Mr. Blurrycam makes his return with new HTC M8 pictures
0. phoneArena 09 Feb 2014, 12:23 posted on
It's another day, which means more HTC M8 leaked photographs to pass along. The M8, aka the HTC One 2, is attracting plenty of interest and HTC would love to see that turned into demand for the phone when it is launched. The latest leaked shots of the device reveal the dual-camera system that was seen on an earlier leaked shot of the phone...
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1. Sauce (unregistered)
11. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
So blurry oh God. Did I just got numbers in my eyes.
22. trollz (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Oct 2013)
I love how leaksters always use a high quality camera.
12. aaronkatrini (Posts: 241; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
It isn't dual camera... It is an Iris Scanner... *cough*..*cough*..*flies away...*....
15. buccob (Posts: 2512; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Iris scanner on the back of the phone? Yeah right... "captain dumb"...
One sensor is for better focusing or multi focus point and the other is the main camera.
Also... HTC claiming that this was inaccurate seemed to be a "oh crap, they know" statements
2. power_x (Posts: 264; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
so how on earth is the front cam 5mp and the back cam is just 4mp ?
5. Epicness1o1 (Posts: 246; Member since: 30 May 2013)
front camera isnt up camera and the rear camera is up camera.
26. amro99 (Posts: 105; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
What makes you so sure about rear lens being 4mp? Nothing is confirmed yet
3. surethom (Posts: 605; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
It wont be 4megapixel Ultrapixel, because if it is this will fail. 6 or 8 megapixel Ultrapixel please
7. Epicness1o1 (Posts: 246; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Dual sensor dude it wont fail this time,I hope
18. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
That won't increase the sharpness/resolution of the image unfortunately. It might make the pictures more accurate and better night time but we seriously need some quality on them. The 4UP camera shots looked terrible because of the graininess present due to low resolution more so than other reasons. They need to up the MP on that camera no matter what and then they will be able competition for the year.
20. Beijendorf (Posts: 339; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Don't claim things about which you know nothing.
The two 5 MP images are combined into a 13 MP image (read the CES press release). That's how computational photography works - many low-resolution images become one high-resolution image.
Pelican Imaging has 16 0.75 MP sensors combining to form an 8 MP image, with reduced noise, improved low-light sensitivity and full-image focus.
40. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
I think Toshiba Two 1/4 inch 5M pixel 1.4 µm CMOS image sensors is not good enough to compete with other 2014 flagships.
44. Beijendorf (Posts: 339; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
I agree with you, and so did apparently HTC since they've opted for including their own 5 MP 2.0 µm (also known as 'Ultrapixel') sensors. The rest is from Toshiba, including the camera algorithms if rumours are to be trusted.
47. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
From what i know HTC is not able to make their own image sensor and the "Ultrapixel" is just marketing name like super lcd or retina display.
And if i'm not wrong until this day Sony and samsung is the only OEMs who can make their own image sensor with sony owns 50% of market share.
the cmos sensor in HTC One is made by ST Microelectronics, it’s the VD6869. This is the 1/3.0” format sensor with BSI and 2.0µm x 2.0µm pixels.
5 MP with 2.0µm sounds very wierd and if thats true i think it still not good enough to compete with other 2014 flagship because most of them will use bigger sensor, wider and bright lens +OIS.
For example even 2013 mid range Lumia 920/925/928 camera can take picture with more details and thanks to Sony 1/3.0" with 1.4µm image sensor + f2.0 aperture and 3 axis OIS is good enough for low light photography.
4. outlawog (Posts: 47; Member since: 27 Nov 2013)
Why couldnt the leaker just take pictures of the phone like a civilized person?
9. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
Leakers usually have only their potato with them. It doesn't have viewfinder, so pretty hard at taking pictures.
6. karim77 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)
Didn't htc say that the last picture with the extra rear cam was fake?
8. power_x (Posts: 264; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
the previous photo was fake because the housing of the LED flash was separated , but this photo both LED flashes are in one single housing
10. Beijendorf (Posts: 339; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Alan F, it's time to update your article.
The camera is rumoured to be a twin camera module from Toshiba with 2x5 MP HTC Ultrapixel sensors. The CES press release about that camera is that it generates 13 MP images in dual-shot mode.
Would you, looking at the Pelican Imaging's PiCam, claim their 8 MP camera is just a 0.75 MP camera because each of the 16 lenses just takes 1000x750 pixel images? It's computational photography, and it means several low-resolution images can generate a high-resolution images.
42. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Lol... what makes you think that two tiny sensor with 13 mp maximum output is good enough for 2014 flagship??
45. Beijendorf (Posts: 339; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
I'm all for holding a friendly discussion, so there's no need to be belittling.
The reason I think computational photography through dual 5 MP sensors and an output image at 13 MP to be enough for a 2014 flagship is because of what's been known as the "Megapixel Race".
I know you already know this, so I'll just reiterate; more megapixels doesn't make a better photography. Many of the more impressive DSLR's don't go higher than 20-25 MP - and that's top of the line cameras. What's important is the sensor size, filters, lenses and so forth.
