Motorola DROID RAZR, DROID BIONIC, Galaxy S II and iPhone 4S spec smackdown
1. dhruba (Posts: 27; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I think their success will depend on the software performance
2. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And let the Apple bashing commence. This despite the fact that iPhone 4S is right in line spec wise with all the other phones.
4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4079; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You would only say that because you feel the iPhone 4S with its dual-core running 800MHz is in fact inferior. If you truly felt the iPhone 4S was the best you would not have felt the need to even say that!
16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
No the reason I said that is everything Apple is inevitably filled with trolls bashing it. This time surprisingly I don't see any yet.
23. AKm007 (Posts: 108; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
Taco, your apple is running 800mhz of A5's like evo just said. And 512 mb of ram is a downer. You can't say otherwise. There would be a few idiots who would start bashing it....but now you started the fight and expected everyone to keep quiet?? That's a bit unfair.And besides, the reason the iphone is disappointing is the fact that the next model will only come out next year. IF an android isn't up to scratch, wait a few months and you'll get a model that will do the needful. But with the iphone, there's no hope for options. You get the same dish whether you love it or hate it.
37. pandamaja (Posts: 16; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Android guy here. I don't really think your ram argument is 100% valid. iOS and android are completely different operation systems. They handle running applications and background tasks completely differently. You only need as much RAM as the system will use. I have an feeling that with the way iOS handles background tasks, 512mb is probably sufficient.
42. shipstylin (Posts: 5; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Not to date myself, I agree, but this all reminds me so very much of the pc wars of the 90's and RAM is king, the more the better and it won't hurt anything so why not add more RAM, I am sure everyone on here will gladly pay another $30 or $40 for 2Gb of RAM whether it really makes a difference or not.
43. AKm007 (Posts: 108; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
I was only stating facts. But if your argument is correct, then i would like to put forth that it only needs 512 mb because it can't do true multitasking. It also has the most amazing bluetooth, but file-transfers being disabled is a backward step. Then the fact that its made of some fragile glass also makes it lose in the durability section. It's no longer the thinnest with the likes of the galaxy S2 and the motorola droid razr. It's also not the the only smooth thing. The reason people say that android lags so much is the fact that they have seen it run on less capable phones.
The SGS2 is as smooth as the iphone. It's browsing is also better than it with flash support. It's camera is still better. And in the end, the iphone gives no extendible memory and with 64GB memory cards out, this will be an even bigger issue. and not to mention the small screen size. People who say that 4 inches are too big either have really small hands or are trolling. I had difficulty typing on a sensation and that is a huge phone. I could go on and on...but I've already proved that the iphone has major issues just jumping on from one version to the next. And in the end, it is a failure to techies who actually understand the science of a phone and a company and don't depend on commercials and hype to buy a smartphone. I rest my case.
55. McLTE (Posts: 699; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Another Android guy here..
seriously.. get off your Android horse!
Bottom line is that the iPhone is a good phone. The fact that the dual core A5 can be as good as it is at 800mhz is pretty awesome I think. At the end of the day, who cares about how many MHZ the processor is if it preforms smoothly and without problem.
It pretty much boils down to the fact that Apple has their ecosystem so tightly integrated that they can optimize for this kind of processor.
Comparing numbers between the phones is kind of pointless in regards to processor speed and RAM.
Personally, I think that's great.. go Apple! I'm still an Android fan. Period. I enjoy the OS and what it has to offer over iOS. I'm very much looking forward to the Razr and PRIME, which I would happily take over an iPhone any day.
But, just because I enjoy Android, doesn't take away from the fact that Apple makes one hell of a phone! It's just not for me.
33. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4079; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
So are you doing a preemptive remark to the non existing trolling. To me that sounds more like instigation than anything else. It's just that you came off as a bad guy in this. There really was no reason for the comment. It’s just that you are looking for some type of confrontation or something!
47. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
taco, i completely agree with evo here. i hate the android trolling, but the apple trolling (though less), is just as bad. you instigating isnt helping anything.
i really, really like the razr. if only it came with ICS, i would really like to have it. i get the feeling it will sell pretty well despite the prime being announced and launched at the same time.
60. Ivan6479 (Posts: 244; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yeah give me a break taco, the only reason you said what you said is because you know your precious iPhone is just not up to par like Androids are and also because your buddy's at PhoneArena were nice enough to leave off the specs of the ram and processor of the iPhone and they also left out the specs of the front facing cameras, which your precious iPhone still only has a VGA, while the others at least have 1.3MP and the Galaxy S2 has a 2.0MP.
