Motorola ATRIX HD revealed on Motorola's website with 4.5 inch screen
0. phoneArena 05 Jul 2012, 01:00 posted on
Looking like the Motorola DROID RAZR with its thin lines, Motorola's website showed off pictures of the Motorola ATRIX HD with a 4.5 inch ColorBoost display, backside made from Kevlar and water resistant innards...
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71. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i'm not overselling a device based on the Company's successful history, i'm just sure that the HD will uphold with the same kind of performance we've seen from similar handsets from Mototola and other similarly spec'd devices. that's certainly not too much to ask.
*sigh* again with the lack of info. the SIII is certainly a solid handset, i'm just saying the HD can tango too. the Razr outsold the Nexus and the Razr MAXX now outsells the iPhone on Verizon. that was their latest Flagship device so what were you saying?
76. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
"You're just sure" -- BASED ON WHAT. you can tell the future?
Similar performance. yes from the 2 out of how many handsets they released in the past years? and it really isnt two because the Razr and the Maxx, in essence, are the same phone.
Yes the Razr may have outsold the iPhone in Q1 but, the best phones aren't always the ones that sell the most. iPhone has proved that theory true for years now.
82. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
no, just from a consistent basis. haven't you ever heard the phrase innocent until proven guilty? there's no logical reason why those problems you mentioned would crop up. that's just your bias against Motorola taking it's hold on you.
why does that matter? Samsung releases lots of handsets but only a few are renowned as great devices. same point you're trying to make against Motorola just on a different magnitude.
oh and they're separate devices dude, each have different price tags. i'd have a MAXX right now if i just liked the color.
oh so suddenly sales are irrelevant huh? doesn't it indicate the popularity of the devices if they're selling well? i'm sure that didn't come to mind at all when you were talking about Samsung's greatness. xD see i don't mind Samsung, on the contrary, i think they've done great. i'm just saying Motorola definitely has a fighting chance. i don't see how you can say anything about that being that i had to correct you for every little piece of information about Motorola you brought up. you don't know anything.
87. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
"A consistent basis" when you say consisitent, you are referring to the OEM's hisotry of releasing good devices, otherwise, there is no other basis off which someone could reallly judge a phone. I don't see how innocent until proven guilty applies to phones, I guess what your saying is every phone should have a chance? Thats true. I'm giving the Atrix a chance, so I don't see how that applies to my conversation.
Did I ever say sales were irrevelant? I said "aren't always", So I don't know what you're saying there. People are always referring to the Galaxy Nexus as the best mid-range Verizon phone even when the Razr got ICS. And not just because of better specs most professionals just believe the experience is better on the Nexus, then there's Jellybean and all that I never said Motorola doesn't have a fighting chance, earlier, you threw at me Moto's history of making devices that
1) had good support for lapdock
2) were durable
3) sported good antennas
So I threw out Samsung's history, during which you suddenly went against the whole "history talk" and made it evident that they have had much of a greater impact on the modern world of smartphones. Please refer to "every little people of information" because you're speaking in generalities, instead of bringing up examples.
91. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, pretty much.
so what was that about "Atrix HD may be horribly optimized, with a lackluster camera and bad battery life."?
oh so you can pick and choose when it's relevant? that's convenient. i don't know where you've heard that but most people preferred the Razr hence the sales. most reviews i see for the Razr pretty much say that it's better than the Nexus but it's lack of ICS keeps it down. not anymore. your whole argument was based off the new Atrix not being able to stand up to the likes of other phones on AT&T.
...what are you talking about? you threw out Samsung's history as a way of stacking the company against Motorola for the sake of your "the Atrix can't be as good as the SIII" argument. how delusional are you right now? xD
68. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i'm not saying one is better than the other i'm saying that the Atrix HD has a lot to fight the big boys with essentially because it is a big boy but not marketed as one. oh so you're knocking my personal taste huh? may i remind you that the recently launched Galaxy Tab 2 only matched the Xyboard's specs which has been here since last year and it's implementation of 3.2 and soon ICS is similar to that of ICS for their phones so that's completely right about it.
51. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
coming from you that means nothing to me.
try me again when your points are more solid and you have all the information.
54. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Don't worry haha no one here will call you a king anytime soon.
58. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
actually they do. it's all in good fun though even though i do let it get to my head. xD
72. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
other posters here on this very site. look around some articles. like recent Moto articles for example.
55. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Ahh now I see why you so valiantly defend motorola, you've owned so many of their devices, most of which were low-shows or fails lmao. Xoom, Bionic, Devour, X2, Droid 2, Droid 3, Xyboard(ohh wait.. Xoom 2)... So many Moto brands are dying, not a suprise them must implement so many new names...
56. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3876; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I have to say, the Droid brand is getting old... But the devices branded Droid are good, especially the new ones. I think the only phone that should be called a Droid is the original Droid line. But they should keep up with the Xyboard, 1 Droid phone and 1 Droid tablet
61. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Hopefully Razr HD will breath new life into this dying robot. Motorola has been pulling an HTC for so long now.
77. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Razr HD will be the update they need but for it to "breathe new life" they would have had to been dead. the MAXX is outselling the iPhone at Verizon now.
65. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
And thank you Berzerk for not taking the childish, Fanboysh approach that Kurog-whatever, is taking.
78. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
if that's what i'm doing what have you been doing here with me? :P
80. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3876; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I wouldn't say King is childish here, he brings up some good arguements. And yes, he may be a bit of a Moto fanboy, but who can blame him? Motorola makes awesome devices, and apparently Moto has served him well in his past experiences with smartphones and tablets, so he trusts their devices. I might be more of an HTC fan, but I can still recognize a good phone; I might actually pick up the latest Moto phone if the next iteration of the One series doesn't impress me at MWC next year (I hope that's when they release it).
83. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
good man. i don't know why he has such a problem with me and Moto.
86. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3876; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, he's based most of his arguments on marketing, which is an important thing, but I think he forgets that phone sales are also based on reputation. And Moto has one of the greatest reputations in the mobile world, they made the first cell phone (though a margin of people don't know that), and all throughout the mobile industry, has had some of the most popular phones ever. Like a few years ago, when the original Razr flip phone came out. EVERYONE had one, because they were so awesome, and everyone love Moto. And when they brought out the Razr brand again last year, everyone had a nostalgia-gasm! And that's why they're selling so well, not only because it's a great smartphone, but because of reputation
75. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i still like the Droids from all of the OEMs. i like the darker marketing scheme. it's more badass. i actually don't like the Xyboard name, that's something they messed up with.
74. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the XOOM my dad got himself for a steal. he uses it for work and needs something with dependable wireless reception. the Bionic is a solid phone, better than most other Flagship devices at the time. Devour was my first Android phone, i was learning the ropes but i still liked it none the less. i just used the X2 to get the Bionic. in order to take advantage of a BOGO they let me upgrade a line REALLY early so i got it and the Droid 3. i used the X2 for a few weeks then took it back. that gave me the leverage to use that line to upgrade to the Bionic when it came out. the Droid 2 was a solid phone, one of the most powerful of it's time. i loved my Droid 3, i miss it to this day. the Xyboard i use for School, i don't like 10.1" tablets and this hit a sweet spot. it has everything that the recently launched Galaxy Tab 2 has.
79. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Oh ok so circumstance was the reason you purchased a series of less than impressive devices. Droid 2 got OK reviews.. nothing special and Droid 3 was a fail, through and through. The Galaxy tab 2 line sucks, even considered to be worst than the first, which, most considered to be the better than the xyboard. Finally samsung makes a bad device, eh?
81. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Droid 2 was just a smaller Droid X. i liked having a keyboard so it was ideal for me. the Droid 3 being a fail is your opinion. it has one of the most fantastic keyboards to ever be graced on a phone and it was the most powerful phone in the states until the SII came stateside. it doesn't suck. they feel better in the hand than the originals and they're powered by OMAP4s which are no slouches powerwise. the only reason why they and the Xyboards were considered bad is because the Transformer Prime set a new standard for critics. my sister got one before i got my Xyboard, it's wireless reception was horrible. we have a big house and even our Cisco E3000 Router which is 802.11n doesn't cover every place in the house. my Xyboard gets a signal in places where her Prime drops out completely. that reliability and compact size is what i was looking for and it's not weak at all, not by a long shot.
10. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
If i am not wrong this phone rocks a snapdragon s4 .
And I have a feeling that next nexus will have snapdragon s4
12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3876; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, there might be about 4 Nexus' next time around. Most, if not all, will most likely have the S4, but the Moto Nexus might have the OMAP5 chip in it. The Samsung Nexus might have the Exynos 5; I don't know the status of production on the S4 Pro, but if it can be used in phones about the time of the release of the Nexus' the HTC and LG (or Sony) Nexus' will probably have that.
13. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
First gen moto dual core device packs tegra 2 .
But they suddenly change to Omap
Because they know that the next version of android will be better optimised for Omap .
So current motorola devices suddenly switching to snapdragon
You know what's going on with the next nexus
14. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3876; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I think Moto only used the S4 because it was the best option for releasing a flagship in a timely matter, considering the OMAP 5 won't go into devices until late 2012 or early 2013. The OMAP5 release kind of fits together with the Nexus release time-frame, the last 2 Nexus have released in November and December. I'm making speculation based on rumors and release dates, and so far the rumors say there will be 4 Nexus this year made by HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and LG (maybe Sony). They will most likely be released around November. I haven't seen any news that dispells that rumor, but if I am wrong please correct me
35. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Motorola has used OMAP since Android became popular. the original Droid had a 800MHz OMAP3. what Motorola will do is use the best SoC that's available to them until the next gen OMAP comes out.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Goddammit, they went the Atrix 2 route with the internal storage. The battery I don't mind so much; I don't know how AT&T figured it out, but LTE isn't the battery drain for their phones that it is for Verizon. The only other thing I don't dig about it is the bezel; there's way too much wasted real estate on the top and bottom. Other than that it looks like a great successor to the Atrix line. If they price it right (I'd aim for 100 bucks off the bat) it'll sell well.
36. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
what on earth makes you think that LTE is less power draining on AT&T devices than Verizon devices? if that were the case it would be because the AT&T devices can't hold on to an LTE signal.
42. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
45. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's an interesting article but if there is increased battery usage it's not apparent, LTE is generally a power sucking technology, same goes for AT&T devices using the technology.
if you look at reviews for the Spectrum and the Nitro HD which share the same specs and battery you'll find that they're very similar in terms of battery life.
if there is a difference it's really too paltry to feel that you have to point out and then of course there's my point in tandem.
17. kanagadeepan (Posts: 634; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
I got Razr MAXX (International) yesterday... I don't miss the HD screen on this phone as it comes with small ;p battery (in MAXX standards)...
But if MOTO releases MAXX version of this phone after 2 months, then surely people will get mad at Moto...
20. michael95gt (Posts: 37; Member since: 19 Jul 2009)
It's the same thickness as the the Razr MAXX so Moto upgrading the battery later wouldn't be a surprise, or else they would have made it as thin as the regular Razr.
21. fervid (Posts: 173; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Nothing about this phone screams Atrix. Might as well have called it Razr HD. Same battery as Razr which is actually smaller than Atrix 2 that needed the Extended Battery to last well. I shall wait for the Atrix Maxx HD they will release 31 days later.
22. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Nice phone, I think the Maxx battery is Motorolas exclusive battery for the Droid Razr only for the time being. Might be only found on a Droid on Verizon's network, remember Droid line is supposed to be special, so I doubt Motorola will put that battery in any other US carrier phone for a while.
Loving that massive screen though, is that ips or rgb screen? If its the same as the SGS 3 then that is all good, that is on sharp screen. This phone is the definite replacement of the Xtreme. This looks like a solid device, but what are the detailed specs on it?
39. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 May 2012)
All I can say is how does moto expect to WOW us with a LOWER battery?? I mean the 8mp cam we can live with cause even the galaxy S3 has that, but come on!! Think about it, the original atrix had a 1900 mAh battery, the atrix 2 had a 1785 mAh battery, now they make this So-called Atrix 3 with a 1780 battery????? Is moto's goal to decrease each phone they make? wow all i can say is, this HAS to be just "ATRIX HD" and not the "Atrix 3"!!! sad sad sad :(
43. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Well remember, the original Atrix used a lesser capable processor than these new-gen phones, one less capable of dividing up tasks, which extends battery life. So naturally they needed a bigger battery.