Since you can't slap a huge lens and massive sensor on a cell phone, you have to compensate through other means. That's where computational photography comes in. Using multiple lenses with lower resolution, images can be combined to form a lot more high-resolution, noiseless and bright images with better dynamic ranges. It's literally the next step in photography. While I believe more in the approach Pelican Imaging has, I think the Toshiba approach can give great pictures as well.
In other words, we saw what one lens could do last year. It wasn't too impressive unless you went with the Lumia 1020. Using computational photography however? Well, if done correctly, the results could potentially be astonishing.
We'll see how well they've pulled it off after MWC. If Nokia releases a PiCam flagship at the same time, the tech race is on!
48. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
My words may sound harsh, but I did not mean to rude.
Toshiba twin sensor is not good enough for 2014 flagship because most 2014 flagship will use bigger sensor with 1.4 micron or more + bright lens and OIS.
Megapixel is very important for today standards because it can capture more detail, you can get loseless zoom and noise free image with pixel binning like 1020 5MP and Z1 8MP setting.
Yeah i know "more megapixels doesn't make a better photography" thats why my RX100 II can take better pictures than lumia 808 and 1020.
But when the sensor is big enough there is no problem with that.
With more Megapixels you able to capture more detail and detail is one of the most important things in photography, That's why most of today's DSLR has high megapixels.
Pelican maybe sounds very intersting but i don't think those tiny sensor with multiple lens is able to beat more advance and larger BSI sensor especialy when it combine with bright lens and OIS.
1020 can take great pictures but the problem its very slow.
13. salaal (Posts: 109; Member since: 08 Dec 2013)
One should rather get Nexus 5, a lot cheaper same capbilities
14. Bioload25 (Posts: 213; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
The second sensor up there seems pretty ugly, I'd put it next to the main one,making both at the same size,with the dual LED at the left...
17. neops (Posts: 285; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)
Maybe they want to use the same back of the One.
Just make an extra hole for the second camera
and expand the one for the flash.
With the second camera in that position, will it be
a second speaker on the front side though?
24. UglyFrank (Posts: 1580; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
There isn't much different between capactive buttons and onscreen buttons.
27. uRiBiTo666 (Posts: 55; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
course there is. on such a dense screen, they drain a bit of your GPU's power. and they consume your screen's usable space. a 5.3 inch screen with on screen buttons isnt much different from a 5 inch screen with the buttons on other place (capacitive or physical buttons). it may also drain your battery little bit. (consider it as using a 5 inch display)
33. UglyFrank (Posts: 1580; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
If Immersive Mode is available across all apps, onscreen buttons will be fine. HTC needs to save as much space as they can because the BoomSound Speakers make their phones too long.
32. vandroid (Posts: 327; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
I've used on screen buttons. There's a difference. I hate on screen buttons. HTC is the only Android oem that I like, if they come out with on screen buttons the One will be my last device from them
23. amro99 (Posts: 105; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
By going for on screen bottoms, I thought HTC is going to minimize the size by getting rid of those thick bezels, but as the 2nd photo shows, the stupid black bezel at the bottom with HTC logo is still there! So this phone is going to be considerably larger that One :(
25. uRiBiTo666 (Posts: 55; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
now we'll have to use the front camera instead of the back one to take hi res pics. [so stupid!!]
29. uRiBiTo666 (Posts: 55; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
Mr. Blurry made a reference to his name with theese pics. maybe he used an HTC one to take them?
30. stealthd (unregistered)
Looks like it has a 2-tone flash like the iphone 5s as well.
31. dinzle (Posts: 21; Member since: 03 Dec 2011)
Clearly it is a miniature subwoofer.... Boom sound 2.0! No, but that would be cool though.
35. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
At least it's sticking to 1080p, unlike Samsung galaxy s4 with its 4k crap.
36. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
This is definitely cool, 2- 5 UP cameras and dual tone flash will certainly increase the image quality. On screen button will be nice once more apps start to support Immersion Mode
37. Fuego84 (Posts: 341; Member since: 13 May 2012)
The latest rumored specs include a 5 inch screen with 1080 x 1920 resolution, powered by a quad-core 2.3GHz Snapdragon 800 CPU with an Adreno 330 GPU inside. 2GB of Ram. Aren't these the exact specs of the Nexus 5. I'm going to have trouble upgrading to this One (2) from the One. I might opt for the Nexus 5.
38. ravivarma639 (Posts: 21; Member since: 15 Apr 2013)
Fake pics there won't be thick bezels at the bottom
39. ChafedBanana (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Sounds like last year's specs with a terrible camera. Too bad too because I love the aluminum, front speakers, Sense and bright display.
41. iamoa (unregistered)
I told you htc, i just need one whole (camera). This ain't a girl that you making two wholes. Leave two wholes for them. Just 1 quality whole (camera). Why dont you get it?
46. Gregor (Posts: 34; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)
On, no! Everyone wants a 5" screen M8 in the body of the One without the bezels - and the M8 comes with software buttons - but with the same big black bezel?! I hope, it's only a prototype and not the final device, otherwise it would be a big disappointment