NSA Whistle-Blower Snowden charged in NSA surveillance case
0. phoneArena 21 Jun 2013, 21:21 posted on
The U.S. Justice Department has asked Hong Kong officials to detain NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden after sealed criminal charges against him were filed; one anonymous source said that the charges filed were for espionage, theft and conversion of government property. The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia, home to Snowden's former employer, Booz Allen Hamilton...
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3. Zero0 (Posts: 561; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
More or less what I thought would happen once he revealed himself.
Wondering if there's any way he can counter the charges. Surely the utter destruction of constitutional liberties has to have some kind of criminal consequence...
5. milesboy5 (Posts: 126; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
That's what I've been wondering...
If he could find some loophole as to where this can be proven to be more unconstitutional than beneficial then he has a case against the gov't but if not then he f'ed
8. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5289; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Kind of hard to counter the charges in open court when everything about the program is top secret sensitive compartmented information. If Snowden is rendered (er, extradited), he will be the last prisoner in Gitmo that keeps it from being closed. Even after all of the Taliban have been repatriated back to Afghanistan.
19. newuser1 (Posts: 74; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
once you reveal your identity in this kind thing. either get killed or get life time jail. spend rest of life in jail is worse than get killed. feel sad for him.
22. Zero0 (Posts: 561; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Revealing himself was probably the better move. The media now has a better idea of what's happening to him. If he gets killed, people will get mad.
13. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1225; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
atleast his car didnt hit a tree and explode
17. joey_sfb (Posts: 1976; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
what is right or wrong is a matter of perspectives. he signed a non disclosure and break it that is real. he has proven himself not trustworthy.
23. JEverettnow (Posts: 139; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
Our government has proven itself not trustworthy. He saw huge injustices happening and did something about it. He saw our government no longer being a democracy, but more or less using Machiavellian tactics to put itself in a huge position of power. Even more so than it has already had. Someone had to do it.
25. joey_sfb (Posts: 1976; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
by being just as untrustworthy. which country does not have secret. timely information it's what keep the country from enemy attack and I believe America has its fair share of both domestic and international threat.
2. aditya.k (Posts: 410; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
Its okay for govt to look into our things without telling anybody but should punish those who do the opposite! Its not a big thing! It has been there for a while now.
4. VZWuser76 (Posts: 986; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
So it's a criminal act to let innocent until proven guilty people know that the government is going through their personal data. What happened to a government by the people for the people? Now it's more like by the few against the many. Maybe Canada wouldn't be so bad after all.
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5289; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The 4th amendment to ceased to exist shortly after 9/11. Dick Cheney made sure of that. Barry has just got the judiciary to give the Good Housekeeping seal of approval to vacuuming up electronic comms. The fig leaf that makes everything 'legal' is that no conversations are listened to without a warrant. Emails, attachments, SMS, metadata from the calls are all open season to track.
9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5289; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
the U.S. Constitution Sorry, but can't edit after 240 seconds... :-(
6. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)
An act our founding fathers would applaud is considered a crime. Sad
26. ZeroCide (Posts: 678; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
He is a hero of the people. The founding fathers would be proud and turning in their graves at what the US has become,
28. donfem (Posts: 480; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
The founding fathers never had the present problems did they?
10. threeline (Posts: 252; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
Why would this moron go through all this trouble just to tell us something we already know? If you think the government is not going through your personal info or will when they need to, is just plain out of touch. If he felt his work was against his morals he should've not signed the security clearances he received and confidentiality agreements. No one wants to be snooped on but in reality how can terrorism be headed off in this technology age without snooping and having certain actions flagged. This is the world we live it now. I'm not giving up my laptop or smartphone because the government is snooping.
11. jroc74 (Posts: 4014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The old saying....choose your battles wisely....comes to mind. He obviously felt a certain way about what he knew. He went about it the wrong way. There was really no way to go with this and not get in trouble.
I wonder how many scientists, doctors out there know about unethical things done in the name of medicine, finding cures...
12. JC557 (Posts: 704; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
All he needs is a crowbar and an HEV suit to fight the Combine... err, NSA.
Good luck out there buddy. You're gonna need it.
14. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5649; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Why should we care bout this guy when NSA are the ones listening too us
20. newuser1 (Posts: 74; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
beause he is the one told you NSA is listening to us?
15. o0Exia0o (Posts: 277; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
There's a petition for the pardon of Edward Snowden on whitehouse.gov. It needs like 130 more signatures as of right now. the link is:
I tried to get phone arena to post a story about it 2 weeks ago but they never did.
21. newuser1 (Posts: 74; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
petition won't make a scratch on this angry wolf government.
24. jroc74 (Posts: 4014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The petition wont matter because he signed the confidentiality papers...
The fact that its govt property that he leaked to the world....he doesnt stand a chance. If it was a private corporation, maybe.
The fact that it involved being used in other countries.....he will be lucky to get 20 years. Doing what he did coulda got someone killed in another country for all we know.
All I will say is working for an agency like NSA and others like it isnt for the faint of heart. Dont be so naive when accepting a job like that.
27. Caralho (Posts: 119; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)
Long Live House Stark!!!! Down with the Lannisters!!! lol