NVIDIA Tegra 4 beats Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 in benchmark tests
0. phoneArena 24 Feb 2013, 17:28 posted on
Based on a series of benchmark tests, the NVIDIA Tegra 4 beats the Qualcomm Snapdragon 600, the chip expected to power the HTC One, LG Optimus G and is rumored to power up the Samsung Galaxy S III; an earlier test of the Tegra 4 from back inb January showed that it could not out score the A6X processor used on the fourth-generation Apple iPad...
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7. yowanvista (Posts: 339; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
There is a limit to what can be done to silicon to optimize power consumption, cramming more transistors in a smaller area does offer a certain level of reduced energy usage but that's not going to provide any significant changes. The real problem in virtually all smart devices is simply battery technology which hasn't really improved since the last decade. Yeah any manufacturer can use lithium-ion/polymer batteries with larger capacities but that doesn't solve the problems of a stagnating battery technology which bottlenecks every single device. Battery life won't really improve unless battery technology moves forward. Research is still going on but application in consumer electronics won't happen anytime soon.
8. imsickwithsmartphone (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Here I come Tegra4, bring it on.......
11. wp8forever (unregistered)
I can tell , you forgot about the snapdragon 800 lol
32. mew7946510 (Posts: 55; Member since: 10 Nov 2010)
Please keep in mind that Snapdragon 600 is not Qualcomm's flagship but Snapdragon 800. It can be quite normal for other manufacturer's flagship products to beat it's competitor's lower-end products.
17. drpain (Posts: 85; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
lol who would downvote good battery life
sounds like ignorant haterz
2. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1807; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
I think there will be a point when we think speed isn't everything anymore. But right now it's awesome to see when a new CPU comes out. However, I think my nexus 4 is so freaky smooth and I have yet to see it lag a bit st all :)
13. wp8forever (unregistered)
My friend i got me a nexus 4 , and i tell you what for gaming is the biggest crap ever im selling it now , imma get the htc one , this phone has a problem, with the thermal throttling , when it gets hot start lagging cuz it dropps frames drastically, other wise if you're not gaming is super smooth.
33. GhostBear (Posts: 25; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
The throttling temps and ranges can be modified in the thermald.conf file under the batt_therm settings.
30. wendygarett (unregistered)
I couldn't agree more, android is already awesome enough to run any chips device :)
45. Firedrops (Posts: 221; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
I felt exactly the same with my T3 One X; it does everything blazingly fast and smooth.
Except nds and psp emulators. Can't even get half the fps of Snapdragon S4 Pro or Exynos 4412 and newer SoCs ):
3. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
And the Snapdragon 800 will be the top Smartphone Processor while the Quad-Core Intel Atom Bay Trail will be the top Tablet Processor
4. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
36 500 on Antutu is some 10-12 000 points more than the best of the rest.
And you call that beating?
I call it ANNIHILATING
5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2148; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
No surprise, the 600 is Qualcomm's "midranger", the 800 is the real deal. Wonder about power consumption though. I'm pretty sure Sammy could throw the Exynos 5 Octa in running at 2GHz and crush benchmarks, yet it's not gonna be used anytime soon due to draaaainage. Simply put, once multi-tasking is fluid it should be all about energy saving not breaking records, cause something that doesn't lag can't lag less, now can it?
10. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Doing some math.. even with a 75 % increase of CPU power and 50% GPU compared to S4 pro, Snapdragon 800 shouldn't top these scores.
They're around 100% better than anything else currently on the market
20. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Exactly right man. Its all about the battery life from here on out.
29. Equilibrium (Posts: 18; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
The S4 Pro was considered high end and the 600 is an improvement so no, it is their powerhouse for the first half of this year.
The 800 has not been released yet, neither has the Tegra 4 or Exynos 5 so thats a more valid observation.
Fun to see all the Tegra haters trying to justify these results though:)
People will always want a faster device to play games with and to be productive with. As the OS evolves a device that currently is smooth as butter will be left behind, RAM and storage all play a part in this.
Pretty much the reason the Nexus One couldn't get ICS, but the Nexus S could.
Laptops have a battery life of around 4-6 hrs with moderate to heavy use in general, so I don't really see phones changing the trend of one day battery life anytime soon.
Its the battery tech that needs a huge jump, the chips used now are lower power consumption than ever without sacrificing performance.
6. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Oh and geekbench?
I said I expect best ARM chips to break 4000 this year.. Tegra 4 just crossed it.
That's the score of some Intel core machines out there.. this could push midrange desktops easily!
And with no hyper threading and relatively low memory bandwidth with just 1Mb L2 cache on 32 bit code.. when ARM A60 sorts this all out, I see the fight being on on all computing fronts!
9. nikenturd (unregistered)
I'll actually believe it when production Tegra 4 units beats the Snapdragon....Nvidia is a master of hype and if it indeed delivers I might actually get one....right now Qualcomm is still king
14. vandroid (Posts: 323; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
People should really wait for snapdragon 800 devices
15. imkyle (Posts: 1048; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Congrats to Nvidia but I'm still verry happy with my Nexus 4.
16. rgxVOiD (Posts: 437; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
and according to the pro-technologist, HTC One is now inferior because of this chip even though it was launched a couple of days ago
28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4170; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
No, the One will be inferior when a phone with Tegra 4 is actually released. A faster processor doesn't mean much when there isn't any devices with it on the market.
18. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Who cares really. Even the S4 Pro thats currently on the market is 100% smooth and snappy. My Optimus G is stuck on ICS but I cant even notice. Less power, more battery life please.
19. yowanvista (Posts: 339; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Benchmark results do not necessarily translate into real life performance. The HTC One for instance lags a bit. (Check the Neowin hands on). You can very easily tune your software to work flawlessly on a single core device, that's precisely what WP us doing and yet the performance is top notch even if the SoC scores lower in benchmarks. It's pointless to have so much beefier SoCs when the software in question (Android) will never take advantage of the additional power. The Dalvik VM wasn't even optimized for multicore SoCs nor does it even support multithreading and Google hasn't yet found a way to improve their VM. Manufacturers just release new SoCs to assure their dominance. It's just about scores obtained by putting the hardware to stress under very specific conditions and obtaining a result based on how the chip reacted. No single chip is designed to react to the same conditions, each has slight differences so those numbers are irrelevant.
22. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5685; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
this lines up with what i've been saying, the T4 is no pushover. it positions itself right in between the Snapdragon 600 and 800 quite comfortably. the T4 is what i'll want in my next phone meaning i hope that's what Moto has in mind for the X.
34. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4170; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yeah, now that "power" is a null statement, you should take the chip with more actual features rather than the one with more power. Yes, the numerical performance of these chips will be stellar, but the daily performance will be negligible and perfectly smooth.
38. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1310; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I don't know why everyone believes the "Chief Marketing Officer" from Qualcomm when he says that 800 will be better than Tegra4...
He also said: "we believe our Snapdragon 600 outperforms Nvidia’s Tegra 4" which is obviosly false.
My expectations is that Krait 400 will fall a bit short of the A15.
39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5685; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
we'll see but i wouldn't underestimate the strides Qualcomm has made with their Krait architecture. those guys have been full of surprises lately. Qualcomm shouldn't underestimate Nvidia either though. they know what they're doing too.
23. babyk (Posts: 260; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
theres no way snapdragon 600 would have beaten tegra 4. So we saw that coming already. Snapdragon 800 will be beaten as well. Just hope nvidia will fix their heat issues and give me a 5 inch 1080p with HTC and good battery life and I'm good 32 or 64 gb memory
24. Taters (Posts: 4631; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Interesting. Crazy benchmarks, some higher than a Core 2 Duo. I find it hard to believe though. I know Qualcomm is not the most unbiased source but they said the Tegra 4 was nothing special and was very similar to the S4 pro. Trash talking yet but if the Tegra 4 really is this beastly, that Qualcomm guy is an idiot for opening his mouth about it.
25. hung2900 (Posts: 881; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
The geekbench is close to intel core i3 2467M
26. omar300 (Posts: 209; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)
i just want the best battery life processor. im expecting alot from snapdragon. i hope it delivers. nvidia and exynos have always been about gaming so im not really interested in those. those look good in tablet only.
27. dermit88 (Posts: 17; Member since: 19 Dec 2012)
Give me a 8 core Krait chip with 6 A7s at 1.2 ghz and 2 A15s at 2 ghz. Now give me a quad core Kepler GPU and a 6,600 maH graphite battery. Make the A15s be smart and only kick on for games and web browsing. 4 Gigs of ram, loud speakers to shut up the Apple douches7mm thickness and with a military inspired Moto look, stock KLP running the show on an edge to edge 4.7 inch 1080p screen, and you will have my money in your pockets
37. omarr (banned) (Posts: 149; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)
This is a laptop not a phone right ?
31. nikenturd (unregistered)
Remember when the Tegra 3 didnt live up to the hype? Im seeing the same story here...thats why Asus, HTC, Sony and the rest of the pack are reluctant to use the Tegra 4 in their devices....Nvidia fans, dont rejoice just yet until we actually see production samples.
35. Tux_Alan (Posts: 74; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
Hoping to see this chip in the nexus 7.7 in may, serioisly eyeing that small tablet.
36. legend1 (Posts: 104; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
hahaha this i didn't expect well done nvidia
40. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
Thing is that tegra 4 was defeated in Graphics department by A6X only and snapdragon 600 is not the flagship, the flagship is 800 so it should be 800 vs tegra 4!
42. MrPhilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
No. The Tegra 4 Produces 57fps while the Apple A6X produces 52fps. Go to Anandtech for more information.
Tegra 4 is a great SoC, its a hybrid. It will be on "Smart phones & Tablet" with a GPU power better than the A6X. Along with its size 80mm2 (Tegra 4) vs 110mm2+ (A6X).
People saying Exynos Octa will perform better, no it won't, they use the god damn same CPU (+4xA7) only a higher clock will but its clocked the same.
41. Assa7inKing (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)
Dammmmmm !!! WTH !!! WTH !!! 35,000+ Man !! Are They crazy ?
43. babyk (Posts: 260; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
The problem has always been about heat and battery life. Tegra 4 octa or even snapdragon they all can deliver extreme performance on any mobile device that can beat a6x.
44. mikegonzalez2k (Posts: 5; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Do a fair comparison, the Snapdragon 600 was the same generation as the Tegra 3, and it was 2.5x faster than Tegra3. That being said the it is biased to compare Tegra4 with the 600. Of course it's better than the 600, it better be or it's crap. The only fair comparison would be against the Snapdragon 800 which is the same generation. Otherwise you're comparing with last year's performance.