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Motorola DROID 2 signal issues mount in reviews, Apple tries hard to hide a smirk

0. phoneArena 16 Aug 2010, 05:49 posted on

Some tech sites that reviewed the DROID 2 are complaining about antenna problems on the phone that seem to have nothing to do with Verizon's network...

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posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:47

1. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


This seems to make sense, I got my Droid 2 the day it came out and battery life has been absolutely abismal. My guess would be firmware as opposed to an antenna issue since I have a case around it, so there's no contact there.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 07:13

2. DonkeyPunched (Posts: 321; Member since: 10 Jan 2010)


Oh no, brace yourselves. Hopefully this is just a firmware issue. That would suck if it was like the iPhone. I don't think apple will come out with a "I told you so" video. I mean we all want to believe they would want to, but I think they currently have enough shit to take care of themselves rather than point fingers. I know they did already, but there musta been something to get them to took down those videos, like everyone started believing that the problem was real. Anyway, hopefully there's some fix for the prob.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 19:07

28. Phone Arena Admin (unregistered)


Do you know what else is like the iPhone? Wee Woo Wee Woo

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 22:17

31. jherz6 (Posts: 215; Member since: 23 May 2008)


True that, they do. The lawsuit from oricle {Spellcheck offline}. The java folks. The engineer incharge of iphone engineering quitting or should I say fired over the iphone 4 fiasco. They have enough headaches of there own.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 07:18

3. rmcb21 (unregistered)


Well if they would test these phone better give out several hundred an let folks use them they are making them so dang fast money money money money that's all its about

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 12:32

18. bad verizon, bad verizon (unregistered)


I think its the testers. They don't really test, they just show off what new phone they have. Testers that verizon use are idiot execitives that don't even know how to use a phone.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 19:09

29. Phone Arena Admin (unregistered)


That is a stupid comment. Wee Woo Wee Woo

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 19:13

30. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


Wow, who let this guy out? So you really think they have suits working around the clock twiddling thunbs waiting till 5pm so they can punch out, and not test the phone...Are you kidding? Obviously there are network specialists, obviously they are testing the phone "As close" to real world situation as possible. The other thing, dont act like you wouldnt have opted early to receive this device if it had a few software bugs but mostly good. I know most people in here would just to get their hands on one.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 22:26

32. jherz6 (Posts: 215; Member since: 23 May 2008)


Really that sounds more like Apple to me. There more money hungry then anyone. You cant insure your iphone so if you damage yours can you say full price to replace it cha ching says the cash register. If you say the testers were poor, well sounds like they are the same ones Apple used to test the iphone 4.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 22:27

33. jherz6 (Posts: 215; Member since: 23 May 2008)


No dumber than yours. Wee Woo Wee Woo???

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 12:10

39. Phullofphil (Posts: 798; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


apple gets the same amount no mater what on each new phone. Its att that either pays the rest or not. subsidize

posted on 19 Aug 2010, 13:59

48. bucky (Posts: 1222; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


actually if anything, android phone from htc, samsung and motorola are getting pushed out like crazy. There is a new one every week. They need to slow things down a bit and take their time.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 07:53

4. Sniggly (Posts: 6496; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Could be either or. However, unlike a fundamental design flaw like the Iphone problems, it's probably a defect on either end, just like the X screens. Either way, it'll probably be fixed, and I doubt Motorola will need a news conference to do it.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 08:25

5. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


I hope it's software, although just a defective batch means I can take mine in for a replacement.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 09:10

6. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)


Oh well, Moto should work on 2.2 for the X before they work on the 2.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 10:10

10. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


Oh yeah, let Motorola work on porting 2.2 to a working phone while the rest of the early Droid 2 adopters sit around and wait for a fix to the signal/battery issue. Not very smart.

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 12:12

40. Phullofphil (Posts: 798; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


Motorola is not just one goofy bastard siting in a room working on stuff. They probably have teams on each phone untill they move on to the next phone. Each problem is guaranteed being worked on at the same time

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 09:54

7. trentsinmypants (Posts: 312; Member since: 29 Jan 2009)


Im currently experiencing this connection issue. :( Pandora cant make it through one song without having to stop and wait to re-gain cellular connection. My internet connect drops pretty freqently too.....I seriously hope its just a firmware upgrade thats needed.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 10:09

9. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


I haven't tried using Pandora yet, how's your battery life? I can't get through an entire work day if I use the internet/text as much as I did with my LG ENV TOUCH. I know it's not a fair comparision, but we're not even saying I "squeeked" by the day, it's more of a 12pm the phone is dead.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 11:27

13. Dood (Posts: 269; Member since: 23 Mar 2009)


I'm having a crap ton of issues on my Droid 1 after uping to version 2.2. It's got to be software, right?

