Motorola DROID RAZR HD and Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX HD coming in October?
0. phoneArena 12 Aug 2012, 01:00 posted on
Speculation from a source characterized as being reliable has some great news for those waiting for the Motorola DROID RAZR HD; not only is the device expected to launch in October, but there will also be a version with a higher battery capacity called the Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX HD...
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1. mas11 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Solid phone and it's good that Moto is releasing the MAXX at the same time as the regular. My biggest issue is that the back is extremely ugly. The Atrix HD looks 100x better.
10. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i'm more inclined to believe that the one with the V shaped Kevlar Pattern is the real one being that it actually has the Verizon Branding and maybe this is the MAXX HD but an extra 770mAh really isn't enough to warrant the production of another handset so if the MAXX HD is real it would need a good enough bump to justify like 4000mAh+ and this doesn't seem to be thicker than the V shaped variant we've seen so this could possibly be the International Variant and we haven't seen the MAXX HD yet IF it's even real so yeah, i'm really shaking my salt shaker on this one and no, i'm not talking about in the way that Lil Jon means in his song. xD
11. Ubi2447 (Posts: 131; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
I agree completely. THis Maxx idea is a bit silly. Unless the battery is HUGE then I'm not sure they would even need a Maxx. The difference in mAhs between ~2500 and 3300 is almost negligible. It's all fodder for the rumor mill.
33. tedkord (Posts: 5129; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It's a 30% bump. That's not significant? I'd take the extra 30% any day.
83. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
of course you would but for Motorola is senseless to launch a phone just to have a 30% increase in battery life over the Razr HD.
50. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"The difference in mAhs between ~2500 and 3300 is almost negligible."
I just don't know what to say...
89. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
"The difference in mAhs between ~2500 and 3300 is almost negligible" - Could please explain it ? I've little knowledge about battery mAh matter.
14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
HAHAHA.... man, i like the way you think lol.....The razr maxx hd here does not seem like it is real...I think the Razr HD is more a real phone than the maxx hd..... the design looks good to me as well....Hope to see more of this phone as im not counting on the Razr Maxx to manifest it self unless there is something really special about it like the S4 pro and 3500 mAh or like you said 4000 mAh (although i dont think that much battery is going to be seen anytime soon) but the maxx is definitely out the question to me...
16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah but you never know. Motorola really has been on the ball with power saving techniques and manufacturing slimmer batteries with more juice so maybe they do have something in the bag for us that we wouldn't think was possible before but to be on the safe side let's let the MAXX HD retain it's secrecy until there's something less ridiculous and more solid about it.
17. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
sounds like gossip to be honest with ya....but you never know......To me its kinda like one of the post below said....Why dont they concentrate on making one complete device? And that device should be the Razr HD.....It just seems more like a logical and real phone than the Razr Maxx HD would be....It would almost make no sense at all to release that phone with out the s4 pro and other stuff like that......So once again this sounds like gossip
20. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, at this point i completely agree with you but i can have an open mind about this. if they want to keep the MAXX option alive it very well better be worth it.
25. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
ya know what man? you know like I know, that if they do decide to release the Maxx HD it would catch about as much attention as the iphone 5 is getting!And that means its going to blow up in sales given the fact that the original Maxx was very successful in sales it would only make sense that this one would be too.....To me, they could leave the Maxx HD with the SAME battery (3300 mAh) and still give it the S4 pro and the device will be the best thing since sliced bread......Know what im saying?
27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, especially if the iPhone will in fact have a tiny battery despite it's LTE connectivity. it'll be the same as the 4S and the MAXX but on a larger magnitude. Motorola is hitting everybody where it hurts.
30. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
man you got me thinking about concentration on one phone now.....like i mentioned in that post above.....think about this for a second, we already said that the Razr Maxx HD would literally blow up right? Well think about this
MOTOROLA DROID RAZR MAXX HD
4.6-4.7 inch display
8 or 12 mp camera (prolly 8)
Quad Core S4 Pro adreno 320 (or even adreno 225 would be good)
3300 mAH battery
66. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Me either, but its motorola... and the initial rumors were that it would feature a 13MP camera (of course, MP don't mean anything, expecially on a Moto cam) so I am thinking that might be a posibility.
