Mysterious HTC phone scores over 36,000 on AnTuTu, could be the HTC M8
0. phoneArena 25 Nov 2013, 02:27 posted on
A mysterious HTC device has takan a spin on AnTuTu, returning a sallivating 36532 score, putting it in the league of industry exemplars such as the LG G2, the Sony Xperia Z1 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3...
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1. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
One point about benchmarks:
I think benchmarks are just numbers which try to attract the attention of customers, while in real world there is no difference between S600 and S800. even my Xperia Z which has a S4 pro chip in it works without any lag and can perform every app without any problem. im sure S800 can work easily for more than 4,5 years and there is no need to upgrade to better hardware.
The only result of using newer hardware is the higher price.
3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The SD800 has about 30% extra performance to it, 40+ on the AB variant, it's also 20-30% more efficient due to the better build. Of course real world difference may not be noticeable (my Nexus 4 is still smoother than 90% of Androids), but the difference is still there, and over the 1MIL tasks in a month, it adds up pretty significantly.
But flip the coin: on SD800 Sammy & others can add more features (say hello to the Note 3) that would lag on SD600 (that's you Galaxy S4), so it gives some breathing space. Plus no, the SD800 doesn't cost more than the SD600 did upon release. This is the flagship CPU now, that was then, the S4 Pro before, and it always costs the same.
5. Ishmeet (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
True said. same with my note II, it is more than one year old and still runs smoothly with its "now considered old" hardware without any lag or hiccups despite the heavy touchwiz customizations.
And according to my opinion, companies should work on providing better battery life and more internal space for lesser cost to smartphones. These things probably mean a lot to the consumer.
10. mr.techdude (Posts: 569; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
@emadshiny, you are very right. While in adition, benchmarks just tells you an introduction not a conclusion of a devices speed and consistentcy. Why you may ask? Cause the benchmark score gives us an idea that omg this phone is fast. But real life u might not see a massive difference between a HTC one vs nexus 5, only in gaming and heavy tasks where you will might notice a small difference but overall there almost the same. So
21. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
I know emulators run much smoother on the tegra 5 and snapdragon 800 than the 600. There is a difference you just won't notice it if your a casual.
2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Why M8? I can't figure out HTC's naming scheme. A good product name makes or breaks sales and there is no logic behind it. HTC One X. One X+. Butterfly. Droid DNA. One. Butterfly S. M8. Strange.
4. DanishDynamite (Posts: 35; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
M8 is the code-name for the new phone, as M7 was teh code-name for the One...
6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Fair enough, you still don't see much logic in naming. What will it be? HTC Two, One+? One 2? One X?
34. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
One squared and then one cubed. With the little 2 on the squared and a little 3 on the cubed in the top right corner. Works perfectly.
Of course HTC sucks and will probably call it something stupid like the HTC two or something.
7. JC557 (Posts: 1286; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
I think the M8 could be a good name though. Wanna set a date? Get a M8!
12. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1064; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
The only problem is by the time this device is released we will already be looking forward to devices sporting other new chipsets like the Tegra 5, Snapdragon 805, etc. While it shouldn't really matter, consumers still tend to want the latest and greatest.
29. phillip12 (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
This time last year the M7 was rumored to have a Snapdragon S4 Pro, but as you know thats not what the One has. Infact, if I remember correctly, the rumors never quite got it right.
13. iushnt (Posts: 1317; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
may be this device will be released to compete with galaxy S5
15. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
Why haven't i ever seen any WP benchmarks? Is it b.c the apps aren't available to the OS?
16. rizevnarastek (Posts: 338; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
This may well be the rumored Butterfly 2 and tot the M8...we'll see.
17. waqarzec (Posts: 31; Member since: 09 May 2013)
when it wiil arrive ...it would be the only one
20. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
HTC giving up?
If they plan to go against Galaxy S5 with this..uh, well good luck.
Don't get me wrong, the Snapdragon 800 is plenty capable for 90% of users in the next couple years.. but the SD805 has already been announced, and the Exynos rumored for the Galaxy S5 is promising a phenomenal power and efficiency.
