More than 1 out of 3 Apple iPhone owners think they have a 4G phone
40% of current Apple iPhone owners would buy the next model, even if it didn't offer 4G connectivity
Despite what the carriers would have you think, many are reluctant to switch to 4G service. While 30% believe that 4G plans are too expensive, 22% think that the additional speed is not worth additional money. 19% are not informed enough to know. Part of the problem stems from the changed definition of what is considered 4G service. Last year, the definition of what constitutes 4G service was changed, which allowed AT&T and T-Mobile to call their HSPA+ service 4G after T-Mobile started the trend in its commercials. Most communications experts say that of the four top Stateside carriers, Verizon's LTE is the closest to being a true 4G network.
source: Retrevo via electronista
21. bigdawg23 (Posts: 268; Member since: 25 May 2011)
Any iPhone users I know don't believe that including myself. I still go back to 3G wouldnt have ever been used until AT&T put it on the iPhone 3G, up until then VZW never listed a 3G phone as such.
Marketing is to blame for this. I do know my iPhone 4 surpasses VZW LTE speeds here in Minnesota and it is only HSPA, not even HSPA+.
For the record I still don't call HSPA+ as 4G and never will.
34. ArmageddonX (Posts: 96; Member since: 11 May 2011)
I'm an Android user but I don't have any 4G where I live. So it's not a big deal to me either way I guess... but I agree with what you're saying.
42. hepresearch (unregistered)
Happy to see an iPhone owner and an Android owner having a level-headed, civil conversation on a controversial post... and finding common ground... +1 to both of you!
I agree on the 4G thing entirely... HSPA+ will never be 4G in my book, and until either LTE or WiMAX covers even a third of what existing GSM/CDMA networks in the US cover already, it will not matter to me at all. It simply is not yet relevant except in the urban/suburban markets, it would seem.
44. Tom (unregistered)
Thsi is not true, I live in Minnesota also and Verizon LTE blow AT&T's so-called "4G" out of the water. I have tested both and its not even close. You must live in the outskirts of the Twin Cities.
I am a cell phone salesman and I couldn't even tell you how many times i have heard "Do you guys carry the Iphone 4G" it is very irritating.
49. hepresearch (unregistered)
If I had a nickel for every time I heard someone say that LTE is so much faster... I would be a wealthy man right now. Then again, if I had a nickel for every time I heard an iPhone user say that their 3G-enabled iPhone outperformed either the HTC Evo 4G or the HTC Thunderbolt on download speed, I would be just as rich...
Maybe that's why I can't get anybody to give me a nickel for listening to their opinion...
66. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Dude you are such a liar. 3G is NEVER faster than 4G EVER. My Mother’s Verizon iPhone 4 is as fast as a worm on hot pavement. My 4G HTC Evo 3D can open 2 sites at the same time before the iPhone 4 opens one site. I opened both PhoneArena.com & IGN.com at the same time before the iPhone 4 could even finish PhoneArena.com. You are such a fool for that comment. You are the poster boy for an iSheep. That is by far the most delusional comment ever in PhoneArena.com. Also my HTC Evo 3D opened PhoneArena.com on a 4G signal before the over a year old iPhone 4 on Wi-Fi bro. Every time I go to my Mother's I think of something else to do on her iPhone 4. Trust me I am not lying. You iSheep always give me ammunition against the iPhone 4. Dude pass that stuff to the left please, you are hogging it! lol This guy is officially CRAZY! lol
106. hepresearch (unregistered)
"Dude you are such a liar."
Could you please identify one lie that I said in comment #49?
"You are such a fool for that comment."
For saying what? I said nothing about the actual speed of any device, and in fact all I did was to briefly recount the vast array of highly polarized opinions I have heard before from both sides of this issue (and then lament the fact that I don't get paid enough to listen to biased commentary).
"You are a poster boy for an iSheep."
Have you ever read anything else I've ever said? I am by no means an "iSheep". Look at my phone list... I have never owned an iPhone, and do not want an iPhone.
"That is by far the most delusional comment ever in PhoneArena.com."