And why are they keeping the Razr name if the original has already been beaten my mulitple devices (notably the One S) and the device is said to be thicker? Seems strange.
70. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2569; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Actually, no. The One S is HTC's thinnest phone, but it's not thinner than the Razr. One S = 7.8mm. Razr = 7.1 mm. The world's current thinnest smartphone is the Oppo Finder at 6.65mm, however, ZTE is releasing the Athena soon which is supposed to 6.2mm.
The naming is more for marketing purposes than anything else. Motorola doesn't care whether or not it's really the world's thinnest smartphone. The point of the name was to capitalize on the popularity of the old flip phone Razr. Brand recognition goes a long way. Being able to call it the world's thinnest smartphone at the time was just an added perk.
73. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
what you should do is look up reviews for the Chinese Variants of the Razr that have the 13MP Sensors. i would imagine that they're not a far cry from what we should expect from the Razr HD.
like g2a5b0e pointed out the Razr is still the thinnest phone in the states but as far as the HD goes i guess that's why Moto opted for the 2530mAh for the Razr HD because they can probably make it thinner than the other phones in it's class with that size of battery.
64. brandnew234 (Posts: 18; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)
There haven't been any reports of a Maxx variant, but it would make sense.
The original Droid RAZR had a battery of 1780mAh, and the Maxx had 3300. So if they make the battery proportionally larger, with a battery of 2530 for the HD the Maxx variant should have a battery of roughly 4600 mAh, crushing every battery put inside any phone ever. Including phablets.
65. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2569; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Yeah, but that's not gonna happen in actuality. Most 7" tablets have batteries in the 4,000mAH range. If they really end up doing a Maxx version, the battery will definitely be less than that.
74. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that even beats the Battery in my Xyboard and it lasts almost two days with an OMAP4 and a 720p Display. o:
41. AppleRoyally (banned) (Posts: 7; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)
I kinda like this phone, but the GPU is still not known! It should be near nuff the iPhone4s gpu, then yes®
68. sgogeta4 (Posts: 392; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)
Too bad it will have a locked/encrypted bootloader and low modding community for custom ROMs. While I know that there are work arounds, it still doesn't compensate for a totally unlocked bootloader like the Samsung GN. If I were into stock phones though, I'd definitely pick the Droid HD Maxx over any other phone currently on the market, though we'll have to see what else is out when/if this comes out.
75. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
we might see this thing come with an unlocked Bootloader if the Photon Q is any indication.
2. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4104; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
It would be fine if they released another MAXX, just as long as they release it at the same time. A lot of Razr owners were pretty angry that Moto came out with the exact same phone they bought earlier, just with a huge battery. Maybe they will use close to a 3800 mAh battery this time?
I was really hoping Moto would use the OMAP5 instead of the S4 to be sort of different, but it looks like they are using the S4 after all. The only thing I can possibly look forward to now is that maybe they'll use the S4 Pro with that Adreno 320 GPU, if not, then I'll probably be looking the other way and lean towards the next Nexus.
12. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, if they differentiate the Razr HD and the MAXX HD the same way they did the Razr and the MAXX by making the Razr the slimmer, more attractive and personal option with the different color variants and the MAXX being a pure productivity powerhouse with no frills but this time launching them at the same time should make this a solid launch but if they're coming in October i'd kind of want more on the power front in the form of either an S4 Pro (which i'm still iffy about it coming this year) or an OMAP5 and even if they did i'd wait to check out the Nexus which would work out perfect because i'd want these to have a little bit of time to devalue because i'm not in such a hurry to upgrade from my Razr thus meaning i don't want to spend too much for a Razr HD upgrade.
3. FrostyDanny (Posts: 90; Member since: 15 Jul 2012)
What's the point of having a battery if you can't take it out and replace it with a different one? Plus its takes VERY long to charge the RAZR I'm not hatting I loved my razr but that's why I switched to the GalaxyS3
5. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
Hey that has to be true.....Although the battery is long enough to last the entire day it would make sense that you gonna have to charge it for a long time too! Kinda inconvenient when you think about it.
