Motorola DROID RAZR hits Verizon's system chock full of big time specs
0. phoneArena posted on 22 Oct 2011, 20:37
What upcoming thin LTE enabled handset has just hit Verizon's equipment infocenter? That's right, it is the Motorola DROID RAZR and plenty of Verizon customers with an update to burn can't decide between this and the Samsung GALAXY Nexus...
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1. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 20:51 11
The sealed in battery alone is definitely not a dealbreaker for me. The phone is amazing and if I were on Verizon and able to pay for that piece of art I'd get it. I'd so get it.
7. Droid_X_Doug posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:28 3
I might eat the ETF on my EVO 3D and move off of Sprint for the RAZR. Still haven't heard about any pre-order date much less actual in-store availability yet, though.
18. 530gemini posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:43 9
@sniggly. See how it changed your heart. Hahahahaha. Android fanboys mocked the iphone for having a sealed battery. But now it's ok, lol.
21. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:49 4
It was one factor out of about five or ten. By itself it's forgivable, a relatively minor gripe.
Don't bring this bulls**t argument up again.
29. Eingild posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:33 9
He's not bringing argument. He''s trolling as usual
26. protozeloz posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:27 3
That's his opinion, for me removable battery is a must have, I have an extended for long roadtrips to take photos check on places and. Other stuff. But you have to go all general on this, what a sour life you have.
62. remixfa posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:22 2
no removable battery = deal breaker for me.
117. Synack posted on 23 Oct 2011, 15:43 0
Same here. So much easier to yank the battery and go straight into download mode for flashing than turning it off, waiting, then putting it into DL mode. Also removable SD card is borderline a deal breaker for me but I'll still get the SGN (Samsung Galaxy Nexus) anyway.
31. jcoberg10 posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:44 6
plus the reason behind the sealed battery has a purpose, semi water resistant, durable phone, and Thinness.
52. terabyteRouser posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:07 7
I've had to remove my battery several times to restart my phone using Android. I don't know how commonplace it is with iOS. But due to the instability of the OS with Motorola enhancements, this could pose a problem.
53. networkdood posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:09 4
Seriously, I know of no one who has to do that.....
66. bucky posted on 23 Oct 2011, 09:06 3
Actually, I have to do that with the sgs2(not trolling). It is quite common with android. Makes me wonder how people will get ouf of those battery pull situations...
67. protozeloz posted on 23 Oct 2011, 09:14 1
1 are you using a task manager?
2 does it occurs with a certain app or something?
Also you can long press power button and after 10 secs should reboot
71. bucky posted on 23 Oct 2011, 09:39 1
I know how to properly set up android but thx for trying to help. Its just something natural with android I think after companies put their ui on it or something at the core.
74. protozeloz posted on 23 Oct 2011, 09:52 0
I personally deal with low end stuff(testing) and I can cause the device to freeze when I force it to chunk off all resources,(overload it) so I found it kinda rare to occur on much powerful devices
76. bucky posted on 23 Oct 2011, 10:03 1
Its much less frequent on this phone but does happen. My old atrix was bad. It was a daily occurance
80. protozeloz posted on 23 Oct 2011, 10:17 1
Maybe with the so waited hardware acceleration we will see huge improvements with ics, glad google took a step so people stop thinking a task manager is necessary on android, maybe manufacturers stop making UI overhauls and just add apps to the OS. Maybe skins trun into apps and make our lives better
86. taco50 (banned) posted on 23 Oct 2011, 11:13 1
Wow no one has EVER had to reset an android. Fanboys continue their outlandish comments.
95. Sniggly posted on 23 Oct 2011, 12:19 8
He was commenting on the frequency of the need to reset.
Please retake first level reading comprehension.
99. MotoFan619 posted on 23 Oct 2011, 12:31 1
I was very disappointed with the integrated batt. I actually asked my best friend who works for Moto Mobi how exactly am I to do a batt pull if it were to ever freeze! He said just hold down the POWER and VOLUME DOWN buttons simultaneously for about 30 seconds and boom! Hard Boot!
