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NSA phone spying unconstitutional says Federal Judge

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NSA phone spying unconstitutional says Federal Judge
A federal court judge has ruled that the NSA program that spied on U.S. phone calls was unconstitutional, infringing on the privacy rights of U.S. citizens. U.S. Judge Richard Leon ruled in favor of four plaintiffs who were challenging the NSA, and stressed that his decision applied to their case only. The judge said that the plaintiffs would probably be victorious in challenging the NSA on fourth amendment grounds.

With the U.S. most likely to appeal the ruling, Judge Leon held off from banning the practice. The information collected by the NSA shows phone numbers and the elapsed time of these calls without revealing the content of them. Earlier this year, the NSA admitted to receiving metadata from companies like Verizon, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo and Facebook.

After the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the U.S., the Patriot Act was rushed through Congress and signed by President George Bush. The law allowed for the expanded  reach of agencies like the NSA in the name of national security, but rulings such as the one made today by Judge Leon might be the start of reducing the expanded activities allowed under the Patriot Act.

source: CNN

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posted on 16 Dec 2013, 15:44 2

1. PK1983 (Posts: 166; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


The Patriot Act was rushed through congress with almost total Democratic and Republican support. The Affordable Care Act was rushed through Congress the same way, only this time the Republicans said not.

Both are evil laws that are taking away our freedom and destroying this country.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 16:10

3. a_merryman (Posts: 641; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


...right ;)

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 17:43 1

7. rallyguy (Posts: 533; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


This really doesn't involve the Patriot Act. This issue the administration's twisted interpretation of the PA. This is a no brainer. It's with no doubt that this is a violation.

Also Republicans just barely supported it enough to be voted on. Republicans did not vote in favor it the ACA. But you are right, with few exceptions, both parties are currupt.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 19:00

8. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


I've voted socialist since the passing of the Patriot act. Id rather be bombed every week than willingly give up my freedoms. Take a personal stand with your vote. It DOES mean something.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 08:39

13. rallyguy (Posts: 533; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


If you want freedom why vote socialist? We have had 5 years of socialist type government and look what it has brought us. Among other things, less freedom, and a Constitution that isn't followed.
If you want freedom the vote should be for a conservative or libertarian.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 10:00 1

15. Augustine (Posts: 678; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


Because voting conservative brought America the Patriot Act, Medicare Title X and bailouts (AKA socialization of losses). Really, only voters imagine that there is a difference between Republicans and Democrats.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 16:14

16. rallyguy (Posts: 533; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


Nope, conservativism didn't bring any of those things.
I think it's more obvious now with the deep divide in the Republican party, but conservatives helped win the house in 2010, not Republicans. There are only a few true conservatives in office. Please don't confuse Conservatives and Republicans, they are very different.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 00:23

12. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 847; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


So your comparing the violation of privacy on the same level as providing healthcare for people..

Besides the point, I agree with you about the Patriot Act. It was a rushed bill that played on the fears right after 911. It should have been taken off the books a long time ago.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 08:42 1

14. rallyguy (Posts: 533; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


The patriot act was just renewed last year. How did that play on the fears of 9/11? The orginal yes, and yes should be removed.

I think he made the comparison like his last line said. They are both unconstitutional laws. And I tend to agree that the ACA might be just as bad.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 21:42

17. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 847; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


I was referring to the original passing of the bill. This time around it was Obama breaking yet another promise to the voters.

The ACA has a lot of possibilities of helping more than it hurts (even though I'm not in complete agreement with some parts of the law). Healthcare is as much as a necessity as public education. The current system does not work and there needs to be change. However, I'm hoping it might be one of the few good things that Obama accomplished during his presidency so let's give it a chance once it's actually up and running.

Also referring to a previous comment you made. We have not been living in socialism or socialist ideals for 5 years. If that were the case we would have had a good form of government healthcare like Canada and most 1st world countries have. Instead we have been living in a country of poor leadership and the worst/ most dysfunctional Congress in US history.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 15:49

2. Augustine (Posts: 678; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


Talk is as cheap as a judge suspending his own court order.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 19:38

9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5605; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


All the judge did was to suspend the order pending appeal. That is usual in this tyoe of case. If he hadn't stayed the order, a stay would have been granted by the D.C. Circuit Court.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 16:30 2

4. ZeroCide (Posts: 683; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


It takes a judge to say what EVERYONE has known all along. Glad too see they are on top of this one.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 16:45 1

5. newuser1 (Posts: 99; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


ok. but they will never now stop it.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 19:49 3

10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5605; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Even if this one program is stopped, there are multiple others that are still running fine and blessed by the FISA court. As Snowden stated after the ruling (I am paraphrasing) - A secret program that had been approved by a secret court when exposed to the light of day was found to not be legal.

Enough of this secret sh*t!

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 17:11 3

6. papss (unregistered)


Effing NSA. I find their actions sickening and pathetic.

posted on 16 Dec 2013, 19:52 2

11. ZombieHunter (Posts: 18; Member since: 13 Oct 2013)


.....and then they all went back to the Judges chambers and had a great laugh.....

posted on 04 Aug 2014, 09:59

18. Sarah434 (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Aug 2014)


they will never now stop

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