This is why i believe the Razr MAXX HD is just a rumor and not real......The Razr HD with the 2500 mAh battery is probably the best thing that will happen to the mobile world..It is going to have all the top notch specs like the galaxy S3 but with a way bigger battery and a better design as well, you really dont need that 3300 mAh battery becasue the 2500 mAh is already blowing the S3 out and will last twice as long as the S3 will........We got a winner Moto
24. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
I wouldn't say the battery either blows the S3 out or will last twice as long ... lol
31. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
2100 mAh from 2500 mAh battery is a 400 mAh difference but look at it like this.....
1400 mAh from 1800 mAh
1500 mAh from 1900 mAh
or 1600 mAh from 2000 mAh
the difference is clearer now aint it........ :)
thats why i said it would blow the S3 out because a 400 difference is honestly a substantial amount in terms of battery capacity..
48. MAXXtreme007 (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
400mAh may make a big difference when the sizes are small. ie 100mAh vs 400mAh = 4x a difference in capacity. 400mAh vs 800mAh = 2x a difference in capacity. 2100mAh (GSIII) va 2500mAh (RAZR HD) = 1.19x a difference in capacity. But if you put numbers really big there is hardly any difference... 1,000,000mAh vs 1,000,400mAh = 1.0004x a difference in capacity. 400mAh doesn't always make a difference like you said in your analogy. XD
49. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Just saw this post, and lol.. Think of the HTC One X (1800mAh) vs Galaxy S3 (2100mAh)... Furthermore, battery life leans more towards the Galaxy S3 when you coinsider what technologies each phones employ. i.e. Colorboost vs. AMOLED.... S4 Pro vs S4 ..
55. MAXXtreme007 (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
Look I wasn't saying that the extra 400mAh would be super nice - because it would be...
His analogy however is completely false because 400mAh wouldn't make the battery "blow away" the S3 in terms of battery life. Sure it would & will make a difference but not enough to it away "blow away".
I upgraded my Evo 3D battery to a 3500mAh battery recently & it is absolutely wonderful though! So bigger batteries are always welcome & nice! :D
56. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
Ok ill go easy on you and take back the "blow away" term since nobody wants the galaxy s3 to be "blown away" LOL....I'll just say it will be noticeably better than the galaxy s3? sound fair?
60. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
It has nothing to do with us wanting the Galaxy S3 to be "blown" away... I guess you are assuming that we are Samsung fanboys? =0 ..
Remember, battery life is dependant on more than simply how many mAh are actually stored within the battery. There are different factors as well -- OS and screen technologies being the other most common differentiating factors between most phones nowadays when comparing battery life. The Razr ups the ante a little bit more with Adreno 320, which in itself will may use up more battery than oldie S4, but only time will tell there. Qualcomm promises "All-day battery life" with the S4 pro, but we will witness that for ourselves soon. Then there's ColorBoost, which, in most scenarios, will suck in more power than AMOLED, exemplified by the Atrix HD's less-than-pleasurable battery performance. Granted, the consumer market hasn't been made privy to the actual specifics of ColorBoost, but we can still work off what we have. Factor in all these variables, then you can see why the 400mAh difference can shrink to almost negligible performance enhancements. Obviously, extra battery should show a difference somewhere, but I think people are looking at this increase in capacity in the wrong light. TBH, I don't think Motorola used more battery to push the 10-hour bar any higher, in this case, but to fortify the backbone of the device. Seeing how it will utilize superior albeit, power-consumptive components, it would only be logical to increase battery life. These specifications on a 2100mAh certainly wouldn't hold up 10 hours with consistency of the lower powered Galaxy S3, for example. Granted, most of what I'm saying can either be true or false, depending on how you look at it, but the scenarios I explain here are certainly possible.
