Motorola DROID RAZR HD to come with a 2,530mAh battery
0. phoneArena 27 Jul 2012, 00:02 posted on
There will be a 2,530mAh battery under the Motorola DROID RAZR HD back cover, as stated in one of the documents in the smartphone's FCC filing. Sure, it won't be of the...
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1. nicholassss (Posts: 344; Member since: 10 May 2012)
seems silly to me to not have the maxx battery in it unless they're going to have a rar hd maxx too.
the battery they're putting in the HD isnt bad but come on...
5. whothisperson (Posts: 102; Member since: 06 May 2012)
They def could have done it but perhaps they designed the phone to be sleek and slim. I mean sure they could also put 5000mah but it'll be thick as a brick.
13. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i agree and then we have to remember that NFC is apart of the equation now too.
15. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
You came! I knew you'd answer my plea!
19. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
lol, of course! i am always watching! ;D
2. torr310 (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Please put a better camera could compete with iPhone 4S and SSG3.
51. ardent1 (Posts: 1980; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The Moto Razr's in mainland China already come with 13MP cameras. The bad news is US consumers don't get the cutting edge technology when it comes to cell phones.
59. whothisperson (Posts: 102; Member since: 06 May 2012)
More MP doesn't necessarily mean better camera, its the type of lens used.
3. iDroidx650 (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 May 2010)
It's pretty funny that the cases for the Motorola Atrix HD have a cardboard phone cutout. It says 13mp camera. Maybe they will look like the same devices.
4. mas11 (Posts: 1014; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
I'm perfectly happy with that battery. It's larger than the SGSIII and the battery life in that phone is pretty good.
6. JC557 (Posts: 699; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
The battery in the Droid Razr has provided decent battery life so I'm guessing this should be quite nice when combined with the S4 SoC.
11. mas11 (Posts: 1014; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
I agree from all the leaks I've seen the DROID RAZR HD will be in the same league as the SIII and One X.
14. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i don't really hold the One X as high as the SIII...but i do with the Razr HD!
27. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
please lets be honest...if these specs hold up then this phone will be better than both phones, in design and performance... So it looks like moto will have the photon 4g lte, the atrix hd, and now the droid razr hd.....Moto is outdoing companies for sure!
63. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
Moto is NOT out doing companies. They have hung in there and have put up a fight. The RAZR got them in a good position, and this RAZR HD will surely put them in the game for a while, but PLEASE "Moto is out doing companies"?
The first MotoDroid was not that good just put them on the Map since it was the 1st Verizon Android. Does anyone remember AT&T 1st Android? The crappy backflip? Even Sprints Photon is horrible (I owned it)
The RAZR familiy will finally give them a good name, and looks like HTC will sit the next round out since they dont have much money to invest. It looks like MOTO is in a good position for the Holidays.
64. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it seems to me like they're out doing most companies. they're second only to Samsung in the Android Space.
Verizon has always been blessed with Motorola's very best devices. the Backflip really wasn't very good but eventually AT&T got the Atrix series which is pretty solid and the Photon was Sprint's second best device last year.
66. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
Sorry I work for Sprint and the Photon was not succesful at all. I actually bought it, horrible display, terrible camera, bad battery life, the list goes on. I returned it after 3 days. The Admiral was also a failure, So was the Titanium, and the i1. None of their phones did well for Sprint.
I think the Photon Q addresses most of the things everyone hated bout the original Photon. Lets just hope that its got RAZR specs and quality and NO MOTOblur, and MAYBE then they will be behind Samsung, but for now its unlclear if they are better than HTC
67. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
most Sprint customers i talk to hold the Photon in a high regard so maybe it was just your area.
it's definitely a fantastic upgrade from the original Photon and spec-wise it's better than the Razr and of course it'll have that superb Moto build quality but i don't think it'll hold up to the Razr there being that it's not a Flagship device. Motorola's UI w/ ICS and even right before ICS was actually alright, you just wouldn't know because no device on Sprint has ever had any of Moto's recent User Interfaces. they're definitely better than HTC. i put Moto second only to Samsung even though i like Moto more.
20. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Considering how late they're entering the game, it had better be at least on par with the One X and SIII. I'm sure Motorola doesn't want another Bionic situation on their hands, where they're forced to replace their flagship within months. I hope for their sake that it's not just an Atrix HD with a bigger battery and camera.
21. mas11 (Posts: 1014; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
From what I've seen there is a good chance the RAZR HD will actually be better that the SIII. It's a shame that most likely it will be a Verizon exclusive.
22. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
well it did take them like 9 months longer than expected to get that original intended flagship out for sale so...yeah messy situation
And I figure an Atrix HD with a bigger battery and camera is exactly what it is. Really how could it be anything else? And I'm not seeing a problem with that either...other than the camera part.
No matter what the megapixel count though, I'm expecting that camera to not be very good.
25. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
A bump in RAM (1.5-2GB) along with the increased battery life and camera would make for a reasonable upgrade from the Atrix HD, and I'm not expecting much more than that.
While it looks like Moto's dropped the ball in the camera department recently, it's because they have used virtually the same sensor from the OG Photon through the Atrix HD (if Aaron from PhoneDog is to be believed.) Hopefully the new 13Mpx camera will be an improvement.
53. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i do expect it to be more. Motorola and Verizon's relationship just runs that deep. i expect the Razr HD to be bigger with a better camera and a bigger battery and a completely different design than the Atrix HD.
65. mas11 (Posts: 1014; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
I bet it will look like this, hopefully with a 4.8" screen.http://www.phonearena.com/phon
28. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
WHY NOT??? the only thing wrong with the atrix hd IS THE BATTERY! and its not even that bad anyway but still not as great as this phone....so what are you talking about you hope this phone isnt just another atrix hd with bigger battery??
38. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Because even the Atrix HD was maddeningly late to the current-gen Android party. By the time it launched, the GSIII had heen out over a month (internationally) and the One X even longer. Samsung and HTC are already moving on to bigger and better things, and it wouldn't be in Motorola's best interest to launch a GSIII/One X competitor a mere month or so before their competition's successors are already being launched. That's why Motorola really needs to impress, because they've been scheming for so long with nothing to show-up the current competition... so far.
41. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
"Samsung and HTC are already moving on to bigger and better things" what are they possibly going to make that is better than what they have now?? The Razr HD will not only have a wayy better battery life but can also possibly have a better camera (possibly) a S4 krait chip, and an HD screen....But besides Moto releasing this monster, it already has the Atrix HD out and the Photon 4g lte is on its way as well!! I think moto is doing MORE than enough and people like you are why Great companies get labled as underrated....
52. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
HTC 6435, HTC One X+, Samsung Galaxy Note 2, LG Eclipse, LG E970, just to name a few forthcoming models (rumored for September-October). With the exception of the One X+, all of these will be packing processors along the lines of a Quad-core Krait with an Adreno 320 and 1080p screens. I can't speak to battery life, but they'd be remiss if they didn't put at least 2500 mAh into each of them.
54. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i don't think these successors you speak of are coming as soon as you think and besides maybe Motorola is working on a Nexus and this is them putting stock into it.
7. CellieCell (Posts: 84; Member since: 14 Apr 2010)
Not bad, considering the majority smartphones uses less than 2000mah battery. compared with say the galaxy note, since this is a smaller screen hope to get at least a 12 hour battery talk time! overall speculated specs seems to be on par. I'm actually considering this over the GS3.
29. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
heck yea let go of the galaxy s3 and stop actin like it has no flaws....this phone, IF it holds up, will be a wayyy better choice than the S3 for sure!
8. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1927; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I realize that this is no 3,300 mAH battery, but I think most folks should be more than satisfied with this. It's still the second biggest battery on a smartphone released in our territory, eclipsing the Note. Not bad at all.
30. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
im actually kind of mad at how unappreciative people are being about this phone simply because it doesnt have a 33oo mAh battery! like you said it has the second largest battery and not only that but its going to have the s4 krait chip in it and possibly a 13 mp camera with an HD screen and high pixel density!! This phone is going be ahead of all the phones FOR SURE! design wise and performance will be on par with the other top end phones...Moto FTW
9. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2862; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I am more than fine with battery life on the SGS3 but i am kinda bumed this doesn't have a bigger battery. I really hope Motorola doesn't pull another Maxx out of their butts.
