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Moto X running on AT&T undergoes CPU test, Moto Magic voice command on video, confirms some specs

0. phoneArena 14 Jul 2013, 14:16 posted on

The Moto X is certainly making the rounds lately, not bad for a device that is still awaiting some official...

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posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:23 4

1. imkyle (Posts: 948; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


How is this better than the Nexus 4 with the exception of LTE on board...?

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:29 4

2. Shatter (Posts: 1766; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Most of the specs are worse than the nexus 4 anyway. Hopefully Motorala has a flagship version of this phone.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:40 1

13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


This wasn't intended to be Motorola's flagship. The Droid Ultra is their flagship.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 19:15

25. Kjayhawk (Posts: 273; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)


Yeah its using the Droid Razrs CPU, the Snapdragon Plus which is behind the Nexus 4 which uses the Snapdragon Pro... Hopefully this phone will be an extremely cheap off contract phone, if the nexus 4 cost 299 off contract, then maybe this phone will be be less.... The GPU is an upgrade and it is clocked at a higher speed that the razr looks like we will have to wait and see.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 19:29

26. Kjayhawk (Posts: 273; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)


Edit: Alright Now I'm confused, same benchmark as s600? but showing up as a year old Processor... Can someone explain please, is it the GPU or it being overclocked that causes this high of a benchmark??

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 23:17 1

30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Could be that the software is recognizing it as the MSM8960T but in reality it is a Snapdragon 600. Maybe something Motorola put in the software to keep the actual internals from being leaked out.

By the way, the MSM8960T is in the Pro category of the Snapdragon S4 family, not the Plus. It's the same exact thing as the chip used in the Nexus 4, just minus 2 cores.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:51 6

5. Maxwell.R (Posts: 131; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


For a while, people have been wondering about Moto building the next Nexus device. That does not appear to be in the cards. With the Moto X, there was thought that it would be a new flagship to take on Samsung and the gang. Motorola looks to be hitting this device squarely at the fickle consumer, "You mean I can order my own custom back plate with an engraving? Sold."

As for how it performs, specs only say so much. The SGS4 has monster specs and sometimes that thing chokes on just the most basic stuff. Windows Phone is a superb performer with dual-core 1.5GHz silicon and even less.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:14 4

6. imkyle (Posts: 948; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


I think the S4 "chokes on basic stuff" because of Samsung's UI. Not saying Sammy's UI is bad, but with the specs that beast has, there should be little to no lag.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:18 4

8. Birds (Posts: 927; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


No... There should be no lag.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:44

14. kozza3 (Posts: 573; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


doesn't matter, specs on a phone are old news

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:15 1

7. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Well said Maxwell I completely agree and I hope these specs mark the start of googles attempt too lower spec requirements for each android device!

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:29

11. Commentator (Posts: 2188; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Is a custom back plate with engraving really on the top of the list for a customer-base who (I'm told by both commenters and PhoneArena editors alike) typically cover them up with cases? Nothing I've seen suggests that the Moto X is a particularly rugged device that can operate sans case.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:51 1

15. Maxwell.R (Posts: 131; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


That's the thing, we don't really know. Engraving used to be the rage with old iPods back in the day. We just have to wait and see what they have in store for us at the assembly plant in Texas.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 16:23

16. MartyK (Posts: 669; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Max--
All phone lags, don't just make it sounds like SGS4 is the only one

http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/218928-do-you-notice-animation-lag-your-phone.html

or

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1456339

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 16:43 3

19. Maxwell.R (Posts: 131; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


Amazing! A poll in which 13 people voted note lag with a Lumia 920 and another forum post from 2012 about iOS 6. I'll be the first to note that no platform is perfect, but TouchWhiz is a known stuttering commidity and with the horsepower running under that hood, it's down to the details for Samsung.

In Samsung's defense, the newest update that has been getting pushed to the SGS4 has improved things dramatically.

It's not bashing a platform or a product when citing legitimate and generally accepted "flaws" per se. WP is a smooth operator with few apps and UX gaps. iOS is a smooth operator that generally works well but has gray hair for a UX. Android works great in stock trim but requires a lot of horsepower for OEMs to create a unique experience and the UX suffers as a result. It is what it is.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 17:56

22. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5670; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


How the hell n who the hell are these people get too test these phones out??

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:40 3

12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I don't know really. We're seeing mixed results in terms of SoC. The CPU identifier in the first video says that the phone has a dual core S4 Pro, but it evaluates it just as powerful as a Snapdragon 600.

Also, when GPU tests came up for the Moto X, once again it said it had the dual core S4 Pro with Adreno 320, but the tests showed it out-performed other devices with the same GPU and same resolution display (Optimus G and Nexus 4) by about 50%. That means it's at a higher clock speed, similar to that of the Snapdragon 600.