103. 1911xdm posted on 23 Oct 2011, 12:58 1
Hey look its a real phone! Not some second rate ifail.
137. bolaG posted on 24 Oct 2011, 11:56 0
I'm definitely getting this bad boy. I was going to get the nexus but I just didn't like the materials used or the over all look of the phone.
2. Firedrops posted on 22 Oct 2011, 20:55 2
It IS a pretty tough choice between this and the Nexus.
I think the Razr wins out very marginally for me, because of its ultra-durable body, and that it's going to get ICS soon anyways.
3. warlockz posted on 22 Oct 2011, 20:58 2
No removable battery is a deal breaker for me. I love having the option of changing batteries on the go.
4. i3izkit311 posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:06 2
Wow incredibly upset right now. The non-removable battery, especially if it follows a similar LTE phone battery life trend, this is a deal breaker... I don't have the opportunity to sit in one place for hours while the phone charges and am afraid of the ramifications of charging the phone 2-3x a day for a year or so.
5. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:14 1
The phone's battery life is reported to be better than the Bionics.
8. PotDragon posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:30 3
I think the Razr is an amazing phone and have had a tough choice. For me, one of the factors is indeed the battery being non removable. Even my desktop needs a reboot now and again.
Second factor is the plug placement. The USB ports in my car are approximently near your elbow in the console. The bottom plugs on the Nexus will allow the phone to sit flat in proper orientation. Shrug.
When the handsets are this close, it has to come down to some factor...and software isn't it for me, as that can always be rooted/changed. I cannot blame anyone who chooses this terrific handset though.
9. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:34 2
I think the Razr is a more impressive piece of hardware, and there has to be a manual reset option. I cant imagine Motorola being that stupid.
10. PotDragon posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:42 1
You may be correct. Up vol..up vol...down vol...hold power key.... Or some such. Hard to imagine a forced restart will not be possible.
13. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:07 0
Simplest way would be a power cutoff switch you can trigger with a paper clip end.
30. Droid_X_Doug posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:35 0
Or, just press and hold the normal On/Off switch for something like 8 seconds straight. There is any number of ways to include a hard reset capability. Removing the battery is really more of an afterthought carried over from RIM's OS....
64. remixfa posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:23 0
its the same hardware with a lesser quality screen. how is that more impressive? lol. I know u love blur n all but...blah! The only thing this has on the nexus is a higher mpx camera which doesnt always mean anything.
75. Sniggly posted on 23 Oct 2011, 10:02 1
Higher megapixel camera, more durable, thinner design. It's an LTE phone that isn't a brick.
85. remixfa posted on 23 Oct 2011, 11:10 0
you know megapixels mean nothing.
neater materials for sure.. may or may not be more durable.. wont know until we get some one to do some drop tests on it :)
very thin.. especially for an LTE phone. were splitting micrometers though.. does it really matter anymore? lol
11. i3izkit311 posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:45 0
Better - probably... but does that mean 6 hours to 8? or 8 hours to 10?
and does that small difference make you feel good enough about the fact that you cannot swap out for an extra battery?
12. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:57 0
People have said that the Bionics's finally giving them the battery necessary to get through a normal day. But I don't know.
28. Droid_X_Doug posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:33 0
And there are going to be car chargers available for the RAZR as well. I purchased a Moto-branded car charger at the time I purchased the Droid X.
17. iShepherd posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:38 2
It doesn't matter to me if its battery life is better than the Bionic's, I need to be able to swap out batteries if I forget to plug it in the night before, which I often do. I'm just glad there are some nice alternatives to the RAZR coming up. Also the biggest reason I didn't go with the iphone.