Whew, you are really on a roll today... just the same, I appreciate the criticism. But seriously, what did I say that was seriously so delusional?
"Dude pass that stuff to the left please, you are hogging it!"
Which one? The huka, or the crack-pipe? LOL!!!
"This guy is officially CRAZY!"
Hehe.. he... sure, thanks. Have a great night.
100. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I love the iphone but droids arw faster. Then again who cares its no by much i raved the thubderbot v iphone one on 4g other 3g the thunderbolt won but not by much. Maybe about 2 or 3 secomda
51. N.Reynolds (Posts: 232; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)
Your dumb, I live in Apple Valley Minnesota and have a HTC Thunderbolt and its probably 10x faster than any iPhone data speeds ive seen. Yes the 10x is a little exaggerated but its by far faster and thats becase it has 4g LTE. iPhone or any other phone the LTE is by far faster than any 3g device along with HSPA.
102. vzw rep (unregistered)
I live in the twin cities as well and have an LG Revolution..I also happen to be a Verizon rep....I get on average 12-18 mbps...that would take a dump on any iPhone...and if i had a dollar for everytime I had someone complain because there iPhone4 doesn't get 4G service, I'd never have to work another day in my life...hey retards the iPhone4 isn't 4G....and I'd be impressed if Apple actually made the next version of the iPhone 4G...wake up Steve Jobs your missing out.
78. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
your iphone4 surpasses a VZW LTE phone in a speed test.
obviously ur not in a VZW LTE area. period. Having a "4g" phone doesnt mean that u have 4g all the time, u still have to be under 4g coverage. oi.
and 3g can be faster than 4g. i average around 5mbs on my 3g vibrant. thats as high or higher than most sprint users get on their 4g phones.
85. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Again in some areas like you said. Your Vibrant won't be faster than even my old HTC Evo 4G. Where I live there is a VERY strong 4G WiMAX service. I average between 8 to 12 Mbps. That is INSANLY fast. My HTC Evo 3D is a VERY quick phone on 4G. I am completely satisfied.
114. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Your a lucky one then. Most Wimaxx areas are so saturated people dont see speeds above 4 or 5 at best. The national tests all show that with the slowest of the "4g" tests.. other than ATT's pathetic excuse of 4g.
125. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
It's might be the slowest but it's still faster than 3G by far. I have been in Philadelphia, New York City, Charlotte, Chicago, & the list goes on. Every town that did have WiMAX 4G was significantly better that 3G. I mean way better. You are not giving WiMAX the credit it deserves. I have never lost to a 3G phone ever while on 4G WiMAX. Those test I did on Speedtest.net were on my old HTC Evo 4G, not on my new dual-core 4G HTC Evo 3D. I travel a lot for my living & the colleagues I meet there have 3G phones but some do have Verizon LTE phones. I have been to so many places, who knows I may have been to your town. Whenever I land on a new place I turn on my WiMAX radio to see if there is 4G & then I run a Speedtest.net just to see what my WiMAX gets. I have done an average & from all the places I have been. WiMAX 4G gets me 6 to 10 Mbps on average nationwide. Where I live I average 8 to 12 Mbps. These are true numbers. In Dallas/Fort Worth area I got the slowest speeds ever on WiMAX. I average there 4 to 6 Mbps. The 6 was lucky, more like 5 Mbps. That is significantly lower than my national average, but still higher than 3G.
79. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)
HSPA will never surpass LTE speeds. If you dont have LTE service in your area then thats a different thing.
52. jroc74 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I dont have an iPhone, but when the iPhone 4 first came out I thought it was called the iPhone 4G, going by previous iPhone names. It was logical to me.
At the time I didnt know about LTE, 4G. But if ppl are thinking that the iPhone 4 is 4G now, they need to get educated. Maybe its the speeds iPhone users get on AT&T that makes them think its 4G...
2. theflu (unregistered)
That's because 90% of people who own an iPhone are VERY VERY VERY VERY misinformed.
