby GT-500KR, then you have more of a matchup, bottom line, the iPhone 4 will, alone, sell out ANY Android powered phone out there, no matter what you fandroids think or wanna believe
27. MalakiMills (Posts: 256; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)
That's everyone's point bro, the iPhone will always outsell any phone, but that is only because if you want ios you only have one option to go to. If you want android you have about 30 options, equaling far less sales per phone, but more sales for the OS. Don't be an idiot.
37. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
I only see 1 idiot here, YOU! Android phones come out about 2 a month, new phones, with new names, with exactly the same crap the previous one had, very minor improvements, nothing big at all, if you want iOS at a cheaper price, you can get a 3Gs, they still have brand new ones at AT&T, you have 2 choices there, sure Android offers many different phones but the way I see it, theres 2 options, Android phones with a physical keyboard, or Android phones with a full touchscreen, theyre all the same though, they all have a back button, a home button, an enter button and a menu button. Honestly, all there is to it is that in the end, iPhone sells more than any other phone out there, hands down
42. SomeGuy (unregistered)
49. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
lol you talk about phones not changing yet your phone has had the same look on its user interface for four years....
you said all phones are the same and android manufacturers make no changes to the interface yet compare the first scene UI with the current sense and all its gesture and ambient based options too, look How Samsung adds many improvements and features to the new touchwizz, Motorola and its new docking system and Sony Ericsson wit its Xperia Play all completely targeting different types of customers.
yes you are right you only two choices either keyboard or touchscreen, guess what, until someone creates a phone that uses air(as in oxygen) or your brain without a really weird cable or helmet manufacturers gonna have to stick with those two options
and you claim android buttons are the same? its the way to navigate thought the system you cant expect them to be changed drastically because it involves changing the way you navigate thought the system and thats not smart
53. iami (unregistered)
Only thing i keep getting from this article and everyones comments is that apple users are dumber then we give them credit for. The point of OS against OS is if android only had one phone it would outsell the Iphone hands down. And if you think that every android phone is a like then no wonder you like the Iphone over any adroid. Have you ever read the stats do i really need to do a pros and cons list for you in how the android will crush a iphone. Even the windows phones are starting to do more then the Iphone. Thats do more not sell more. Honestly if iphone came out with more then one phone a year that did the minor upgrades i would respect the company more. Instead they take the cheap way out and force feed there fans garbage.
As far as all android are the same hmm. Some are 4g some are 3g one difference. Some have 256 ram some have over a gb of ram. Two diferences. Some are dual core some are single.3 Some are with keyboard some not. 4 some are small pocket size some are larger better screen size. 5 List goes on and on and on buddy if you really want me to put the stats of a avg android next to the top of the line iphone you will see the avg android is better quality. have fun with you iphone 5 when it comes out and your being fed lies from Jobs again/
63. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
Lol, that's fine if you like them, honestly they wouldn't outsell iPhones, the reason the phone sells so much is because of the "hype" and rep that the brand has built up over the years, thats the same reason a Chevy Cobalt sells more than a Pontiac G5, because Chevy has made a name for itself, and no, I won't be buying the iPhone 5 as it will feature very minor upgrades, instead, I wanna get the white iPhone 4 and wait for the 6 to come out, I am an Apple fan, I used to work for AppleCare, I have an iMac, MacBook Pro, iPad 2, have had iPhone 3G and 3Gs, and now have a iPhone 4, and I'm happy with em, have had Windows computers and many kinds of phones and I just like the whole sync-ability of the iProducts, I like that everything goes from one device to the other without much problems and the whole easy going flow of the phone itself. Of course, the iPhone is far from perfect, but at the moment, it does everything it does perfect and not half-assed, the way other manufacturers seem to do it, of course, it'll also have its mistakes, like any electronic, but at the moment, its the device I feel is perfect at what it does, and perfect for me lol, guess my username fits me huh?
15. andro (unregistered)
this report totally confirms the idea that society has indeed being dumbed down and there are many idiots outhere under apples control
16. Wowe1234 (unregistered)
Yeah RIGHT!!!! I call Bull!!!! And my mother's a PIXIE!!!!.......
18. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Oh how people try so hard with their wordings to make Apple look superior.
If I were them, I'd just stick to bragging about profits because they don't really have much to brag about.
This just in, Samsung Galaxy S is outselling the 1st generation iPhone.
23. Rich (unregistered)
heres the reason my droid is better than that crappy iphone....
my droid can look like whatever it wants! i made my launcher... background... messaging program... keyboard.... all the iphone ones with the advanced customization...
then i laughed that i was holding an iphone with better specs than a real iphone...
then i laughed again... and changed everything back to the way it was... bc the iphone setup was #%TTY!!!
26. droidalltheway (unregistered)
bossmt_2. Did you take math class? Why wouldn't a previously retail value of over $600.00 iphone 3gs now going for $49.00 outsell a $200.00 android. It's 49.00 now because apple decides to make the iphone 4, that is basically the same phone as the 3gs, still with no flash, and the same user interface since 2007. The buyers are the fanboys who will always follow the iphone not matter what. It's the only interface they know how to use. I was reading one article where the guy bought an android and returned because he said it was too hard to use, and went back to his iphone.
28. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 460; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
dahhhh, when you lower the price of an already overpriced iphone 3gs from a retail of over $600 to $50.00 who wouldn't buy it. dddddaaaaaahhhhhhh
45. SomeGuy (unregistered)
The retail is not $50. That's the two year upgrade price.
29. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 460; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
unregistered users should not be allowed to post comments. it's where cowards express their opinions
36. Wowe1234 (unregistered)
Go buy a hybrid and pay the higher purchase cost and higher insurance, Lower resale value if the economy recovers which Obama is milking from his investments in companies such as GE and the replacement batteries every 2-3 years for about $2000. The GE comment is about all the fake green jobs which if he keeps it up will turn us into Iceland... But Loony Libs don't know anything about economics!!! Most of the Dems are loons and Lawyers. Wait Obama had less experience than Sara... Then again it was about time be elected a BLACK man... I feel like the only black person to have voted with my brain and not for a man because he is black and that is "Racism"....
57. Peter44 (unregistered)
You are Awesome
76. jbash (Posts: 342; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)
i hope you register, you would compliment a few of the other retards that post on here that we get look forward to laughing at daily.
35. IOS5 (unregistered)
Iphone 3GS and iPad 1?! Phone arena those devices already dated!
54. hope (unregistered)
You are so correct. But they still sell better than new android devices. Go figure.
38. obamaalltheway (unregistered)
I usually just read..but wowe1234 you are a coward. A communist arian nation racist punk . And im white and a republican
41. Wowe1234 (unregistered)
I had no idea that a Black man could be a racist and communist. Wait I'm a Black capitalist and Obama is a racist communist but then again... You probably are under educated or are over educated and never work in the real world while having to pay taxes.... Go back to mommy and daddy White boy and vote for another man because he is black too... It might be me... I'm a Conservative Democrat....
46. Wowe1234 (unregistered)
obamaalltheway... Obama is a coward too... Let's just say sorry to all the American haters... You need a back bone to run this country and that's why it's economy is going down fast because he doesn't have one... If I'm such a communist then why do I believe in private business and tax reduction and Obama believes in enlarging the government by having them do the hiring... You must be trying to get one of those new IRS jobs. LOL... His policies are holding black people back by telling black people that they don't have to work as hard as their white counter parts because of the color of their skim to get into college, employment(EEOC) and etc... Now that's the ugly truth....
66. Wowe1234 (unregistered)
The Republican Governor in 2004 really messed things up in MA with Romney Care... There taxes are skyrocketing... There is no forgiveness from idiots like Obama and Romney. The only thing I respect about Romney is he sits in coast on airplanes while Obama gets his feet massaged on Air Force One on my dollar....
52. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Wowe. I think you need to take this someplace else. The "White boy" comment was way out of line and before you go there...yes I am African American, educated, worked in the real world, voted for Obama and sometimes hates some of the things he does but will vote for him again. So I'm pretty much someone you have already determined to hate. But we are just talking about phones here. Can we get back to that please?