73. Snapdude posted on 23 Oct 2011, 09:50 0
it has a manual reset option
6. toaster posted on 22 Oct 2011, 21:19 5
Still getting this despite the non-removable battery. My experience with removable batteries and Blackberries is that the battery door is just another part that falls off ;) I so rarely have to do battery pulls that I would almost rather a non-removable battery so that the battery door doesn't keep falling off. Plus, if ICS brings the stability it promises, I may never need to see the battery. :)
It's only competition is the Galaxy Nexus, and the fact that it doesn't have an SD card slot IS a deal-breaker. That's the exact reason why I ditched Apple - just another way to gouge money by not offering expandable memory and charging upwards of $100 for more built-in memory. Let me buy a $50 32GB SD card and use it, please.
14. Penny posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:13 2
Removable battery is a must for Android phones. I mean, you have to be able to reset your phone when it inevitably freezes.
JK, lol, couldn't resist sorry.
15. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:28 2
Well, I recognize my phone isn't perfect, and yeah, when I overwork it (can't resist taking advantage of TRUE multitasking!) it is nice to have a reset option. Though I don't think a non removable battery will eliminate that option.
37. Penny posted on 23 Oct 2011, 01:08 2
Touche on the multitasking. Although the extent of the multitasking I would take advantage of on my phone involves playing music and running some apps, which my WP7 does fine.
And yea, I do hope they leave a non-software way to reset the phone.
19. 530gemini posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:45 0
@Penny. I know huh. Sealed battery is a non-issue for the iphone because you don't need to remove its battery to reset it. Sealed battery would be an issue with android phones.
22. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:50 1
Would be an issue with an Android phone* if no other reset option is built in.
27. protozeloz posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:30 1
You are right you just need to wait for the battery to die :) if you aren't smart enough to figure that out
32. ivanko34 posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:44 3
I own a galaxy s2 - it never freezes
no need to remove the battery
38. gallitoking posted on 23 Oct 2011, 02:31 0
Wait a few months... lol...
45. ivanko34 posted on 23 Oct 2011, 05:51 1
55. networkdood posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:12 0
I have only removed the battery when I have to remove my microSD card....although, recently, USB or wifi sync does the trick for file transfers to PC.
54. networkdood posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:11 1
My wife wishes she had a removable battery on her iPWNED 3GS as it does freeze up once in a while.
16. networkdood posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:32 1
I agree, If the wife goes back to Verizon, I would get this phone. Not having a removable SD card is far worse than the battery not being removable. Still, why was it made that way?
23. Sniggly posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:53 3
To have a profile that thin and make it more splash resistant, it was probably necessary. Not my favorite consequence of the phone's thinness, but it's so awesome otherwise that I would be willing to ignore it.
56. networkdood posted on 23 Oct 2011, 08:14 1
Good point on water resistant. However, I have never had an issue with getting a phone wet, or the like, so I still prefer a removable battery. With an iphone, if the phone has a battery issue, and they do, you send the entire phone back to APPLE. Not so, with most other phones
138. bolaG posted on 24 Oct 2011, 11:59 0
speak for yourself on the water issues. I had my old g droid replaced twice do to splashes :(((
20. iShepherd posted on 22 Oct 2011, 22:46 1
Having replaceable batteries is a must for me, since I forget to plug my phone in during the night to recharge a lot. Also the nature of my work makes it so I'm never near a plug or my car charger for more than a few minutes at a time, and I have to be able to receive calls on my phone.
24. toxic posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:07 0
awsome phone,but also a deal breaker , no sd card & no battery upgrade, i think bionic is the way to go with icecream, great phone & large battery upgrade for $25.00
33. kenemu posted on 22 Oct 2011, 23:50 2
nonremoveable batt certainly a deal breaker！iam ok to carry a backup charging device along but what if the batt goes wrong？ do i hqve to dump the pbone becasue of that？and iam abit worried about the resale value as overtime，batt will go dead and exhasted
34. ryq24 posted on 23 Oct 2011, 00:20 1
everyone see how successful iphone is even with its non removable battery so they just copied it.