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Motorola could be on the hook for $16.2 billion in patent dispute with Apple

0. phoneArena 03 Dec 2011, 14:19 posted on

In a court hearing on Friday, Apple estimated that Motorola would need to post a $2.7 billion bond every year if it decides to seek a preliminary injunction against iCloud that subsequently gets overturned; with the case possibly lasting until 2018, Motorola could be on the hok for $16.2 billion,,,

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posted on 03 Dec 2011, 15:00 4

8. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


The last commandment of the deranged, late Steve Jobs - take out ANDROID

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 15:22 7

9. shamu11 (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


google is not taking over the world, they are defending us from apple!

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 15:26 4

11. vivek.ray (Posts: 22; Member since: 08 Apr 2011)


Most likely Apple is now seeing other competitors slowly taking off its share and will get back to dirty market tactics . Remember fall in Apple share when iPhone4S was announced .

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 15:58 3

12. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Excellent article on APPLE:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/apples-worldwide-war-on-samsung-and-android/9945?tag=nl.e550

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:05 2

13. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Without steve jobs vision of the iphone, the cell tech industry would not have boomed as it has right now. Including the ipod which he first revolutionized the portable music world and last the ipad which set the tab into full swing. Now i dont know who copied who but steve out right believes that google copied or stole apples ideas and set to nuke them up. $2.7 billion per year till 2018, that'll nuke motorola and google to the s**t hole. Good luck!

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 17:43 2

24. jacko (unregistered)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jUS1H8cCiA

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 07:25 5

48. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


jacko, so true, he didnt invent the smartphone, ipod, itunes and macs. he took the excising products and persuade people to pay enormous amount of money for them, the only praise I'll give Steve Jobs is how he persuade people to buy his products, cos "in my own opinion" Americans thrive on popularity and what teens like and don't like, and from what I've seen it's very easy to persuade and American teen into what is perceived to be popular and cool [and once they think something is cool, is very hard to convince them otherwise, which explains the iPhone popularity irrespective of the so called iPhone killer, and they are many of them out there]. CONCLUSION: Steve was gr8 @ persuading people, and making them pay more for something that should cost less and convinced them [including me with my iPhone] that when you move around or show off your Apple iDevice, you'll look cool and rich. JUST MY OPiNiON, all iFans are so gonna..... nevermind. {i guess everything with the "i" sells hay. hehehehe! haters on the left pls}

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 18:13 4

25. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4494; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


There is no denying that, but it's not like it never would've happened without him either. The world had technology booms before Jobs, and it will have booms after him as well. Companies have come out with inventions before, followed by other companies that bring their own version of said invention to compete with the original.

The difference is most of the original companies didn't sue each other. Panasonic came out with the first modern flat screen tv. Do you see them suing LG, Samsung, Toshiba, Sony, & Sharp. Do you see laptop companies suing each other because their competitors' products look similar to theirs? No.

But, going by the story yesterday on this site on Apple's suggestions for Samsung to avoid further litigation, apparently the rectangle (rounded or not), the color black, a centered screen, and a horizontal earpiece are property of Apple.

Can you imagine the world we'd be in if car companies had done this. Ford would be the only company to have a four wheeled black car. Oldsmobile would be the only company to have the modern overhead valve V8, automatic transmission, and fromt wheel drive. The difference there was, if the competition came out with something selling better, they got back to work and tried to come up with a way to beat them in sales. They didn't sue for money or try to have the competition banned. But that hard work is what drove innovation, constantly keeping companies motivated to beat their competition.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 18:37 4

29. hepresearch (unregistered)


... and, in your perfect world, everyone has an iPhone. What a boring utopia...

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:08 9

15. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Steve Jobs stole plenty from those before him...

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:26 3

16. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


You can't relativate.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 20:15 4

30. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Relativate?

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:16 1

38. hepresearch (unregistered)


Relativate (rel-u-tiv-At); a verb.

1) to relate to a skewed perception in the mind of one who wishes to intentionally argue using familiar semantics applied to their own relative definitions of concepts in a common argument.

2) to understand the actual meaning of the argument of a fellow debater when the debater in question does not wish to be completely understood.

3) to be able to see through an intended connotation in a debate by relating to the relative definition secretly used by the opposition, often to their great surprise and alarm.

As used in a sentence: So far he has been unable to relativate, which is great for us!

As used in a sentence: Please understand that I will make this clear enough for you that you need not try to relativate... ahem! I mean, relate.