If this device can hold 10 hours, it will have many reasons to proclaim itself the best Android phone. However, as I said in the first comment, to the resent of many people, Motorola will have to share attention with powerhouses like the iPhone 5, and possible the next Nexus device, and it certainly won't outshine either, seeing how Motorola has sunken out of the spotlight recently, heavily out-shadowed by HTC and Samsung.
61. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
dude i honestly didn't read that post lol.......but most people it seems are "galaxy s3" fan boys sorry....
62. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Lol, no offense dude, but if you are going to defend an ideal as passionately as you are, it makes no sense to simply shy off as soon as someone substantiates they're own ideals, you know? I mean, what have you done on this post:
1. Defend Motorola on excessive, unsubstantiated bases.
2. Call everyone who disagrees with you a fanboy, which is ironic because your name is XPERIA-KNIGHT... -___-
Just saying, lol..
63. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
i never called anyone a fan boy "IN HERE"....just saying it seems that alot of people are GS3 fan boys.....and after watchin vids of the ONE X and GS3 people are holding the S3 up like its the best thing ever......when the One X isnt even on android 4.0.4 and the GS3 is!! I say wait until they are on the same level with each other and then do a fair comparison and not just make people believe that since its the "galaxy s3" it is untouchable......so thats what kinda makes me think most people are fanyboys ya know? and about not reading your post? im pretty sure you could have sumed up your point in less words than that
67. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
There are several distinct reasons the Galaxy S3 is better than the HTC One X, most of which don't have anything to do with what firmware of Android they are running.
The run-down basically includes camera quality, camera options, UI features and stability(Sammy has been historically better than HTC at UI optimization, so whether or not Sense is cleansed with 4.0.4 is anyone's guess, but very unlikely), Removable battery/bigger battery/more battery life, expandable storage .. Most if not all of those advantages are objective in nature, so you wouldn't be a fanboy by saying the GS3 is a better, more well-rounded choice. Granted, the One X is now only 99$, which skyrockets the value, but if price is no object, the GS3 is the clearly superior phone.
72. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
Well to me the galaxy S3 is more of a geeks phone than it is an "everybody" phone......Just like the galaxy S3 "blows" it out in specs like you like to think...I think the HTC One X "blows" the galaxy S3 out in design! Now if i wanna be satisfied about making a GREAT choice when deciding on a phone....I will not only go for "Specs" of a phone but design and specs both.......while the One X may not be better than the S3 in that area it certainly is more of a well rounded device.......Great Design....Good specs not as great....but good.......and also a better price tag.... You are paying sum 600 to 700 hundred dollars for a phone that only satisfies the "geek" side of you....when you can have beauty, comfort, and power with a much lower price tag.......
IMO thats the better choice any day all day...
77. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
"Well to me the galaxy S3 is more of a geeks phone than it is an "everybody" phone" -- Considering that is purely subjective, you understand why it cannot be used in this argument.
"I think the HTC One X "blows" the galaxy S3 out in design" -- Well, they are both made out of the same poly-carbonate exterior, the Galaxy S3 layered with Hyperglaze that protects it even further from scratching, though it gives the phone a plastic-y feel. The Galaxy S3 is actually thinner than the One X and sports a more ergonomic design, though the Unibody construction of the One X is much more appealing to the eye. Add all this together, and you can definitely say the One X is better than the Galaxy S3 aesthetically, but I don't know if "blows" out is the right term, considering this is completely subjective.
"Now if i wanna be satisfied about making a GREAT choice when deciding on a phone"
"I will not only go for "Specs" of a phone but design and specs both" -- Well, yes, but you were doubting why people chose the Galaxy S3 to be better than the HTC One X in reviews. Considering the aesthetics come down to opinion, and the Galaxy S3 benefits much more from it's design than HTC One X, the only basis off which the reviewer could judge the phones would be specs.
"while the One X may not be better than the S3 in that area it certainly is more of a well rounded device"
AREAS* first of all -- You're over exaggerating the minute aesthetic flaws of the Galaxy S3. All-in-all, the S3 is definitely a more well-rounded device. You base your conclusion off your personal distaste of the S3 design.