Oh and then there is that 3.5" display, which is nearly an inch smaller then all the other devices, which you might say an inch doesn't really make that big of a difference, but I bet your girl would beg to differ. If you have one that is.
Anyways I hardly think that is right inline spec wise. You iTard!
65. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
whoa. . . that must've hurt taco's feeling (about the extra inch)
52. elite monkey (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
exactly instead of saying dual core A5 why didnt they give the clock speed like the rest of them dual core 800Mhz
58. jacko (unregistered)
u can never have too much mhz and/or ram
5. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Well if you call the wolf the wolf will come, but hey o guess you like that don't you?
6. Dwoogs (Posts: 20; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
My only gripe with the iPhone 4S is the screen size. Honestly if it was a 4.3 screen I would consider trying it out.
59. jacko (unregistered)
i dont like the iphone but i would have to try it if it had a 4" or 4.3" screen
7. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
I think the Iphone is a great phone, but just not for me. Its easy to use, has great applications, very fast, amazing camera, and a very good looking screen.
I just wont own one because: it has a small screen, it needs itunes and what not to be able to add music, video, etc. It has no hdmi output. no extendible memory, and finally its made of glass.
Again these are all IMO. to each their own.
8. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
specs sheet will always be different from the real world... let's just enjoy what we have and not bash others...
28. shayan (Posts: 148; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
now somthing is really wrong with this sites comment section.
even though Im an android fan, and hate apple ( I like iphones, ipod, and prity much everything they make, just hate their marketing and closed system) , I really agree with this guys comment. and I really dont get why should anyone thumbsdown it.
is it just because he is an iOS fan??
10. DougD84 (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
I would tend to agree with the other replies:
Even though the screen size is an issue, it is otherwise comparable to the other phones it is stacked against. However, the big kicker for me is the lack of LTE/4G. When every other flagship phone is getting the LTE treatment from Verizon, it makes the 4s an unappealing choice.
13. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
why would you make a phone out of glass? isnt that a bit you know retarded? its an accident waiting to happen just so apple can get you to buy another
25. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Guy just love trying to incite fights... but I guess it keeps things interesting.
34. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You know, I wouldn't have said anything derogatory about the iPhone had you not gone and done this whole stupid victim complex thing... and I still won't.
I will say that considering the battery issues some people are already having with the 4S, it's probably a good thing that Apple held off on LTE, although Motorola has basically just spanked them by releasing a device that relegates the 4S to "third thinnest smartphone ever" that still runs on LTE and has damn good battery life, comparable to or better than the much thicker Bionic.
53. Whateverman (Posts: 3205; Member since: 17 May 2009)
@taco50. Great move! Invite bashing and then cry later on about people bashing...brilliant! There are a few iphone fans you could take a que from who love there iphones just as much as you, but they dont waste time baiting the Android fans...Wasup Vette!
With that out of the way, the Droid Razr is looking REALLY good right about now. I was hopin the Galaxy Nexus would have a better showing, but it just left me confused as to why no Galaxy S 2 for VZW. I know ICS is the next evolution of Android, but with no LTE, no Exynos chip, and 5MP camera, I kinda feel like they announced the iPhone 4S all over again. Not to say it wouldn't be a winner, but higher specs would be a great selling point.
64. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6499; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
You do realize that the iphone have the smallest screen and is the thickest phone out of the four. DROID RAZR have to be the thinnest phone to date.
9. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
I'm glad to see super amoled as opposed to the LCD on the bionic. I'm just hoping moto has an all new camera because their cams on the droids have been awful
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The quality of shots I've gotten on Motorola's phones have been pretty damn good, actually. I've had no complaints.
11. Dadler22 (Posts: 161; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
iPhone processor clock and ram is mysteriously missing from the chart LOL
19. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
a5 chip in iphone is dual core 800mhz and ram is 512 ddr
12. gtrxman (Posts: 109; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
So nice of iPhone Arena to omit inferior iPhone specs. Not bashing the iPhone, but really Phone Arena... 4S processor is 1ghz and has 512mb RAM. If you're going to lay out the specs, lay them out.
14. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
No one has actually confirmed the specs. Everyone's guess is ~800MHz dual-core and 512MB RAM, but it's not confirmed, that's why they're omitted.
Anyway, once again, it's nice to see these specs vs one another, but it really comes down to which device gives you a better experience. Don't judge on specs alone here people. Let them guide you, but not influence your purchase decision too strongly.
15. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Correct Apple doesn't announce a lot of their specs.