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 12:03

16. fishpower187 (Posts: 88; Member since: 22 Feb 2010)


Yeah, me too. My Droid was money before the 2.2 upgrade, and I am using the FRG32 (update TO the update) build. Still, my device has destroyed my MicroSD card twice, the keyboard doesnt work as well, and it simply doesn't act as "snappy" as priior to the update. It's a bummer for me; all of my photos and videos are gone thanks to this stupid update. Thanks Droid!

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 10:02

8. belve14 (Posts: 113; Member since: 31 Mar 2009)


I personally dont like either of the Motorola droids...the X is cool so is the incredible...all phones have a problem or 2 or 3 well you get the point. It is hilarious though how people are ready to hop on the hater bandwagon when there is an issue with a phone and talk about how horrible the carrier is. You gotta love the hate...but the funny part also sad in a way is regardless of a phone on whatever carrier having a problem...people still buy it...weird

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 12:05

17. fishpower187 (Posts: 88; Member since: 22 Feb 2010)


Really, people are haters because they are upset that their phones are not working as they should? Hell man, my Droid was awesome...that is until the 2.2 update came out, and now I just don't use it. Luckily, I've also got a Droid X, which has been a stud so far. Are you going to call me a hater for pointing out the obvious?

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 14:04

21. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


I think the point belve14 is tryin to make is that there is a diff. between pointing out a flaw and bitchin about phone issues. You go from bein a supporter of Droid to a hater very easily. My X signal fluctuates sometimes and i have some connection issues with the web but not significant enough so i don't bitch about it. Also i don't get a day of batt. life where i use to get 2 days with the original Droid. Oh well, still like the phone. Yes a phone is supposed to work but no one said it was going to be 100%. I have a car but if the brakes go out i'm not goin to curse GM. Shit happens. So instead of cryin about it...find a way to port your Droid back to 2.1 or get a house phone. Simple as that.

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 10:08

36. belve14 (Posts: 113; Member since: 31 Mar 2009)


Well said Cricketownz people just dont read before they write and assume the most absurd things...people like fishpower must feel like a hater cause I was making a general statement thats all

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 10:58

11. SGVdude888 (unregistered)


I've had the Droid 2 since Thursday, and I've compared reception dB readings side by side with the Droid 1 and they're identical. I've experienced no dropped calls or data dropouts. So far I've been very pleased. I almost wonder if some of these reviews are written by bored iPhone fanboys who want to stir up controversy.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 11:11

12. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


AKA Phone Arena....HAHAHAHA!!!

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 11:36

14. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


What about battery life tho? That's my issue on mine, not signal strenght.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 17:45

25. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


many times battery life and signal are related. if your signal is low, your phone boosts power to the antenna (like when its in your pocket/purse) which in turn kills the battery. Of course, you could just be misusing the phone. Keep the screen brightness as low as you can stand, dont use the autobrightness, use a task killer to keep tons of unneeded programs running all the time, ect ect ect.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 11:47

15. networkdood (Posts: 5589; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


There, ok?? No more complaining about IPHONE, about network - about non-unl plans - man, people whine so much on this site and then when an ANDROID phone has probs....you here mostly crickets. My captivate came with a few probs, even when changing to i9000 euro rom - no FM RADIO use....but, I went online and modded my phone's update.zip file - GPS is better, with a fix promised in sept, my I/O lag is virtually gone and my quadrant score is 1600 - which is better than any other droid's average. And, last night, for the first time ever, I had 4-5 bars of service at home....yeah!!! maybe AT&T is finally upgrading to 850Mhz?

