Motorola CEO defends Moto X specs, touts "high-end performance"
0. phoneArena 05 Aug 2013, 20:07 posted on
There has been a lot of chatter from the geek crowd about the Moto X spec sheet. Many think that the device is somehow lacking because (to boil down the argument) "the numbers aren't big enough". People see the numbers that go with the CPU and display, and decide that because those numbers aren't as high as other phones, the Moto X couldn't possibly be as good. We've already defended the Moto X, and now the Motorola CEO Dennis Woodside is doing the same...
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66. Zero0 (Posts: 591; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Quad core is not that important. A dual core CPU should suffice for everyday phone use, especially when minor tasks have dedicated cores. GPU is very important to keeping things smooth and playing games, but the X has a very good GPU backing it.
And when 4.3 drops for this (before HTC One and Galaxy S4, I'd imagine), it'll only get faster. Seriously, the 4.3 update was like Project Butter all over again for the old Nexus 7.
77. iushnt (Posts: 808; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
but if quad core option is there then why dual core
84. gazmatic (Posts: 628; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
after b88ching so much about iphone and lumia not having quad core and 1080p to then release a device without quad core and 1080p and try to sell it at the price of a htc one or gs4...
na... i say if android fans dont bitch about moto x then they should shut up about lumia and iphone
99. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well, people don't bitch quite as much about specs anymore on competing platforms, so I've noticed. At least the smart ones don't. I certainly don't anymore, and I now recognize bleating about specs is basically a d**k measuring contest between people who look for shortcuts to declare their phones as better than others.
48. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Phones like the HTC One and S4 made this phone mid range. Do we really need to say more? I can get a S4 for $100 at Samsclub today.
51. Blazers (Posts: 257; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
I think what the real issue here isn't the specs. It's about the price. If this phone had been priced accordingly, this whole argument would be moot. But the fact is Motorola priced it at a premium, and THAT is what has got everyone's feathers ruffled.
54. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Exactly! That's why the Droid mini is a better deal at $100 vs this phone. Higher dpi, smaller body with the same internals. The issue is that the Droid mini is only on Verizon.
56. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
And also, unbalance thickness of phone is not in my taste.
57. zachattack (Posts: 598; Member since: 31 Jul 2013)
Their Moto X is going to bomb just like the three new droids being out on Verizon. Ill take my blue HTC One / LG g2 thanks
58. jove39 (Posts: 1362; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Mr. CEO...one question...why is it not priced for average consumer?
61. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Because the average consumer is still willing to spend 200 dollars on a brand new, very nice phone with new features that cost billions in R&D.
59. Planterz (Posts: 1269; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
The problem with the Moto X and Motorola's marketing is that it won't translate into people buying this phone.
While it's true that the phone has snappy performance with its unique combination of processors and its "good enough" 720p screen, most people aren't going to see that when they're standing in a store looking at the small cards showing overviews of specs.
They'll look at the Moto X and see a dual core while the S4 has a quad core. 1.7GHz vs 1.9GHz. 10MP camera vs 13MP. 720p vs 1080p screen. 2200mAh battery vs 2600mAh. No micro SD slot while the S4 does. Then finally they'll look at $200 vs $200.
Right or wrong, it's all about the numbers for consumers, and they want bigger numbers, except when it comes to price tag. Most people aren't looking at benchmarks (which can be misleading themselves), heck most don't research reviews. The S4 has fancier specs, and if it's not more expensive, they'll go with the S4 (or HTC One or Xperia Z or Nexus 4).
About the only thing the Moto X has going for it in the numbers department is its compact dimensions - not everybody wants a huge phone. And customization of its appearance doesn't matter when you put it in a case.
60. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
"Woodside kept with the company line that the thinking behind the Moto X was to invest in improvements that users would actually notice"
yeah, like battery life.
63. xpr3ss10n (Posts: 55; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)
Damnit when am i going to get use this hawk vision
68. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Too many sorry folk in here, too much spec talk and little about actual real world performance and reliability. We need to sort out the fact that Geeks are not equal to being smart, just someone who spend a little too much time in any one area. The phone is made to create a smooth experience and not join in the usual pissing contest that Android OEMs seemed to be locked in with one another.
Everyone doing the same thing every iteration of phone and people complain, and then someone does differenty and they still complain. We have a phone with excellent specifications and aiming to do something other that make this bigger...we have ingenuity being given the whirl...cue the idiots oh no 1080p screen...why no 440+ppi?!? Then comes the complainers about price, seriously?!? Why should it be cheaper, because the geeks on this site thinks so? How many of those geeks are raking in millions for their expert advice?!?
What is funny is the majority of Android phones toss out big numbers, super high resolution screens and multi core processors and all run about the same amount of time on battery or less, rarely do they perform better in actual usage. Here we have a phone with a rather average sized battery by todays standards and hopefuly with their ingenuity it can pull some great usage using thier different approach to processor cores. It's hilarious that we want all this power in Android phones when the fact of the matter is we have little need of all that, all these phones running the same OS and not all perform the same which is incredibly ridiculous, perhaps these guys should spend more time with ingenuity instead of throwing a bigger engine in it approach and just get things to work smoothly and consistently.
