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NYT confirms Apple lost Forstall to move forward with an iOS design overhaul

0. phoneArena 01 Nov 2012, 03:43 posted on

It must have irked one of the best designers of our time Jony Ive to no end seeing that when you unlock his industrial metal-and-glass marvel, the iPhone, you get to see iOS the way Scott Forstall envisions it. Faux linen background in the pull-down notification bar, stitched leather notepad...

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posted on 01 Nov 2012, 03:49 20

1. Mohtastic (Posts: 19; Member since: 24 May 2011)


Love this news, ios is due for a giant refresh to be on par with the beautiful hardware

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:26 6

13. MeoCao (unregistered)


skeuomorphism or not? That's garbage discussion.

Tim Cook wants to get rid of Jobs's influence so he would find a way and Ive is a great card for Cook to play to show the "first in line to be CEO" Forstall the exit door.

By the way what iOS lacks is not this style or that style. It's multitasking idiot.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:28 1

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I have been wondering what a new iOS UI would look like. The row of icons is soo 2007. Maybe they do a tiled UI similar to WP? After all, MS's tiled UI goes back to Windows 2.0 that was built under a license from Apple....

Nothing like going retro. GM, Ford and Chrysler did it. Apple can too.

Another UI idea would be to merge the Mac OSX UI? A row of icons on the bottom of the screen that can be flicked left or right?

PA, I just gave you and idea for a new article.... Give me credit if you take the idea and run with it.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:34 1

26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Correction - an idea. Like the edit after posting fix, but maybe 300 seconds?

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:56

32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


One more correction - The grid of icons (in the first paragraph).

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 09:12 5

33. quakan (Posts: 1381; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


Dude, it's okay. I don't think any grammar whores are here today.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 10:18 5

39. Quezdagreat (Posts: 428; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


How come people who don't own a iphone always cry about multitasking. The ios is good with what it has

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 13:45

41. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Because people who spend hundreds of dollars on a smartphone naturally look for reasons to defend their purchase.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 23:19

50. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


My girlfriend, literally today, said "wow, your phone can play Pandora and do other stuff.@

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:45 2

16. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 889; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


How can they possibly simplify something so simple? I would think it needs a little more cool features and makeover to keep up with the competitions constant new features and tech.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:29 3

23. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Eh, I wouldn't say "beautiful hardware". Boring uninspired design taken from other manufacturers, yes, and aesthetically simple, yes, but not beautiful.
But yes, ios could use an update, but I don't think that'll convince the millions of users departing it to come back, and may only keep the non-diehards around a bit longer.

That said, it is difficult to imagine anything new or imaginitive coming from apple with Ive in full control of design. We'll just see more Dieter Rams-inspired shapes, nothing we haven't already been bored with for 5 years. The originals were much better, especially as they were so unique and interesting when they came out so long ago, long before most of us were born.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 09:12 2

34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I actually like the hardware design of the black iP5. I just think a 4 inch screen footprint is too small. And the case is too vulnerable to scratches.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 15:32

46. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Word, -box-.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 15:30

45. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Somebody please ask Phone Arena when they will quit giving Johnny Ives "favors".

For the man's sake, he designed a square with rounded corners, for which ten or more companies designed first, Sony and LG included.

This clown just ripped it off.

You people are so on this guy's lap, it's rediculous.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 17:38

48. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I am a big Android guy, you could say I am anti Apple...But I also think this is a good idea. I also gave this a thumbs up.

I think its time for Apple try to something different with iOS. Didnt they do something different with OS X a few years ago?

I dont consider myself a fanboy, I do agree with some pro Apple posts here n there. Something's in the air tho....cuz I have been agreeing with a few pro Apple posts over the past few days...lol.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 03:51 11

2. Katrina (Posts: 84; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


LOL sorry had to laugh. What ever this guy comes up with its still not as good as sony designers. Go to Japan and learn what design truly is. Pce!!

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:00 5

3. Mohtastic (Posts: 19; Member since: 24 May 2011)


Whats Sony?

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:35 2

14. bipinm (Posts: 124; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


The number 3 smartphone manufacturer from Q2 onwards....

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 17:41 1

49. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


The ppl that bought us the Playstation, PS2 and PS3.

They bought us the Walkman, that lil thing that was out before the iPod that everybody n their grandmother had back in the day.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:19 4

4. ryq24 (Posts: 738; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


japanese phones on paper seems to be very good but once release in the international market, critics tend to give only good to bad reviews. and they don't sell very well, maybe japanese phones are over hype.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:20 2

5. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


The topic is in regard to the OS design not the device. If what you ment was indeed OS?UX design of SONY in my personal opinion it ain't any better than what we see in iOS.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:32 4

7. tedkord (Posts: 12247; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The topic was Jonny Ive taking over, and whether or not this is a good thing. So far, all we've seen from him is hardware design, and the argument is that Sony's hardware is a better design than Apple's (not my argument, his). So, there's no reason to believe his software design will be better. (Again, not my opinion)

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:17

12. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


+1
What we should wait for is what his minimalistic approach would do to iOS.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:33

24. SamsungWillPwnUrAss (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Nov 2012)


Sorry, Katrina. Everybody needs to go to Korea to learn what design truly, truly, truly is.

Apple of America has failed you. Sony of Japan failed you. Bow before the new king--KOREA!

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:22 1

6. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


It'd be interesting as to what degree they'll tweak iOS since I believe simplicity is it's main strenght. I would like to see some kind of different theme to iOS, something like interchangeable themes of some sort. . .

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:56 2

8. kdealltheway (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)


I actualy liked textured design more then "clean" one. There has to be a line before sterility.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 05:46

9. Aeires (unregistered)


"Let my people go!"

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:14

10. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


This was exactly what I was trying to say in another article. Jony Ive is now the overall chief designer of both hardware and software and I can see a very flat iOS interface under him. Tweaks here and there to make things look and feel simpler will put less load on the CPU/GPU so I believe the next iPhone would be even faster (not just because of a faster chip).

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 07:47 2

20. Aeires (unregistered)


Except speed hasn't been the issue(s) with iOS, features and functionality are. A hardware designer isn't going to fix that, only make them look more industrial in appearance.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 08:36

27. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Um, it doesn't take more processing power to draw an image of the same resolution presuming that the access to internal programmed color palettes are equivalent (and I see no reason they wouldn't be). Now if it were drawing a low-res image, yes, that would speed up the load/draw time somewhat, but not hugely so. But that would be the rough equivalent to the differences between something made in MIcrosoft Paint versus Adobe Photoshop.

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