16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i doubt it. this will be a fine medium.
23. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
if they do, imagine how big the Maxx's battery will be...like 3800mAh or something crazy like that
10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm really looking forward to what Motorola has in store. I just hope they use an OMAP5 instead of the S4. Along with 2 GB of RAM, a big battery (the 2530 mAh is nice), and if it came pre-loaded with Jelly Bean that would be amazing. Too much to ask? Maybe. But it would still be nice (:
24. mas11 (Posts: 1014; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Actually now that they are owned by Google there is a good chance that it will launch with JB. Idk about the processor, but it will at least be 1.5 GHz dual-core. Probably more like 1.8 GHz because if it's going to be their flagship it should have a faster processor than the Atrix HD and the Photon Q. As for the RAM I don't see why not since the SGSIII already has it. Plus the camera will likely be the 13 megapixel one rumored.
47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I don't see the need to up the frequency of the processor, why not just get a better processor than the S4? Like the OMAP5. The only thing that could make Moto use the S4 instead of the OMAP5 is if TI delays the mass production of it. And I hope they have a better camera, not just bump up the MP, actually improve the optics. The camera on the Razr is good, but it didn't fair too well against the other competitors. Though, camera isn't the #1 priority for me when it comes to phones. Really, all it needs to do is match up with the next iPhone and it's Sony camera, because that's the first thing everyone is going to do is compare it to the iPhone.
39. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I mean that would be interesting to see the OMAP 5 but the question is, how good is that OMAP5 chip? Because right now, you really cant beat the S4 krait...
45. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, considering that the S4 uses what some would call a 'mock' A-15 because Qualcomm is licensed to change the around the architecture a bit, and the OMAP5 uses a real A-15, the OMAP5 should be significantly better.
If we take a look at Qualcomm's last chip, the S3, even though it was clocked at about 300 MHz more than everyone elses A-9 processors, it was still one of the lowest performing processors of it's kind.
Though some argue it was the underclocked GPU at fault for the lag for devices being run by the S3, and not the CPU, there was still alot of lag for something that was spoken to be more powerful than the rest of the A-9 processors. I mean, just the name "Snapdragon" just implies power, and the extra 300 MHz over everyone elses processors at the time (the OMAP4 and Exynos both ran at 1.2 GHz on most of the devices they were in) it seemed really great on paper, but in practice it had notable lag when compared to others.
So, if you take last years end results, you can probably guess that even though the S4 is beating out almost every processor out right now (except for the quad Exynos) that somehow Qualcomm still messed up and the REAL A-15 processors (OMAP5, Exynos5) will be lightyears ahead of the S4. I won't lie, Qualcomm probably is behind the true A-15s when it comes to power, but lets just hope there isn't as big of a gap between them as last year.
46. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Very very logical explanation, thanks for the info.. You know what? my atrix 2 i believe had an OMAP chip and i thought the atrix 2 was pretty fast for its kind...So the new OMAP 5 would be really interesting to see, especially sense you say it is the "real" A-15...once again thanks for sharing that info
48. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
No problem, and yes, the Atrix 2 ran on the same processor as the Razr does if I'm not mistaken. OMAP 4430, but at 1GHz instead of the 1.2 GHz on the Razr.
49. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
what do you think about a quad core S4 chip vs a quadcore OMAP5 vs Exynos 5 ? lol just a thought
50. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well the OMAP5 and Exynos 5 are dual-cores. That's why I compared them to the S4, because they're all A-15 dual-cores, even though Qualcomm changes it a bit. The real comparison is in the S4 Pro quad vs. the Exynos 4412 quad vs. whatever OMAP quad-core TI is making.
55. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the OMAP5 would make for a much, much better experience especially since TI will be using the multi-core PowerVR SGX544 GPU series with it which run in the hearts of the iPad 2 (Dual, MP2) and the new iPad (Quad, MP4) and then like Bezerk talked about the fact that we're talking about a genuine A-15 design. in fact i'd say that a top of the line OMAP5 like the 5560 or something that would use a Quad Core configuration for the GPU would be on par or slightly better than an S4 Pro. the preliminary comparisons between the Adreno 320 and the PowerVRSGX543(MP4) show the Adreno just swapping blows with it and TI is using the newer 544 design and on top of that if Samsung can make 4 A9s beat the Dual-Core S4 imagine what a pair of A-15s could do to 4 Kraits. anyway we can dream all we want to, Motorola would need much more time to incorporate an OMAP5 into the Razr IF it were even available last month or the month before that. that's what happened with the Bionic. Motorola found that the Tegra II wasn't compatible with LTE technology so they had to go back to square one to accommodate the OMAP4 which was compatible. SoC swaps can call for a complete design change of they're different enough. i'm sure Motorola ha learned from their mistake which is why hey've been so hush hush lately.
12. Commentator (Posts: 2172; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Neat news, but something's missing... Where's KingKurogiii at? Any Motorola-themed post just isn't complete without a smugly-grinning Wallace Wells and a comment or two worshipping the ground Motorola walks on... :(
17. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
don't worry, i'm here to make my rounds. xD
18. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
fair enough Moto, fair enough. i'd get this just for the battery life. i could have a MAXX right now but i don't like the color. lol. xD
26. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
you guys are kinda greedy! is not a 2530 mAh battery really not good enough for you?? my only question is, what size will this phone be? i hope its no higher than 4.5 inches...
31. Sniggly (Posts: 6473; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The big question is: how will that battery measure up against Verizon's LTE technology, which is still a nasty drain on energy (due to the dual CDMA/LTE chip)?
My Note does well enough with a bigger screen and slightly smaller battery, but all of AT&T's LTE phones do quite well with battery life because of the lack of necessity for multiple radios.
The Maxx kicks ass with battery life, but it's a third bigger than the battery listed here. If it measures up, and they make the price reasonable (200 dollars, dammit!) it'll do well. Oh, and if you're going to advertise 16 gigs of memory, Motorola, don't cut the usable part down to 8 f**king gigs.
33. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
man you know like i know that battery is going to hold up, why wouldnt it??....
35. Sniggly (Posts: 6473; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Because I hear complaints about 1800 mAh batteries on Verizon 4G phones not being strong enough. Those same batteries do fine on ATT LTE phones.
36. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
dude how are you gonna compare a 1800 mAh battery with a 2530 mAh battery!!! Seriously??? come on man you know that size battery will be well capable! a 2100 battery is good enough for a galaxy s3 aint it?? well this phone has wayy bigger battey than that so how is it not going to hold up?
37. Sniggly (Posts: 6473; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'm just saying I have my reservations. It'll probably be fine. You know I have major love for Motorola. If I can help it they'll be the manufacturer of my next phone.
I just would have preferred to see them throw the Maxx battery in and make it standard, but I understand there were probably cost constraints.
42. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
now that you mention the word "standard" it would definitely be a marketing advantage as well as consumer pleasing if they did in fact keep the 3300 mAh battery....BUT there is probably a reason why the droped it slightly, maybe because of the design it will bring and i know the razr maxx is slim but like i said there is definitely a reason why they chose to do what they did....And are we that power hungry and craving for more all the time to forget that majority of the phones out right now dont even cross the 1900 mAh line!! So how could you not like a battery of 2530 mAh??? I will be MOREEE than glad to have a phone with that size battery!
44. Sniggly (Posts: 6473; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Oh I like it. I was just spoiled by my first Motorola phone, which lasted me an entire goddamn month on a single charge, lol. Now, granted, I didn't use my phones NEARLY as much back then as I do now, but that phone was a freaking trooper.
I think it would be a serious powerhouse of marketing if Motorola kept releasing phones with top end specs AND which kicked the asses of any other phones' batteries. They probably aren't going for it simply from a cost standpoint though.
58. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5479; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
remember that this Razr has NFC too and this is their new Flagship so style is big factor for them and that 3300mAh battery was a pretty tight fit in the MAXX so including NFC in there and keeping it thin probably wasn't an option.
61. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
exactly, the razr maxx most definitely was a tight fit which would explain why they droped the battery but you still have a really really good battey inside the razr hd (second best)....Come on think about it, a 3300 mAh battery is GREAT but you know like i know its really an overkill...Not complaining but i would be just as satisfied with a 2530 battery the same... :)