NVIDIA shows off the new Tegra 4 processor
0. phoneArena 07 Jan 2013, 00:13 posted on
The new Tegra 4 will feature an amazing 72 GeForce GPU cores with 4K video support, which is about 6 times the visual processing power of the current Tegra 3. It will also feature a quad-core ARM Cortex A15 processor and a second generation battery saver core. Unlike the 40nm manufacturing process on the Tegra 3, the Tegra 4 will be at 28nm, and support PRISM 2 technology for less power used by the backlight. All of this will allow for 45% better power management and lower heat compared to the Tegra 3.
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1. chrischau1308 (Posts: 53; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
I want to see this processor on the Motorola Nexus X Phone
7. MeoCao (unregistered)
This beast is amazing. I think nothing at the moment comes close.
I'm sure HTC will be the 1st phone to use the chip, same as Tegra 3.
10. Captain_Doug (Posts: 753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Ideally, the M7. Probably coming out too soon though. Just another of my "probably won't be fulfilled" dreams.
79. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M FALLING BECAUSE OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO SEXY, YO!!!!!!!!!!
59. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
m7 for sure. maybe on MWC. This phone is just, insane!
69. Tegra_user (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)
Noob do you even know what is GeForce core. Ever heard of Kepler,Physics, Cuda, Directx . Its funny to see Samsung fanboys worshiping nvidia.
72. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1998; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Yeah , but they'll pack 16gb storage & at maximum a 2100 mAh battery 2 screw the phone up -_- !
20. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
By the time the Motorola Nexus X phone becomes a reality, we will most likely see a quad-core Exynos A15 processor with a Mali-T658 GPU which may or may not be better than a Tegra 4 (who knows at this point?). I will hand it to nVidia for creating a stellar chipset that I hope makes it's way to, at least, tablet PCs soon. I also want to see this demo of the new Dead Trigger 2 to see how the Tegra 4 performs on graphics.
Also, I'm very excited for the nVidia Shield:
But, as usual, 2013 is going to be the year of "the king is dead, long live the king" as each new processor comes out.
38. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
exactly......the only sense to me: Nexus....
otherwise stick with replaceable battery with Galaxy Nexus....only this Nexus I can use as a real smartphone (navigation, internet, camera) a whole day with a spare battery...
please, Google, think a little about usefulness of any smartphone :)
71. HTCOE (Posts: 467; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
Moto Nexus may be the phone to have of the year in my opinion
2. Birds (Posts: 982; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Project Shield is what I'm most excited about...
11. dickwyn (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 May 2012)
yep, i'm super excited about it. hope the price isnt skyrocket high
15. mittalmailbox (Posts: 40; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
i guess NVIDIA prices are affordable(taking $200 Tegra3 powered tablet) so hope for the same
3. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Now I badly want to see a Tegra4 vs S4Pro benchmark comparison.
8. Captain_Doug (Posts: 753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I want to see the power usage. Performance wise, I'm good. I couldn't use the amount of power provided by a quad A9 processor let alone a quad A15. I want to know how well this will do in a battery test vs current processors.
18. MeoCao (unregistered)
A15 is not light on battery so if you play games a lot it will not be good I guess, But if you mainly do the reading, surf the net then surely there's no problem.
25. Retro-touch (Posts: 257; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
I also saw reports of the same, A15 is crazy fast but its battery consumption is high, basically like a muscle car tons of raw power
28. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
The only quote I could find from nVidia about real-world battery power was this:
"Tegra 4 consumes up to 45 percent less power than its predecessor, Tegra 3, in common use cases. And it enables up to 14 hours of HD video playback on phones."
Now, it doesn't exactly say what the size of the battery is on the phone they used in their quote, so it's one of those "take them at their word" situations.
12. MeoCao (unregistered)
32nm A15 dual core Exynos 5250 of Nexus 10 is on par with Pro in term of power.
This 1 is quadcore A15, 28nm technology, 72 gpu.