I mean, they bought the phone in the first place because they think its the only one with apps and a front facing camera...
6. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
You mean just like 100% of android users, who actually have 4G phones, who believe that they actually receive 4G signals when they don't?
8. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the official definition was changed, so yea, i see 4g speeds on my tablet. just because YOU refuse to go by the revised definitions doesnt mean it isnt happening. Ive gotten speeds into the low-mid teens pretty regularly on my LG G-Slate 4G.
30. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Of course you always get 4g wherever you go. All fandroids do :)
43. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
pardon me if i live in a large flat city that gets great coverage. do you want some cheese or a small violin?
19. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Dude this is so funny YET very typical. I had to tell my Aunt's neighbor that her iPhone 4 is not 4G. She argued with me until I showed her my HTC Evo 3D last weekend. I told her to open her favorite website on her iPhone 4. This is so funny, lol she opened thekrazycouponlady.com It took forever. Then I opened the same website on my 4G phone. She was blown away by what she saw. She couldn't believe how fast my phone was compared to hers. She said what phone is this! Then I explained & showed her the 4G icon at the top of my phone. I told her that the 4 on her iPhone means it's just the 4th version of the iPhone. Her phone is only 3G. I told her that 3G is OLD tech that 4G is what will take over in the very near future. She said that she felt stupid for arguing with me. lol She also said she was going to tell all her friends about her findings. I did throw a little jab though. I told her that the glass on the iPhone 4 is really nice! lol
29. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Last week it was your Mom, now it's your aunt, lol.
39. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
My Mother already knows the iPhone 4 is 3G. I was at my little cousins 8 year old birthday party if you must know & my Aunt's neighbor was there. If I can help a lost iPhone 4 user see the light, I am for it. It was my good deed of the day! Are you insinuating that I am making this up? Really? Bad, bad 530gemini! I need to put you in time out like I do my 2 year old son! Why would I make up something like that? 530gemini you are a silly little man! lol Dude just go on thekrazycouponlady.com & see for yourself! I didn't know such a site even existed. It's a funny site. Women and their coupons! lol At least I talk about my family, you talk about how your gardener has an iPhone, like that is believable! lol
57. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Sure, sure, whatever you and your relatives say :)
81. URC (unregistered)
You argued too much. Should have just pointed to the "3G" on the status bar of her phone.
27. doubler86 (Posts: 293; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
Umm 530gemini, I have a Samsung Charge 4G, and the speed is twice the speed of my cable internet. This is why android users can always say that iphone users are misinformed. Thank you for further proving the statistic.
32. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
What? Just twice as fast as your cable internet? I thought fandroids get special android devices running 4x faster than cable internet. You better check :)
28. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
lol.. i have galaxy s4g and now mytouch 4g
i average 5mps dowloads everywhere here, FASTEST i seen an iphone go is 3mbps
33. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Ummmm, so you actually went around checking everyone's iphone to see how fast their download speeds are?
91. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
actually they all come up to me and try to say there phone is the best...
this is just one of the plenty ways i prove them wrong, by a speed test
50. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
Of course you tried to bring Android into this comment, even though he said nothing about it. Just couldn't accept the FACT that MOSt iPhone users are misinformed could you?
58. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Most iphone users? Since when did 34% become more than 76%? Oh yes, in fandroid math 34% is bigger than 76%. I get it now :)
98. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)
34 + 76= 100?
And where did you get those percentages from anyway?
108. ojdidit84 (unregistered)
115. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol.. apparently id take fandroid math over ibot math. at least we know 34 and 76 arent 100% lol.
thats how ibots keep thinking they are "winning" the cell game... they think that their >20% market share = 90% of all phone sales. I get it now!
12. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
maybe we got it because it is without a doubt the best phone out there! Best screen! Most and more important best apps! Go back to your weak droid and help Gates make more money. By the way, the iphone also holds it's valve the best.
18. nak1017 (Posts: 322; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
Didn't pee-wee herman get caught holding his valve in a porn theater?
20. Synack (Posts: 624; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I do believe you're the dumbest person I've ever heard.