Is it possible that the software is recognizing the CPU as the MSM8960T, but really it's the APQ8064T (Snapdragon 600)? Because I don't think software enhancements alone can boost benchmarks that much.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:33 2

3. reten (Posts: 43; Member since: 03 Apr 2013)


We techsavvy , we only want high-end phone to be manufactured,
We need the fastest processor, ram, gpu and so on,no we don't care about real life performance .

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:46

4. evarod48 (Posts: 130; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


phone on paper

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:24 2

10. VZWuser76 (Posts: 992; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


While specs can be important, they're not the be all/ end all. Making the OS run lighter makes more sense in that it doesn't require high end specs to run fluidly, which in turn may mean less power required from the battery.

Also, if this is a 4.3" screen like I've heard, you wouldn't want 1080p on that small of a screen. I had the Rezound, and with 720p on a 4.3" screen, it was kinda hard to read. Having 1080p on that size screen would only be worse.

I used to only go by specs and try and get the best available, but I still have never had a lag free phone. Sure it's rare that it happens, but it's still there. The biggest reasons I think lag still exists is manufacturer skins and technology advances. Every year the skins seem to get more bloated. And with each new advancement (faster mulitcore cpus and higher resolution screens) the engineers & devs make use of them, running them to their limits and using up resources and battery. If they want to have a tech race, how about switching over to battery advancement. It doesn't matter how fast the processor is or how sharp the picture is if the battery's dead.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 15:23 3

9. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


According to the benchmark he ran in the video, that dual core S4 Pro is just as powerful as a quad core Snapdragon 600. What's going on?

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 16:40 4

18. TheLolGuy (Posts: 469; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


It's probably a dual-core version of the Snapdragon 600. Like for example, the Sony Xperia SP has the dual-core version of the S4 pro, but because of the two less cores, it can allow a higher maximum clock of 1.9 GHz, although Sony chose 1.7 GHz probably because of heat.

Because of the 2 less cores it generates less heat, and lets face it. 99.9% of the Play apps don't even use 2 cores let alone 4. That requires the kind of genius to code parallel to 4 cores is something only huge tech companies have. Allowing a higher clock on fewer cores will boost single core performance while keeping heat in check. To me, it's all the right moves. There is no point in having 4 cores for maximum potential performance when nothing will ever use it. Ever.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 18:12 2

23. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Sounds reasonable, and a very smart move on Motorola's part

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 16:35

17. Techboi (Posts: 80; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


That must be a dual core snapdragon 800 man ol... This will be my next phone.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 17:11

20. k1ng617 (Posts: 234; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


I'm all for thinking outside of the box, but voice commands are only helpful less than 5% of the time and can actually ruin the experience when it gets things completely wrong. Moto will need to think a little more creatively if they really want my money back.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 17:54

21. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5670; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


I'm SO PYSCH BOUT THE MOTO X!! Isn't the GPU on the X Phone same as the SONY XPERIA Z??

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 18:13 1

24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Yeah, same on the Xperia Z, HTC One, and Galaxy S4 (I9505). Though it's probably at a slightly lower clock speed, it's still a beast.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 20:08 2

27. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


And that's why this phone is at the top of my list. Instead of chasing after the highest of the high spec'd processors, Moto concentrated on the area people notice: the GPU. The Adreno 320 is the same as what's running all the S4 Pro and S600 quad-core SoCs. And I'm willing to bet it's that 320 that makes the Droid DNA and One fly. So do we really need a quad core, or just a really powerful GPU?

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 23:21 1

31. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


We need a powerful GPU and a decent CPU. Dual core Krait handles everything just fine, you just need a nice GPU like the Adreno 320 to keep things smooth.

This is what a lot of people (like myself) have been saying, power becomes a null statement after a certain threshold of performance has been reached. Processors and GPUs have just become so powerful that they handle everything we throw at them, the only thing they are useful for is benchmarks. Real world performance is negligible between all these top of the line SoCs.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 22:00

28. Bioload25 (Posts: 158; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


I think google lost a lot of space in market after the GS4 and htc one release earlier,people already have the best options of smartphones to buy, and I dont see reasons to buy a google smart instead the current flagships in the market,all good techs are already inside them...

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 22:29

29. Fuego84 (Posts: 250; Member since: 13 May 2012)


Will android specs for smartphones ever top off? And if and when it finally does would all apps be compatible?

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 07:31

32. rcwfox2002 (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


I hope this is not the phone it's ugly and plain. Was hoping for a build factor like HTC one :/

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