76. Tbonedog159 (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Finally someone on this site that is practical. You put it better than I could have. Of course I and everyone else would like a lower price tag, but this is a high end device and carries a high end price tag. It may not look high end on paper, but is everyone so stupid to where they automatically think it'll be slow because only has two cores? It's all about optimization and how the phone uses those cores. And in case everyone didn't know there are actually 8 cores in the Moto X. Just two of them are for CPU then the rest are for other processes. I am so glad to see that a phone is finally focused on user experience rather than just specs. What good are specs anyways? You could stare at them forever to make yourself happy, but in the end it always comes down to user experience and how the phone feels to the user.
69. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 425; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)
Dear Google and Motorola all u had to do is have quick updates to this phone ...it would have value I agree about the 720 screen but all I ask for is quick updates like the nexus devices...understand this phone will not sell good you had the buzz at the beginning but now u lost it...you think the mass people are idiots to buy a phone that lost buzz. Good luck
71. kanagadeepan (Posts: 737; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
I will agree him, if at the least that 1cm thick phone came with that 3500mAh battery...
72. BillyBoy (Posts: 28; Member since: 01 Jul 2013)
"the device isn't aimed at spec nerds, it's aimed at the average consumer" OK But how about price, 'coz the price is for a top dog not for an average device
73. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
And if you weren't blinded by pure specs then you'd realize that this is a top dog device. By every metric you could measure this device in real world use, it holds up well, and in some cases better than other devices.
97. BillyBoy (Posts: 28; Member since: 01 Jul 2013)
Apple uses A6 branding and now Motorola X8. Just to hide low specs internals and make more money.
74. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
blind fanbvoys won't stop bragging about quad cores.
X8 soc is clearly showing how hardware should be optimized with this hungry hog called android.
There isn't even a slight glitch so why grumbling??
75. Tbonedog159 (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Reading these comments makes me want to kill myself.... Does no one realize that specs really don't mean ANYTHING?? All that matters is what happens when you turn on the phone and how well it works. I've used quad core phones that are slow and leggy and I've used dual core phones that work super smooth. All that matters is how the phone optimizes what it has. Jeez I feel like this comment section is literally filled with some of the most retarded people in the whole world.
78. shreyasmhatre (Posts: 6; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)
My only question! If this premium device with average chipset / processor costs $649, what will be part of the affordable/cheaper Moto X? - Single core processor! I have lost my interest in Moto X just because of high price.
79. JMartin22 (Posts: 1286; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
I'm not buying this pretty little story of user experience. They didn't place the highest end components in their device simply because it would have drove up their budget and that's something they couldn't afford, given their popularity and bleeding profitability wounds. This was more about profit than a "great" user experience.
85. gazmatic (Posts: 628; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
if android fans dont bitch about moto x then they should shut up about lumia and iphone
86. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
I still want a 5 inch display and those nifty dual front speakers. those look good
87. Professor (Posts: 193; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
The problem is not the phone specs (CPU not fast enough or display resolution not big enough) the problem is the price.
The Moto X has some interesting new software programs but the Samsung Galaxy 4, HTC One and HTC DROID DNA are currently being sold for the same $199 with contract. And the Galaxy 3 and LG G-pro are being sold for $99 with contract. And that's not counting the new high specs phones to be announced in a few days from HTC, LG and others.
The Moto X should have a $99 price with contract AND be be sold at Google play store unlocked starting at $350.
88. tucutucu (Posts: 48; Member since: 03 Aug 2013)
Conclusion from CEO's Motorola: We have been selling crappy devices until now at premium prices. But don't worry, we think we're giving you a premium experience now, so you should pay what we might have given in the last 3 years. :)
89. zachattack (Posts: 598; Member since: 31 Jul 2013)
Haha WALP... While I think this phone is mid tier quality, I also think it will make a decent phone. Have to respect how they partitioned that CPU. The design is great as well I think it looks really nice. That said, it's nothing new and won't compete with the best. However, it won't really have to. The only reason for opting out of a 1080p screen is battery life. I'm sure the battery will rock on this thing. 720p is 720p though.. It is pretty noticeable. This is just like the whole Xbox 1 argument. The company thought it was pretty futuristic to have you be online 24/7 and not be able to share games. Then people raged, Xbox changed their device.
All the new Motorola phones are the same? Each one has a 720p screen and old processor. The only reason they were hyped so much is because people thought they'd have 2013 specs lol. Jokes on you! Yet not everyone needs specs I guess? For me I always thought if I'm paying 200$ then I better be getting the est of the best. Screw saying "ok google now" I'm not paying 200$ for that crap
90. mrvid (Posts: 75; Member since: 02 Oct 2008)
Way to go Moto! Trying to sell year old technology! If I wanted year old stuff, I would buy an iPhone!
91. Andrewtst (Posts: 393; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
It is middle range but high end price, Moto just greedy too much to earn more.
No issue with such spec as it run good performance but the price tag is the reason.
93. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6803; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
that's right guys. quit BYTCHN bout the X phone it haven't even launch yet. I'm still planning on buying the 32GB model with customization. u see how fast the phone goes. if u don't like it then DON'T BUY IT. and quit talking bout it have NSA written all over it every phone spys on u from our dumb gov't
94. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Relax bro, it's just a phone.
What again. ..moto x, with x8 virtual core? Good luck moto x!