NSA's PRISM reported to gather data from Google, Facebook, Apple and more, but all deny involvement
0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2013, 20:12 posted on
Get ready for a whole heap of news coming on the National Security Agency's PRISM program, because it looks like Verizon may have just been the tip of the iceberg. A new report from the Washington Post is saying that a number of other high profile companies all allowing the government direct access to their data, including Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, and Yahoo. Although, all of those companies have already come out to deny the allegations...
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1. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1023; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
What's sad is that even the people who read articles like this will still go out and vote for the politicians that put such programs in place (and I am talking about both sides of the aisle). As the Star Wars quote goes: "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."
5. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
I dont think voting any side will make a difference, given how America's government now basically is doing whatever they want to curb terrorism.
8. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1023; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
That is why I said the problem exists on both sides. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is like the difference between Sierra Mist and Sprite. They may seem different but deep down they have very many similarities. As long as they use fear, they can do whatever they want. At some point, people have to wake up and realize what is actually going on.
12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Every one of the named companies are submitting to the court order(s). They would be shut down if they refused a valid court order. The difference between W and Barry is that Barry uses courts to provide a fig leaf of legitimacy.
Sorry, but that is just the way that it is. You didn't really think there was a 4th Ammendment to the US Constitution, now did you? Certainly not after DNA can be taken upon a valid arrest, eh?
18. madpiyal (Posts: 108; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Droid_X, that's the same thing I have said previously to Mr. Michel that for the sake of their survival Google will trade our private and sensitive data to govt. But he didn't believe me then but I hope he is a reasonable man and certainly will reconsider our point after this incident.
2. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
You know, I could give a rat's a$$ if, in this case, Big Brotha' is listening!!
In fact, I hope he is listening or reading this confidential communiqué between my person and PhoneArena because, IMHO (as protected by the 1st Amendment), I think Bam-Bam is a boney toothpick with ears as big as Dumbo Will Smith impersonator who thinks he can play basketball but he really can't. If he wasn't so busy sucking up to Beyoncé and JayZ he would have more time to fight with the Tea Party (whoops, I went and said Tea Party, hope I don't get audited)!!
Take that and stuff it up your listening tube!!!!
3. lsutigers (Posts: 816; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)
Well the federal government has a huge surveillance system called DCSNet (FBI Digital Collection System Network). It can intercept/wiretap any phone call, landline or wireless on any carrier and/or text message at any given time. It's run by Sprint for the gov't on a dedicated fiber backbone network. Not sure if this is what the article is referring to but it sure sounds like it.
4. JerzeySniper (Posts: 22; Member since: 21 Mar 2011)
This is an outrage an clearly the powers that be are turning there backs on the fundamental values of this once great proud and virtuous country.
Ultimately the blame rest on us...the average American citizen. ..we allowed these legal traitorous immortal politicians, companies and public officials to sell our rights to life liberty and pursuit of happiness to the highest bidder an bully us into a so called patriot act that allows our government that we continue to allow to destroy this country a blank check to infringe on our rights. Yes it is very true that the tree of liberty must be refreshed by the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time. ....if we pushed back demanded those traitors be held responsible and punished an fight for our for our inalienable freedoms restored to us then I will once again feel this country has regained its balls.
6. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
The America government watched your sex tape, they know how many times you masturbate in a week, knows that you are cheating on your spouse from your message and emails, they know that you badmouthed your boss, they know what color your underwear is right now...
What i watched in movies, such as Eagle Eye, the same thing probably has been going on for years.
All i can say, good luck and god bless you guys.
7. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
*shrugs* this does not bother me gather intel from MILGOV and the various alphabet agencies are nothing new to me. corporations have been gather data as well regarding are habits and such. it's a fact of life and face we have to live with it. no amount of changes to CIV and FED GOV would change anything. you people might want to research the neolithic revolution and how it changed H. sapien
9. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
I couldnt be bothered, when someone tells me not to use this or that because your privacy is compromised. My Facebook account has pretty much almost everything set on public, except phone number. The world knows my birth date, sees what i post, sees my photos. My question is: SO WHAT? Im neither a terrorist nor have anything to hide.
On my emails, you wont see anything important or confidential either. Nothing to see in my emails i receive including those regarding online shopping sprees. In fact i wont mind my family members seeing my emails. If you bitch about privacy so much, not use the internet at all. Nothing is safe online.
10. axllebeer (Posts: 270; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
As I said in the follow up to this article, Its news like this that make me wish I could unplug from the whole system, but its hard nowadays. Nothing is safe. I know there is a need to track things like this for the sake of national security, but I have issues with it. Do I have anything to hide, no. But am I bothered that big brother is watching us all, yes.
11. jroc74 (Posts: 5652; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This is classified Top Secret and some other stuff..highly classified. Whoever is behind this leak is in a world of trouble. Not talking about it being right or wrong...just that as a person with access to this type of info....this should have never been leaked.
Now.....look at the list of companies on there.....there cannot be any fanboy wars about this. Maybe BB fans can gloat...lol.
13. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
I don't see how this is classified information. If operators were exposed it would constitute a leak. A release on alphabet soup agencies and various intel houses conducting intel on civilians via civilian companies is nothing
14. madpiyal (Posts: 108; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
So even the Americans are watched too. Few days ago I argued why we shouldn't trust Google with our private data. And my main point was we should not trust Google because it provides our private data to govt time to time. And I also said its just a matter of time when for the sake of survival they will trade in our private information to govt. which is a major violation to our privacy and freedom. Till now when Director of NSA admits they are collecting sensitive private data through PRISM, Companies like Google are simply denying that fact which is a big lie brought to you by these so called trusted companies. "We have never heard of PRISM. We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers."-- this is how Apple are repaying their customer by telling lies in their faces (though I think you should blame Tim Cooks reign for this breach).
This is completely unethical and this kind of practices should be stopped at any cost by the rest of the world.
15. protozeloz (Posts: 5392; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
What's interesting is that you only mention Google in your post when Google is one of the companies involved, as you can see nearly all of the most used services around the world seem to be at it and yet you complain about Google's statement when all of them denied the information, bias too much?
17. madpiyal (Posts: 108; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
I think you haven't read my full comment properly. I have also mentioned Apple. I was backing my point why we shouldn't trust Google so mentioning its name was natural. And I am always against every company( and you should also be concerned) which takes too much information than needed and stores them. But I cant blame Facebook for holding on to our data because they are not seeking it but we are deliberately giving our private data to them. But I hate the fact that Google, Microsoft and Yahoo keeps our data for their business purposes and are also inventing new ways to get more personal data from us which we normally knowingly might not have given them the permission to keep.
Being a Google fan is not a bad thing. But when a company crosses their limit even if you are a fan you should not back them, specially when it comes to your privacy and freedom.
16. Scorpion (Posts: 103; Member since: 28 Apr 2012)
All of them said that they "don't provide direct access". So they provide it indirectly as required, the end result is the same. My American freinds, did you really think that the most powerfull security appartuss in the world, wouldn't spy on their own citizens? If only because they can?
The best way to keep a secret is in your head, not in the cloud. Put your dirty photos there, NSA operators don't really care, too much work.
19. a_tumiwa (Posts: 373; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
i will back to use Symbian phone and Linux >_