As used in a sentence: You cannot relativate! At least, I do not want you to relativate, because if you did, my secret would be out and my fellow iFans would be highly disappointed that you have any ability to understand what we are really talking about right in front of your face... and then I would feel really dumb, and start to publicly blush in embarrassment.

=8-D

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:27 5

17. hepresearch (unregistered)


When Apple sues another company, and wins, they get lots of money (case-in-point: HTC). When Apple sues another company, and loses, they settle for a pittance (case-in-point: Nokia). When another company sues Apple, either Apple will sue them for way more than they are being sued for (case-in-point: Nokia), or they have to pay Apple a freakin ton of money until they win (case-in-point: Motorola). If they lose, Apple eats the deposit for breakfast, and then counter-sues for even more money (case-in-point: Samsung). Somewhere, an Apple attorney is flipping a coin... Heads - I win! Tails - you lose!

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:33 4

19. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Motorola sbould take HALF IF APPLE'S fortune in damages "just saying". Motorola is one of my favortie phone manufacturer & I still have my Atrix. And now its Apple's turn TOO SUFFER.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 16:34 3

20. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Motorola sbould take HALF OF APPLE'S fortune in damages "just saying". Motorola is one of my favortie phone manufacturer & I still have my Atrix. And now its Apple's turn TOO SUFFER.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 18:21 4

26. androidsbiggestfan (Posts: 76; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)


Don't worry, Apple will fail soon enough, their following Blackberry's tracks from a few years ago. Hot booming phone flying off the shelves, then a lack of innovation and then a downfall. Think about it!

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 18:36 1

28. hepresearch (unregistered)


... unless Apple can convince the majority of consumers that the iOS devices are already perfect, and that innovation is no longer necessary. They could do what RIM and Nokia did before them, but without any fall from grace afterward as a consequence... fortunately, I do not think people are dumb enough to fall for that kind of thing for too long.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 20:17 4

31. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


lol, 4 million fell for it over the first weekend the iphone 4S was sold.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:29 3

40. hepresearch (unregistered)


Well, I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume that insufficient time has passed for the majority of them to realize what is going on...

I am hoping that the iAddiction is not as hard to break as a nicotine addiction...

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 20:19 5

32. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?vā€‹=0jUS1H8cCiA

XDA TV - funny stuff
Steve Jobs did not invent, he persuaded you to buy what was already invented and persuaded the masses to overspend for it.

Steve Jobs would have made a great evangelist.

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 07:39 4

49. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


if i could, I would give this 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 thumbs up, lol

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 09:18

52. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


...but he WAS an evangelist!!!

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Cult_of_Apple
http://www.cultofmac.com/

See?

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 20:34 2

34. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


It's funny to see android fanboys play attorney, hahahahaha.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:05 4

36. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


no one, not even yourself, really knows what goes on with this litigation - to say that APPLE is not over doing the litigation is preposterous.

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 11:06

55. geedup (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Apple has won quite a few of their cases. In this case Motorola is the aggressor. Anyway if they were over doing it a
They wouldn't be winning cases.

posted on 05 Dec 2011, 00:56

60. hepresearch (unregistered)


1) The Truth: consumers everywhere will pay for the litigation between Apple and other OEMs no matter what.

The loser(s) will raise product prices due to having to cover the costs of the litigation (since they will, no doubt, bear the financial burden of the losing outcomes), and the winner(s) will raise product prices to prevent scarcity as demand for their now-suddenly-more-affordable product rises, and they must balance that demand through either pricing or supply increases.

2) The Truth: the most consistent winner(s) of the litigation series will drive the loser(s) into the ground as the price of products go up.

Losing OEMs cover their new costs of settlement or licensing, and winning OEMs make that much more profit since they can raise prices without having to cover additional litigation costs (traditionally covered by the losing OEMs), all while remaining competitive with the value offered by the products of their competitors. Thus, the losing OEMs become more expensive while delivering less and making less profit, while the winning OEMs make lots more profit and do not need to deliver any more than their competitors. The consistent winner ends up with all the profits eventually. Actual economic competition comes to an end as a result.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:07 2

37. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


YouTube has a lot of interesting videos of when Steve Jobs introduces Mac or of the WOZ going through some APPLE history.

People do seem to worship Jobs and APPLE. Is it sadistic or ludicrous?

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:24 1

39. hepresearch (unregistered)


... is there an all-of-the-above option?

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 05:03 3

44. naga.appani (Posts: 36; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)


Apple will not exist by then and Motorols becomes a Googorola.. :P

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