Releasing a flagship phone with an old generation chip is not how you fight for the crown.
Btw, my full stock device already beats that score.
30. phillip12 (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Relax, they're testing prototypes. This is way too early for them to have a finalized device. This phone will more than likely be released with the flagship CPU at the time just like the One was.
31. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The scores are marginally higher than average Snapdragon 800 devices. This could very well have a Snapdragon 805 but be held back by unfinished software, or this could be an early prototype using a Snapdragon 800, but the final product will have the 805. Either way, this phone has more power than any kind of user will ever need unless you intend on playing Battlefield 4 on ultra settings with your phone.
Also, that rumored Exynos will probably only be found on 10% of Galaxy S5's like the Exynos 5410 was for the Galaxy S4. Nothing to get excited about considering 90% of consumers will get the Snapdragon 805.
32. true1984 (Posts: 760; Member since: 23 May 2012)
i wouldn't count on the exynos. it couldnt even out perform the sd600 on the gs4(performance stutters). samsung's processors haven't been able to keep up with qualcomm lately so i'm not even looking forward to their 64-bit chips
23. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
@Livyatan i respectfully disagree as i think the snapdragon 800 will be capable of running anything on android for atlist two years because of the better optimization of the OS. I think google said that kitkat only needs 512mb of ram nd 1ghz processor.
24. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Well, I also don't doubt that the Snapdragon 800 is gonna deal with any app easily for at least another 2 years.
But I'm not sure it will be able to do so with games.
Big gaming studios are starting to notice and realize the importance and potential of mobile gaming and in two years time we could see really serious titles popping up fast on Google Play, with PS3/Xbox 360-level of graphics quality.
And as good as the Adreno 330 is, its still not that good.
The Adreno 420 with its 150GFLOPS and 25GB/s memory bandwidth is the kind of mobile GPU that should be able to play such games at high settings.
25. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
@livyatan, Your last sentence '...at high settings' indicates that you are on to something but what i was talking about was 720-1080p @30fps because i think the sd800 paired with generous RAM can handle those with ease nomatter when, and not 2k-4k resolutions @60fps (the future) as I'm sure it cant handle graphic intensive games at those settings. Because the iphones are blasing through benchmarks inspite of their inferior hardwares due to their low-res displays.
26. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Look at GTA 5..that's what I mean by high settings at 720p.
And there is just no way any current SoC would be able to push that kind of graphics even on 720p.
Its all about the polygons and game engine complexity.
You have mobile games that are supposedly "supporting" the 1080p and even the iPad's retina resolution, but those are just stretched out to formally fill the resolution.
The Gangstar Vegas(picking it as an example of the same genre game) on iPad is for example retina -oprimized, yet in reality it has far and beyond less detail and polygons, and far simpler animations and physics than GTA 5.
27. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
@livyatan Ohhhh i get what you are say'n. 'Console' games. hmmm interesting though, so you r say'n we might see a smartphone game equivalent in polygons and graphics to ... say, battlefield 4? In that case i agree completely.
28. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Okay, not quite Battlefield 4 pc/PS4, but BF4 on Xbox360/ps3 kind of graphics. You get what I mean.
And amazingly, Adreno 420 already should perhaps be capable of such a thing.
The ULP GeForce Kepler(Tegra 5), surely will be capable (proven to be able to run Battlefield 3 on Windows actually), and the newly announced Mali t760 maybe even more so. Both are stated to have over 300GFLOPS peak performance(depending on the clock speed) and about 10GPixels/sec fill rate which is significantly more than ps3/xbox 360
33. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
..what I meant by high settings was really that while any Android game will for sure be playable on Snapdragon 800 for years to come, the most advanced crop of titles won't be playable at their best.
Same goes today with games such as Real Racing, Dead Trigger, etc.. they can be played even on stuff like a $150 Android tablets or two year old iPod touch.
But the difference in how those games look on high end devices is night and day.
You have a good example of the upcoming Modern Combat 5 article on GSMArena blog.
The full graphics will be enabled only on high end devices, while last year's top gun phones will have to settle with a toned down experience.
There, I hope that clears my point out.:)