Motorola DROID X 2, DROID 3, and Targa to come after the BIONIC
0. phoneArena 15 Mar 2011, 15:52 posted on
It appears there will be a Motorola DROID X 2, DROID 3, and a new code-name device called Targa. This device will also support 4G, as it is clearly shown on the back cover. We can also see a front facing camera for video chats, capacitive buttons on the bottom, HDMI out on the side, and under the rear camera it looks to say "13MP / AF". Our guess is this device probably won't be out until Q4 for the holidays.
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1. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i'm not sure if i like the capacitive buttons being so close together on that shot there of the Droid 3 but i wasn't really feeling the Droid 2 leaks either but it really grew on me by the time it got official. from what i'm seeing right now the Targa might be the way to go, keyboard be damned.
34. ravenlore (unregistered)
Thump3r wins at life for his/her Kenpachi icon.
Back to topic: Droid 3 isn't going to be LTE. I can't bleeping believe it. :-(
44. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
I just wish they would stop getting inspiration from wales... or a spoon... or whatever the heck they think they are mimicing
2. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2840; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Motorola needs to get rid of motoblur on their high end phones.
11. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they just need to keep it toned down. a full stock version would be nice though.
that said, the targa looks like a slightly bigger Vibrant/Captivate.
any word on the camera on the back? looks like it might actually have a semi decent lens (for a phone anyways)
13. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
Engadget says they think it's a 13MP shooter.
21. techee44 (unregistered)
Where's it say that?
38. chris23 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Jul 2010)
From the pics it looks like it will be full on motoblur....i see the Motoblur accounts icon in the app menu of the Droid x2.
3. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I agree. Please, please, don't put Motoblur on these devices. Motorola has to have heard how much people hate it by now! Thank you Launcher Pro.
4. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I dunno. I like Motoblur's widgets and functionality, and it runs just fine on my X. My X only seems to lag when I have live wallpaper on it or it's running too many apps at once.
My only complaint is that no option exists to dismiss all social feed updates at once. That they could fix. But it's really a pretty good skin over stock Android.
5. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2840; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Don't get me wrong. I am glad Motorola is stepping up and getting dual core processors and higher screen resolutions but Motoblur itself is holding Motorola back. Too many people root their motorola phones just to go full stock android. I wish they would just make official stock builds for their phones that people can download easily if they don't like UI skins like Motoblur, Sense, and Touchwiz.
6. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What specifically is wrong with motoblur? I'm not quite clear on this.
7. giantgnome (Posts: 67; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)
My biggest complaint would be that every time I swipe to a new screen the dock disappears and you have to wait to get back to your dialer contacts and apps.
And none of the 3rd party launchers lag as badly as motoblur, although that's not to say motoblur lagged that much for me in the first place but the launchers definitely give a smoother experience with more options.
But I do like Motorola's widgets which fortunately I still get access even in the other launchers.
10. 640k (unregistered)
The biggest problem with Motoblur isn't the home screen, it's the intrusiveness into the Android experience as a whole. Between the backup assistant (unnecessary), account integration (pre-installed apps, poor integration) and the battery manager (really? disable data at night? can't i just plug my phone in?), Motoblur's attempt at integration wasn't thoroughly tested.
The text messaging app that replaces the stock messenger is cumbersome to say the least. You have to constantly tell it to resize pics when attaching to MMS, you lose the ability to hit the enter key on physical keyboards to send text messages and you lose parts of Android's integrated environment with the shortcut bubble.
Motoblur's account integration is the worst of the entire experience. You have to log in to Facebook twice and you have no choice over what contacts synchronize (all vs. what's already in your address book). Adding an account seems to take one to two more steps more, over what Android would require because of how Moto dumbed-down the process in an attempt to appeal to non-tech savvy people.
Motoblur's gallery is terrible too. I hate having to scroll pic by pic, video by video and it doesn't do a great job of organizing your gallery either. The camera to gallery integration is also lacking in that I'll often find I'll be looking at the first pic I've taken, vs. the last. So if I want to share the pic I just took, I have to find it, again.
There are only two things that Moto brought to the Android experience that I almost can't live without. The camera/camcorder is light years better than Android's and they included a desperately needed audio equalizer with profile settings (although it doesn't work consistently and you have to reselect the settings).
8. JQ (unregistered)
Why is there no GSM version of the Droid X? Why can't Motorola release one for the GSM market?
35. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)
No GSM Versions because GSM is crap and companies using GSM aren't going to be investing in it for very much longer, not to mention CDMA phones are selling like hotcakes, why slow that momentum? sounds like YOU are the one that needs CDMA not visa versa
37. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
actually i think it's the other way around...
40. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
And why is it the other way around? PapaJay has it right on.
43. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
CDMA is quite reliable but the future doesn't lie in it, it's just outdated technology made for the military years ago here in the U.S. everywhere else has GSM because it's faster than CDMA and can support voice and data at the same time. even Verizon's own LTE network is based off of GSM technology.
9. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I like the design of the Droid 3 - the way the chrome ringed screen floats over the rest of the device is classy. It also hints at a much bigger keyboard under there than the current model.
12. JasonP (unregistered)
Capacitive buttons??? Oh-NO!!!!!!!!!!
15. CNachoz (unregistered)
but but...it says on the back of the X2 4G??? da fffffuuu.........
25. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
That's the quad-core Targa, not the X2 reboot
16. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I must the only person in America who works in a job that it is tough on his phones. I am truly in need of a high end phone, but where I work it is hard to keep exposed screens in good shape. I really like the look of some of these phones, and would love to have a high end, flexable toy. But man.... I would not last even half of my contract without a little durability to these.
These seem like very solid upgrades from Moto, even with some of the complaints of Motoblur. As popular as these lines of phones (the X and Droid) are, I cannot see them moving to a stock Android, although maybe streamlining the experience may not be too much to hope for.
17. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well, sanjay did say that Moto is moving away from promoting Blur. And the cut down nature of it on the X and 2 speaks to this. I personally like it. But I understand others' criticisms of the interface. I'll still take it over the cheap pos phones LG keeps tossing out.
24. Buck (unregistered)
Have you tried getting a great case? For instance, my coworker got an "Otterbox" case for his iPhone 3G. Yeah, it doubles the size of the phone, but it also almost completely encases the phone in a plastic exoskeleton and around THAT is wrapped a thick rubber encasement. Together, you can toss the damn phone across the room and have no problem whatsoever. I don't know if they make cases like that for other phones, but I'd imagine someone's got to...
42. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I have had very little luck with a casein the past, but I bet they have improved them as well as the phones as time has gone by. I haven't heard of an otterbox, I will check into it- then throw my phone across the room and let you know! :-D
18. Blurrrry (unregistered)
I find it so bizarre that so many people hate Moto Blur, I actually feel that it has the best social networking integration of any thing running on any device out there. I think that if you feel the need to get constant updates from various outlets Blur is the way to go, because I've had Android on various phones, and only Motorola is consistent when it comes to updates. I will say that the Backflip was slow and laggy, the Droid 2 was slow at times and a little laggy, and the Atrix is flawless... I think Motorola should keep Blur, but just make it optional, because I honestly don't ever want another phone unless it has Blur... or something equal to it
19. mustang14 (unregistered)
i hope these phones will look a little better than they do now!
20. skymitch89 (Posts: 969; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I think that those pics of the Droid X2 are just pics of the "new" Droid X, with only a 2GB pre-installed microSD, and maybe an updated version of Android. Now the Targa looks like it could be a true successor to the Droid X. The Droid 3 looks fairly good, but it seemed like the Droid 2 didn't go over soo good and I doubt that they'll put out a 3rd version.
26. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The way I see it, the Bionic is the true successor to the Droid X, and the Targa will be a successor to the Bionic. That hump on the back supports the killer camera, just like the one on the X.
As for the Droid 3, I see that as an upgrade for people who still rock a Droid but have a 2 year contract. The Droid 2 wasn't much of an upgrade, but with a bigger, qHD screen, much better keyboard and a dual core, this will be.
22. Buck (unregistered)
If you can't quite see what it says along the camera on the Targa, just keep zooming in and "enhancing," like you see in all the movies!
23. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I'm thrilled with the keyboard redesign on the Droid 3. A proper five row keyboard with well-spaced, raised keys. This will be my new phone.
27. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
whoa, hello there smexy keyboard. o:
i like the keyboard of the 3 but the top half of the phone is kind of on the ugly side.
28. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i also notice on the keyboard shot of the Droid 3 that there are 2 ports there on the bottom of what would be the left side of the phone, perhaps an HDMI port has been added?
29. billypunk13 (unregistered)
The x-2 looks identical to the X. Are we posistive this is a new phone? The buttons, mic, and everything is identical to the Droid X. Pretty sure your super spy photos of the X-2, are merely the first Droid X.
30. applepeoplesuck (unregistered)
Will the droid 3 have front facing camera and lte without that its useless
59. yooooooo (unregistered)
you can see the front facing camera in the picture on the side of it
31. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
I guess some of you dont follow techie sites like this. The phone pictured is the Droid X2, which is the Droid X reboot. Better quality screen and dual core processor. They are not just posting pictures of the Costco Droid X with a 2GB card in it. The super spy photos are correct.
33. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
what tech sites report aren't written in stone so read all you want but it might not even happen.
41. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
Dude its been pretty much handed to us on a silver platter. Been posted on every site and has everything set minus a release date. Get with the program.
45. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you mean via pictures of a Droid X? that's handing it to us on a silver platter? the scheme here doesn't make any sense so the news about this being a Droid X 2 will be met with my skepticism, i'd be willing to stick with a story if they reviled this to be a minor refresh to the current X but not a full blown successor.
46. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
The Droid X 2 IS a minor refresh. Its the same body just different internals. The full blown successor is possibly the Targa. Which the article states. I think you are confused my friend.
47. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i don't think you see my point, you see the fact that it's called the Droid X 2 would insinuate that this device with the same body as the original Droid X is next in line in the Droid X series as a successor, i don't think that's it's place, i think it should simply be a refresh of the current model, the true successor and rightful bearer of the Droid X 2 name is this newcomer the "Targa" as they call it, which has all of the necessary bumps in specifications and design to justify branding it as such and in the article PA said it is "in the Droid X model series" not a direct successor to the current model. so am i still confused or misinformed about anything friend?
48. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
Yes, I think you are. Smexy keyboard and all.
50. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Is there any chance the X2 spy pics we see here are test mules? Using the X2 internals in the X body for testing purposes, but the production models will have a different external design? (This is commonly done in the car industry - don't know if they would do something like that with phones.)
52. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
hm, that's a good hypothesis, i'll keep that in mind.
32. Christian (unregistered)
First, I'm saying the Targa is my next phone (if these specs are right), contract be Da*ned. Second, I don't mind Motoblur (on my DX). I like the widgets it provides, and I can disable what ever parts of it I don't like. The X has plenty of horsepower to run it fine. (especially overclocked.) And finally, short of going with vanilla android, what other theme would you suggest? Motoblur is a solid UI, many people like sense (which launcher pro is kinda like), but it's a resource hog. In short, if true, Targa=Perfect
49. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I have read from many fans that the "X" made great use of Motoblur, more so then any other phone. I have had only one experience- helping a friend at my Church who is a trucker set up his Droid Pro. (It was actually pretty funny, he had this scared look like he was gonna blow it up if he touched it wrong.) I found the criticisms of extra steps to everything to be accurate. But those with the "X" say it just enhances the experience, and that the phones speed makes it more responsive. So I am willing to look at these choices and see how they use it.
39. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2840; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I will say this. The Droid 3 really looks like it is the true successor to the original droid. The keyboard looks way better and finally 5 row. From the screen shot, it looks like it will have a 4 inch display which will make a lot of people happy(myself included). And if these do have motoblur, I really hope they have a new version that works fine without lagging and the other issues.
51. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I can't get over how perfect that keyboard looks. Look at it, then look at a PC keyboard...everything is in the right place, right down to the ~` key. This isn't just a Droid, it's a true pocket computer.
53. maccmill (Posts: 67; Member since: 29 Oct 2010)
The targa makes me not want the bionic anymore... wtf, cant they just stop for a few months?
55. joansie (unregistered)
I have the moto droid and waited for the Droid X with a keyboard, waited, waited and you can get a keyboard but no LTE, or LTE but no keyboard or the screen is too small, or it's 3G only, on and on . . .I've waited for years and the Bionic appears but no keyboard. Tegra will be out around Xmas and that doesn't have a keyboard!! No decent sized phone with LTE, 4g, and decent megapixels. Someone wake me from this nightmare...I can't even find a future phone to be excited about, nothing to look forward too. WoW i feel as if I lost all my co-writers as friends who I have nothing further to talk about. No more tecky talk, no more comments, I have fallen by the way side with all the hopes of looking forward to the future...one of the sadest days of my life. not kidding, another year will have to pass.
57. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Fret not! This is just the first generation of LTE phones. I think the radio hardware for LTE must be much bulkier than existing 3G chips, and that's why the upcoming phones (Thunderbolt, Bionic, Stealth, Revolution, Targa) are all huge. Putting a hardware keyboard in an LTE phone would result in something the size of the Bionic but 50% thicker. I'm sure as LTE chip makers improve the tech, it will shrink to where we can have ultra-thin, midsize and qwerty options.
DROID 4...G sounds pretty good to me.
56. llichtwalt (Posts: 8; Member since: 10 Jun 2010)
Damn my phone addiction!!! Just spent money on the Thunderbolt... Will more than likely get the Bionic & DEFINITELY getting the Targa... Think I'm going to need 2-3 more jobs. Anyone hiring?!
58. TawdWik (unregistered)
Lol get a job with Verizon like me!
60. Gothbeard (Posts: 26; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Lol, you would be mad to buy a Moto - worst quality control in the industry: Defy earpiece, Atrix call quality. Just go look at their official support forum. The worst thing is, when there is a big problem they just try to keep it quiet and keep selling the faulty phones. Fail.