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 12:37

19. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Still a little sensitive about your iPhone? The difference in this whole thing is in the handling. No one from Motorola would ever tell customers to hold their phones different. Nor would they try and make people buy a case to resolve the issue they created. Sure, Apples give them out free now, but for a limited time only. They deserved the negative publicity it got, lets just hope they learned from it.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 15:06

23. Sniggly (Posts: 6496; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


So if you love the Iphone so much...why in the hell are you using a Captivate? And a defect on some phones (which PA didn't experience themselves) is DIFFERENT from a FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN FLAW which can't be fixed WITHOUT ALTERING THE DESIGN OF THE PHONE.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 17:49

27. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the euro rom is gonna brick your phone... good luck with that. the FM reciever (and transmitter!!!) will be figured out soon enough, no worries :) and using a stock rom i get 2250 Quadrant scores with the lag fix. :) Took out the bloatware i dont use and, bing!

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 12:44

20. FlyGuy (unregistered)


I'm definitely seeing both of the issues, especially the battery life. Hoping a fw update will come soon and fix it.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 14:22

22. 2tru (unregistered)


Got the Droid 2 the day it was released. I like the phone a lot -- but the battery life is the worst I have ever experienced. I have owned and used multiple models of various phone including multiple Blackberry phones (just upgraded to the Droid 2 from the Tour). But even when using the other phones heavily, I only had to recharge at night, and sometimes once every 2 days. After fulling charging the new Droid 2 overnight the first night I got it, the phone lasted less than 5 hours with light to moderate use. I removed every pre-installed widget except time and date, and turned off Wii Fi and GPS, I minimized the screen brightness, and the battery still drains within hours. I've been a Verizon wireless customer for many years -- and reception is always good and the signal is strong. This is really disappointing. I wanted to really like this phone -- and I like the features. But I'm going to have to return it unless I hear that there's a software or firmware fix available right away.

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 16:51

24. joey18 (Posts: 493; Member since: 20 Jul 2010)


droid x rocks droid 2 sucks

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 17:48

26. cc16177 (Posts: 312; Member since: 09 May 2010)


While completely ridiculous that is the most coherent comment I have seen from you. Bravo

posted on 16 Aug 2010, 22:46

34. starwarsfan (unregistered)


funny how people "expect" the battery life on a phone with a huge screen to last asmuch as the old razors. Please, use the phone for calls only if you want it to last. Some call me amd said the 3G signal was fluctuating since it would turn dark. Turns out the indicator will always turn dark when after a data session goes dormant. This guys was about to have a heart attack when he called. I got a palm pre and that stupid thing doesn't give you 2 hrs w/o needing to be charged. No complains since I used the free mobile hotspot between 2 netbooks all the time.

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 10:14

37. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


you're funny.

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 05:45

35. nario (unregistered)


Yup here in Ohio and the battery really sucks and call quality is below Par. My old HTC works alot better than this phone..I can only get a half a day of normal use out of this phone and that's not using video .....

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 10:16

38. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


Update: Battery life has improved a lot with use, maybe the battery needed to be worn in. Anyways I'm still very vigilant but for the most part it seems like it's more of a internal settings tweaking than anything else. I did deactivated background data use for aps that don't really need it. Either way, I hope a patch or statement is realeased to dispell any rumors.

posted on 17 Aug 2010, 16:08

41. HawkeyePierce (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Aug 2010)


Got 1 the first day - signal (voice & data) problems when I got home. Extremely short battery life (probably to poor signal reception) 6 hours with 0 use. Very heavy (anything that heavy should have 230 gr hollow points in it). Placed a review (no bad language) on VZW website, they haven't posted. I believe that they monitor what is posted and/or they edit customer reviews or post their own reviews for their benefit. I once believed their reviews, now I don't trust them. They have some reviews dated several days before the phone was available for pre-order on their website or available in their stores, how does that happen? RETURNING - paying the $35 (lesson fee) restock fee. Will wait for any new phones to be available for a time before I acquire one.c

posted on 18 Aug 2010, 03:16

42. roguedog (unregistered)


I stumbled on this page by accident last night by performing a google on "iPhone signal". Needles to say I was surprised to see that just as Apple predicted, all '' smart phones suffer some form of signal degradation when coming into contact with a human body. I performed this search in an effort to ascertain if any iPhone users were returning their phones, since no one I know even considered it, or even experienced the problem reported.... myself included. You know I had always heard that Apple users were more informed than the average user, but I always dismissed it as more fanboy hype. But I gotta tell ya. After reading several pages of the tripe posted here I'm convinced that what I thought was hype is actually true. These comments read like uniformed adolescent rhetoric scrawled on the bathroom wall. Geesh! Wow! Enjoy your ignorance... I've learned to appreciate my walled garden all over again. Thanx folks.