1. iPhone isn't the best phone. SGS2 should hold that title.
2. iPhone has FAR from the best screen. Samsung holds that title with the Super AMOLED+ screens, with Gorilla glass.
3. All Androids are not Droids.
4. Bill Gates does not run Google, dumbass. He's ex CEO of Microsoft.
5. Value is spelled like the first word in this sentence, not valve which cars have in their engines.
37. ngo2dd (Posts: 731; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Number 1 and 2 is very subjective. I don't like the SGS2 it may have the "best" spec but the UI suck. The best phone or the better phone is up to the user.
Super Amoled have good viewing angle but it resolution is only 800 by 480. Reading is better on a SLCD qHD display and it have better battery life then the Super Amoled. The color are too saturated for my taste. If it is brighter then real then I don't care to much for it. But your right on the other part.
38. synack valve man (unregistered)
"iphone isn't the best phone, SGS2 should hold that title. " That is just your opinion. super amoled+ perhaps has the best contrast or color but that does not make it the best screen. That is just an opinion. When it comes to the best screen resolution, iphone 4 wins as of now, and that is a fact. Microsoft gets money every time an android phone is sold. Get your facts right before you decide you want to rip into someone.
92. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
yeah yeah i spelled value wrong. I type valve too much at work. And jackass, read the other stories gates is probably making money than google on android phones!
22. snowgator (Posts: 3015; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
It ain't no thing, Hawks62. 3G is still the bomb.
24. pandamaja (unregistered)
microsoft makes $5 on every htc android phone sold.
25. pandamaja (unregistered)
Your spelling and grammar are atrocious. 'Most and more important'?
26. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3394; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Dude leave hawk62 alone. He ran out of alcohol. He is about to start to drink some rubbing alcohol! lol This guy is the best! lol
48. tedkord (Posts: 3410; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And, 34% of them are 4G, apparently.
I know this is probably close to true. My coworker insists his Verizon iPhone4 is 4G. He claims the only reason he doesn't get 4G speeds at work is that there is no 4G there. I stop arguing and start surfing at 15mbps on my Thunderbolt.
72. gallitoking (Posts: 4571; Member since: 17 May 2011)
the american fandroids are dumb to think the SGII is all that. no one has seen it.. sure the especs are amazing.. but doesnt most phone are like that when they come out.. I remember the T-Bolt when it first came out.. it was the super phone, and which i tried to trade my Droid X to.. but rerturned it for a reason.. and now i see that i was not alone in that department.... we should stick to phones we have tried not based on some specs written on paper...
89. Pandamaja (unregistered)
no consumer in the US has seen the SGII. How many people around the rest of the world have? And they all say the same thing about it...
97. gallitoking (Posts: 4571; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wel they also say the love the iphone.. and your point is?... dont want to be rude.. just that there are plenty of phones android phone with better specs than the iphone 4 so use those . phones that can be proven... not based on paper...
116. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you forgot another reason why hawk is an idiot.
Microsoft owns about 25% of APPLE. you freaking IDIOT.. lol.
If it wasnt for MS bailing out apple back in the day, they wouldn't be around now for you to have a ridiculous thing to comment on.
MS makes TONS of money on Apple products. They also make it on Android products.
And Nokia makes money on Apple products because of their blatant rip off of nokia tech.
13. quakan (Posts: 990; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
to be honest most consumers don't know much about the stuff they buy anyways
16. codymws (Posts: 235; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)
HA! That's hilarious, and so true... I love it.
4. Laurynas (unregistered)
Power of brainwash !!! :D
5. gallitoking (Posts: 4571; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I think that is in smart phones in general.. most people I know that have a iphone or android phone just use it for games or Facebook.. and dont know the full potential of the phone. i am barely getting to use my Droid X for other things... as welll
7. Holgarth the Viking (unregistered)
Typical of sheep...
9. mahsan88 (Posts: 7; Member since: 03 Mar 2010)
It should read; More than 1 out of 3 Apple iPhone owners are borderline retarded. While the rest are considerably stupid.