There's no comparison actually
16. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
good break down bro.........This is the chip i been waiting for :)
but what about the quadcore Exynos 5250?
19. MeoCao (unregistered)
5250 will be used on SS tablets possibly as it's power hungry. Tegra 4 will be used for phones mainly initially as I think they can't make a lot of them yet.
Later Tegra 4 will be used mainly for tablets, same model as Tegra 3.
21. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
what i meant was which is more powerful the "quadcore" exynos, the tegra 4, or the quadcore S4 krait?
22. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it'll definitely be between the Tegra 4 and the Quad Exynos 5. now this is why i disliked Qualcomm in the first place. they get their SoC's out quick so they're pretty exciting until something like this comes out and completely overshadows the work that's supposed to carry them through a while longer...they've just gone back to Crapdragon status.
26. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
haha yea you're right bro but does that mean the S4 is "crapdragon" just because something more powerful has come along? Id like to think it served its purpose and will continue to serve its purpose for a while.....Look at how successful its been by being in almost every phone AND tablet using the S4! and remember these chips are beyond what we actually "need" as of now so the tegra and exynos might be slighty better but actual usage for them may be little to none, AS OF NOW :)
30. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i didn't mean the S4 which you're right about btw, just the Pro which has just recently started trickling out in devices like the Optimus G, the Nexus 4 and the Droid DNA. i'm afraid devices are going to be coming out very soon that these won't be able to compare to during what was supposed to be their prime. it's looking like the Sony Xperia Z may bring us the Exynos 5 Quad in just a few days to make matters worse for power junkies that just got one of the devices i mentioned.
33. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Wait, I'm sorry I couldn't understand that last sentence...are you suggesting the Xperia Z will feature a quad-core Exynos 5 series? I haven't heard that one yet.
37. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, that's something that's on the rumor mill. o:
55. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Didn't the benchmarks prove that it would be an S4 Pro with Adreno 320 GPU just like the Droid DNA?
76. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i haven't heard that. just the Quad Exynos 5 rumor. o:
34. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
well it was my mistake by only putting the S4 when i meant the S4 pro. And you say the Z is supposed to have the quad Exynos?? hmmm wow i must of missed that one :)
and yea it seems like things are speeding up but if things do decide to speed up then we are either going to have to "find" things for these chips to be of use or pretty much just play the "Im faster than you in benchmarks game" ......know what i mean?
39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, we really have crossed a threshold in mobile processing power that makes all of this a little less important than it used to be. people are going to be just fine with S4's & S4 Pro's but i still always want just a little more... ;)
41. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
of course i mean its cool to see them innovate and show us what they can come up with to actually use these powerful chipsets........
Ive actually been waiting on the tegra 4 the most because i wanted to see how games would grow with this chip
But one more thing I noticed the article said somthing about it not haveing LTE?? I wonder if that will make it get shunned a bit.......because you know how picky some people are if the WHOLE package isnt there
lol jus sayin
43. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, you should see what they're talking about with Project Shield and Steam's Big Picture. looks like promising stuff. o:
oh this bad boy has an integrated LTE radio and manufacturers can add an optional modem to add a boost to the Tegra 4's data processing power. it's the whole package and then some.
45. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
haha thanks bro can always count on you for good honest info :)
35. MeoCao (unregistered)
isn't S4 Pro 28nm Krait quadcore?
Qualcomm should use better architecture than current Krait.
I think the power of mobile chips is far from enough, look at the difference btn PC and mobile gaming.
And mobile photography also demands huge processing power as NVidia showed, and there will be new technologies that take advantage of the new power.
40. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
true and i meant to put the S4 pro sorry about that
Also does mobile photography require more than what the S4 pro Krait can deliver??
Or is it a matter of how smooth and well it can deliver?
just some questions :)
44. MeoCao (unregistered)
The key of mobile photography is taking multiple shots with different exposure, focus.. and process them into 1 final pictures, so the more powerful the processing, the better quality we have. Smoothness and how fast you get the picture is certainly a factor too.
i'm not sure if there's limit to it but the current cpus are surely not enough.
46. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2433; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
thanks for the info tegra 4 sounds good to go then :)
29. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Anything beyond the S4Pro chipset's performance to power consumption ratio will be awesome. I hope the Tegra4 and the Quad Exynos5 could deliver spectacular results.
63. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
But the SGX554 on the iPad4 Gpu beats this, T4 has 72Gpu and Six554 has 4Gpu, so imagine having 72SGX 554 doesn't no way stand a chance. When it comes to graphics nothing touches the PVR.
14. Igneel (unregistered)
S4 pro is 6 months old already.
23. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yet devices with it have just recently hit the market while the first commercial Tegra 4 device(s) will likely rear it's head at CES in the coming days.
77. mittalmailbox (Posts: 40; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Situation is more life last year, Tegra 4 will rule the market for 4-5 Month and then Qualcomm 800 will overtake it(same as Tegra 3 and Qualcomm Krait Quad core last year)
4. Captain_Doug (Posts: 753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
In the 4th paragraph, you didn't mention that they were loading 25 web pages.
5. mittalmailbox (Posts: 40; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Why they didn't added Qualcomm quad core Krait in comparison list. It would be great if it uses lesser power than Qualcomm S4.
And an integrated cellular modem should have made it even better,
60. faisolbauuz (Posts: 121; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)
Htc droid dna are using snapdrogon s4 pro its on the list
42. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1339; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Talk about wetting me pants in the morning ...this is a beast
13. Xperia42 (Posts: 60; Member since: 30 May 2012)
Can't wait to see how Terga 4 performances in graphics
17. imkyle (Posts: 982; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
This will give the 1.5ghz S4 pro quad core a run for its money. Looking forward to seeing what device will get this first... Asus tablet or an HTC phone.....
24. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i'm most curious about the Graphic's performance but i'm pretty impressed right now, not nearly surprised but impressed none the less. now that an SoC like the Tegra 4 is here i'm kind of glad that i haven't gotten a Nexus 10 yet. o:
62. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4000; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I was just about to buy the Nexus 10, too. Now I'm hesitant. I'm thinking of waiting until Google I/O when they will probably announce a Motorola Nexus phone and tablet. The phone I can already expect to be great, but I'm really looking at that tablet.
The only Motorola tablet I've had time with was the Xyboard 10.1, and I really enjoyed it a lot, I can only imagine what their Nexus tablet will bring.
I'm thinking of getting the Nexus 4, passing on the 10, and waiting for the Motorola Nexus tablet. Should I pass on the Nexus 4 as well and get the Moto phone when it comes out?
74. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5589; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, that's what i'm thinking too. i actually owned the Xyboard 8.2 and i really liked that Tablet. give me a Xyboard 8.2 with NFC, a Tegra 4 and a better display and i'll be happy but fortunately that seems to be the least we should expect from the Googlerola Tablet.
well being that the Nexus 4 is so cheap on contract there's not really much consequence other than being out of $300 but being that it's a Nexus it should hold a pretty good resale value between now and I/O especially if there's a new version of Android announced, that's when Nexus values spike on the market and depending on how well you take care of it you should be able to get like $200-$250 for it. so really it's up to you if you think eating the $50 and the price of shipping and perhaps a case is worth carrying you through to Google I/O and then of course the Motorola unveiling is just a rumor. o:
27. nard0207 (Posts: 18; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
Tegra 4 + Jelly Bean/Key Lime Pie!
I hope HTC would be the first manufacturer to release a Tegra 4 powered device. They should also add software goodies, just like what Samsung did in the S3 (smart stay, pop-up play etc.), in order for their new device to be successful.
31. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
You forgot "BIG" Battery (2500mAh+), if they could add that to their next flagship phone then there's no liking them anymore. . .