posted on 18 Aug 2010, 08:06

43. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


For someone that just happened to stop by, you've got quite the mouthful of bs.

posted on 18 Aug 2010, 09:52

44. rugrat (unregistered)


I agree, what a DB.

posted on 18 Aug 2010, 22:47

45. Dreampink21 (unregistered)


I have the same issue. I recieved the phone on monday and activated it but didnt make a call until tuesday and today. The reception sounds horrible. Lots of background noise and the call goes in and out. Even when you watch the status bar the signal goes from 1 bar to 4 bars and then no bars, and thats when you're sitting still. This could also be why the battery is draining so fast. I had to remove the facebook account in order to save the battery life. The battery has gone from 100% to 80% in 4hrs and thats just from sitting on the counter but thats definitely an improvement. Idk wats up but I really want it fixed. Whats the point of having features you can't use...

posted on 19 Aug 2010, 01:47

46. people are dumb (unregistered)


I have a droid 2 and have an incredible.. just like the keyboard sometimes... no signal issues and standard battery life for all line of android...

posted on 19 Aug 2010, 11:48

47. JohnRV501 (Posts: 1; Member since: 19 Aug 2010)


Since I know I am an excessive texter, talker and viewer, I always purchase an extended talk battery if it is offered by the mfg. As was the case with my Droid 2. My original curiosity when I stumbled upon this forum was if it was necessary to 'condition' the lithium battery(which I was doing anyhow). I never even upacked my original battery and door, and installed the xbat. It came with an 80% charge according to Droid2's indicator. So it didn't take long to bring it to full. I started messing with the phone around 4pm, and at midnite I gave it a rest. I got up yesterday morning about 5am and watched a few Youtube vids and about an hour later the warning came on that the bat had 5% life left. I ran it til it shut off, plugged it in and went out and did my running around. I got in about 4pm and went to messing with it again, even reset it to default since I had nothing to loose anyhow, and messed with it up til after 11 last nite. I got up this morning about 7 and have been recieving calls, texting, and checkin out Tube vids and still have at least 50% battery life left as of 11:45am, the time of this posting. I'm taking it with me today and see how well it works out in the field. I don't regret one bit spending the extra bucks for the xbat, and as of yet I really am enjoying this new gadget!! SOOO much more than that TouchPro.

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 08:14

52. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


Conditioning my battery and finetuning all the power-related settings have gone a long ways for my Droid 2. Thanks for sharing!

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 13:35

54. Dreampink21 (unregistered)


Same here! I've gone from having the battery only last for 5hrs to having it last for 24hrs.. happy dance*.. I let the phone die and charged it from 0%. I also removed the news widgets and now I just use the icon. I also removed the fb account from the phone as it had sync'd all my fb friends to the phone which is totally unnecessary. So far so good.

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 14:27

55. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


I've tried to un'sync FB unsuccesfully since this morning, i don't know why.

posted on 19 Aug 2010, 19:14

49. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


So based on the comments it looks like it's ok for a phone to have issues as long as it's not the iPhone

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 08:14

53. rjt185 (Posts: 257; Member since: 11 Jun 2009)


What on earth are you talking about?

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 15:09

56. zuno gyakusatsu (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)


thats because its normal for a motorola phone to work like shit.

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 03:52

50. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Based on comments I see people having issues with a phone (which happens on just about any phone when it first launches) but what I DON'T see is a comment from Motorola telling anyone to hold it different. Again, that is the big difference.

posted on 20 Aug 2010, 06:39

51. doubleD (unregistered)


Got the Droid 2 the day it came out. Haven't had any receptions issues, works just as good as previous phone (Dare). Happy with battery performance. Yesterday sent about 50 txts, spent about 4 hours on web/marketplace, still had 40% battery left at night.

posted on 21 Nov 2010, 15:59

57. silverfang77 (Posts: 5; Member since: 21 Nov 2010)


Mine does exactly what is being described, even in areas with four bars. I can be happily surfing the Web one second, the next, nothing will load, even with the 3G indicator still on the display and the four bars. I then have to shut it off and turn it back on.

I really hope this is a firmware problem. I like this phone a lot, but refuse to deal with problems.

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