"Great Design....Good specs not as great....but good.......and also a better price tag"
Design - Yes
Sepcs - Definitely not as great
Price Tag - I mentioned that
"you are paying sum 600 to 700 hundred dollars for a phone that only satisfies the "geek" side of you....when you can have beauty, comfort, and power with a much lower price tag......."
I don't even know where to start here... So I won't.
"IMO thats the better choice any day all day..."
"IMO" basically sums up that entire rant.
79. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
yep and the update to android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 will put it where it belongs.......better than the galaxy S3
as well as the One S which is actually better than the one x and the S3...lol
86. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
71. MAXXtreme007 (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
Yes agreed! Big batteries are very nice. 400mAh probably won't make a "huge" difference but it is always welcome! Especially in these newer phones with bigger screens.
13. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
Not all people is as rich as you that buying ten battery with an overpriced device. Mind as well buy two razr maxx with that kind of price. Just in case one get stolen.
Find a financial consultant before you speak.
15. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's exaggerated all the way around the bat. you don't need 10 batteries and batteries are cheap when you get them from places like Amazon. before the Razr i was known to carry an extra Battery or two with me for my Droid 3 and my Droid 2 before it.
22. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
Good for you but not all people think in this way tho, they are not tech geeks like us and most people charge it overnight everyday instead of keep remove the battery which may hurt the back cover. Do you know what I mean? People still prepare the budget when buying the phone.
26. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
oh yeah, i see the advantages of large non-removable batteries. really the Razr HD will be able to serve the Average Joe's needs just fine with it's 2530mAh battery and 28nm based SoC and another MAXX would overkill in the battery life department and i don't see charging it being a problem for these but i know myself how nice it is to be able to have a fully charged spare battery if you need it. it's more of a better to have it and not need it kind of thing with most people but in this case non-removable won't be a problem and you'll have the advantage of better build quality.
28. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
Let's hope it will be 4000mah that able to last 48 hours
39. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
I got the Droid RAZR on release day... 11/11/11. The ICS update was done a couple weeks ago.
How exactly did you swap for an S3? When did you ever burn out a full charge in a single day? Why do you think 45 min is a long time to fully charge? Why don't you havea car charger? Certainly you have USB ports in your car like mine...why not use them?
Do you actually expect us to believe you dropped $299 on the RAZR...then paid early term fees...then bought an S3? If you did, you are a fool. I call BS though.
69. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5636; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i hope you're not using the USB ports in your car to charge the phone because that would be slower than using the cigarette lighter adapter thing and not everybody has USB Ports in their car.
he wouldn't have necessarily had to cancel his contract to get an SIII, he could've used something like Swappa, Craigslist or the Forums to trade or sell his Razr and bought an SIII outright or bought one someone was selling. all of which would've been cheaper than what you accused him of.
4. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
they seriously need to stop this madness. why not just one have-it-all device? one that could compete directly with the s 3, one x and iphone 5 for months to come... not by adding more words and specs little by little.
8. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1052; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Did you forget? This is Moto. They put out 4 different phones within 4 months with the tiniest variations all on the same carrier and now hasn't had one for 6 months. Either they like surprises or hate logic.
36. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
it's a phone and the same phone with a bigger battery pack, is that really madness to you?
i say it's madness not to! You can have some money and still get a phone with a bigger battery than anything else on the market, or pay a little more and still have all the goodness of that same phone. It's a win win for everyone.
6. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Back looks obscene -- going from the razr to the Atrix to the razr hd, it seems Moto is getting progressively worse in the asthetic department ... Seeing as how late Moto is releasing this device, it would only make sense to opt for S4 Pro or OMAP 5, anything less would be unusual. I think the release date makes this a difficult device for everyone -- the Nexus will be right around the corner, and will probably offer superior specs. Plus,it will be hard to establish itself in the midst of iPhone 5 mania. Then there's the rumored HTC One X+ with superior specs to its predecessor. Moto better have something serious in the works... because this phone will not get the attention that the competing flag-ship devices did, and the Atrix HD didn't show any real threatening signs
I say wait till this thing comes out to judge it, but Moto has a thin window..