21. remixfa (Posts: 13909; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there was internal clock testing done on the 4s, which revealed its 800mhz nature. Its been confirmed.. just not by apple. Thats why they say "dual core" but wont say what mhz it runs at. people will immediately go "its not 1ghz, it sucks", no matter if it runs well or not.
Apple may not be a lot of things, but they know how to market and redirect attention away from things they dont want seen.
36. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Actually, iFixit confirmed 512 MB of RAM when they tore the 4S down, and I believe testing has indicated the 800 MHz clock speed. Apple underclocks their processors to save battery life, and iOS has traditionally been a low power consumer anyway.
50. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Good call...so it will be similar to the iPhone 4 labeling (although dual core), 800MHz with an asterisk. Never to be revealed by Apple until Jobs gives the ok.
18. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
Who cares about the iphone!!
The DROID RAZR is a beast!! Battery life seems great too!
20. xenover (Posts: 172; Member since: 27 May 2011)
iPhone's only downsides, imo, are the small screen, no customizability and no 3rd party apps. I don't care much for flash enabled web browsing. But as always, everything comes down to users' preferences.
24. tech-head (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Sep 2011)
What kind of processor is in the RAZR? GPU?
54. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
4460 omap 1.2 1gb ddr2 ram power vr sgx540
27. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
im really liking that phone its going to be a monster
29. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6499; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Iphone loss on the RAM, NO EXTERNAL MEMORY, OR NO EXTERNAL BATTERY tiny ass screen only 3.5" while everyone else is 4" or higher. The only winner here I hate to say is the DROID RAZR. But the DROID RAZR loose on it's OS BLUR custom which every one hates. but still DROID RAZR wins THINNEST PHONE TO DATE
31. gtrxman (Posts: 109; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
No such thing as Blur anymore. All Moto Gingerbread builds now have MAP which is really nothing more than a few animations and a nice selection of widgets. Don't knock on it, it's WAY less intrusive than Touch Wiz or Sense.
BTW, battery on this is built-in and appears to be non-replaceable, hence the battery pak.
30. gtrxman (Posts: 109; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
Beyond the specs, this thing has a boatload of accessories. Extended battery pack, two different lapdocks, HDMI dock with remote that can still take calls with bluetooth. Kudos to Moto. This is the kind of innovation I expect from the company that invented the cell phone. They really hit this one out of the park.
There's no way they could have launched this with ICS given Goog's Prime anouncement, but given the push behind this baby, there's no way it doesn't get ICS.
32. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Ummm, they forgot to mention that the iPhone 4s has an 800 MHz Dual core proccessor and 512 Ram only.
66. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Already covered in the comments.....it's not confirmed.
38. turys719 (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I LOVE APPLE...
HOW GOOD IS IT TO SEE MOTOROLA REPLACING FLAGSHIP PHONE IN LESS THEN SIX MONTHS. LOL THAT IS STUPID. WELL IS JUST ANOTHER DROOOOID.LOL
SAMSUNG CHARGE SAMSUNG GALAXY FACINATE NEXUS PRIME. LOL LOL
HOW ABOUT I PHONE 4S, IOS5 THATS IS CLASS.
SEEMS LIKE NOT ONE PERSON CARE ABOUT THE SMACKDOWN ONLY THE IPHONE 4 S.
40. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
67. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
I agree! That brought a huge smile to my face...gotta love Billy Madison!
45. Cyd07 (Posts: 83; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)
You're a rude guy (girl ?). No one told you ever you shouldn't speak loud when it's not necessary ?
And the Razr is damn good. In my opinion, it is only now than the IPhone vs Android can take place. No other Droid is near than one of these two phones in terms of design.
And we often read, some weaks ago, comments bashing Motorola, because they would be not in the field, far ahead, etc. Hem...it's the compagny that made the Razr V3. Pay some respect. And see what they do now...
PS : it's funny that the best competitor of the Google Nexus Prime, will be the phone of the compagny that Google just bought !
39. turys719 (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
WHAT A BIGGER SCREEN JUST GET AN IPAD. UPS SORRY THERE NOT GOING FOR 1 PENNY IN AMAZON LIKE THE DROOOOOIDS. LOL.
41. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. I've known sheep who could outwit you. I've worn pants with higher IQs, but you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape?
44. robinrisk (unregistered)
That was the most amazing and elegant bashing i've ever seen. Ima print this.!
48. Sniggly (Posts: 7048; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I must admit that I stole that one. I was going with the whole "movie insult" theme I started with the quote from Billy Madison above. :)
46. ElectroManiac (Posts: 47; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
Sniggly how can you dare to insult apes with this living thing named turys719 by calling him an ape?
Apes are wayy smarter.