More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon
0. phoneArena posted on 05 Aug 2008, 04:46
We have new information about the Touch Diamond (called Victor and Diamond) and its QWERTY sibling (the Herman and Raphael) which are expected with Sprint and Verizon Wireless ...
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115. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 05:19 0 0
Well, all is not lost with Verizon. Remember the xv6800, which has yet to see an official OS update? Those geniuses over at XDA Developers and PPCGeeks have made incredible ROMs for the xv6800, allowing people to unlock the GPS and EVDO Rev. A on that phone. This basically put the xv6800 firmly in line with its Sprint sister, the HTC Mogul. In my opinion, the new WM6.1 ROMs (some of which were built using Diamond WM6.1 cores) are significantly faster and more responsive than the original stock ROMs. Perhaps we'll see a similar move with the Diamond, although it will be more challenging this time due to hardware differences. I hear that TouchFlo 3D saps a lot of RAM and bogs down occasionally, so I wouldn't be surprised if some users just outright disabled it for better performance.
117. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 09:48 0 0
If you are a verizon fanatic like I am then why are we taking this Sprint memo so serious.. It is a "leaked" memo from Sprint.. How are they supposed to know what version of the phone Verizon is supposed to have. Grab a soda take a sip read another site and breath.. Wait for an official announcement from Verizon before you jump ship or go nuts.
133. LessthanZach posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:36 0 0
you're right, ppl will kill each other over phones. Kinda crazy, where's my pepsi?
119. Maarek (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 11:42 0 0
The lack of an accelerometer for Verizon does not make it less than Sprints. The choice was to keep the screen the same without moving it around. Testing is done and researchers (which include random people) didn't like the accelerometer and based on the questions asked, and the answers Verizon received, they opted NOT to include it. Put it this way. Do YOU like widescreen movies on 5:4 TVs? Most people that I talk to do not like the letterboxes strung across the screen and think the movie is SMALLER. But they are the same size and you see MORE of the surroundings with the widescreen on ANY TV. So if you think about it. The vote for the accelerometer was probably biased based on the result that turning the phone won't make the screen any bigger in the researcher's eyes on the HTC Diamond.
140. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 19:10 0 0
the acclerometer works perfectly in the gsms so i want it
121. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 11:51 0 0
About the ISM. The original touch diamond had 32mb alotted to help the video acceleration. My guess is since verizon has a weaker processor, they have more to make up for that loss.
134. LessthanZach posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:38 0 0
I think the ISM (which I believe is Internal system memory) is something along the lines of Processor Cache sizes on standard computers i.e. 1.5GHZ with 16MB cache. So yeah I think you're right.
122. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 12:22 0 0
ok I'ma make this very simple to everyone here bickering about the 2 companies and who has a bigger e-peen etc. Alot of sprint people are stating that Sprint actually cares for their customers in regards to providing them with handsets that are not changed in anyway from their original versions etc etc. While I might agree with this to a certain extent, I do not agree that they ACTUALLY care. If they actually cared, don't you think they would have addressed their network, customer svc, outsourced tech support, bad company decision making, etc etc waaaay before they decided to focus on making a consumer happy based on their handsets??? It's an old marketing strategy, and unfortunately it still works well here in the US. Us as in US citizens, tend to want the best looking devices and the high tech toys regardless of use for the sole purpose of saying "yes, I have that phone" I can't count how many times customers come into my location looking for a Bluetooth headset just based on its looks and don't care anything about the quality of the headset. It is this same concept that is keeping Sprint afloat. They take the above issues I mentioned and compare them cost whise vs better handsets and whalla, they take the cheaper route which is obviously catering to the US market by making handsets as they were intended by the manufacturer and at certain points even adding better features. This will only work for a small amount of time, its more like a temporary fix to their increasing churn rates, bad network, low penetrating frequency etc. If people want to say that Verizon cripples some handsets, I agree with that, they do sometimes make them work in favor of being able to sell their own products as opposed to ones offered from the device initially with the manufacturer's standard build. But honestly, what company doesn't do this to a certain extent. It is there type of changes that position a company in trend to accumulate the wealth to later make changes and adapt more to consumer preference. I believe in devices that work, do what they are intended to do, and anything extra is a given. Had Sprint not purchased Nextel and actually budgeted to make improvements to the network to stay close to Verizon, they definately would receive some merit from myself, but at this point, I don't care if they have a bit more memory on a handset or a certain feature that was initially intended for the handset, that isn't going to break my choice in regards to which company I want to have and it isn't going to change the minds of the majority either. I feel for Sprint in the sense that they honestly have no control of their future atm, but at least they are commited in offering a phone with the same specifications intended for that device upon release. With that said, good going with the new device launches and the future device launches, its honestly going to take a huge overhaul to even become a major competitor in the wireless industry again, and selling off nextel, pretty phones isn't going to make it any better. For those that hate on Verizon for their so called crippled handsets, you have a right to chose, and if you chose good looking handset over better service overall, then you my friend might be one of my future bluetooth customers, and yes, I have a great looking model waiting to add that look to either one of your beautiful earlobes. - Verizon Wireless Data Consultant
128. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 14:34 0 0
change your username to FANBOY in the interest of disclosure.
157. (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 17:17 0 0
It's voila! not whalla....consultant? I won't even go into the typos.
160. LessthanZach posted on 09 Aug 2008, 01:02 0 0
it's an internet forum. PPL CAN SPEL LIIKE SHIITE ALL THEYE WAHNT!!! Play some video games or do a crossword instead of pointing out typos on the internet.
123. moozx3 (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 12:43 0 0
Those pages look like they were scanned from a Playbook. But our current sprint playbook, doesn't have that info in it. Possibly next week's playbook will. There's info in this week's that point to this realease and info about it.
136. LessthanZach posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:40 0 0
I am finding out where my buddy got the document from in his intranet, when I find out I will let everyone know.
124. moozx3 (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 12:50 0 0
to top it off. What are the chances that BOTH carries and DEVICES are going to have huge software or hardware issues when they get released??? I won't be the first to own either. And some more interesting info I just found. The MOGUL from sprint will no longer be availble for ordering in SEPTEMBER. Could it be because of the diamond, aka Herman/Victor??
127. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 14:33 0 0
you must be retarded. this phone has been out for a couple of months in europe and has also recently had a rom upgrade. so lower the odds to about your iq and you will see that your entire post is stupid.
137. LessthanZach posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:44 0 0
I hate ppl who attack other ppls post like that. Just shut up and let ppl talk. The firmware is completely different for US phones, you tool, so it makes no difference what europe has. I would get the phone when it launches because it usually takes less than a quarter for a ROM update to launch. And I believe the answer for the September date you mentioned is : Yes, similar to the 6700 discontinuation with the launch of the 6800 mogul.
142. (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 01:36 0 0
then dont attack posts that are based on fact you idiot. what a stupid screen name.
144. LessthanZach posted on 07 Aug 2008, 03:05 0 0
it's alot better than "anonymous" you "idiot".
145. LessthanZach posted on 07 Aug 2008, 03:09 0 0
just because it is based on fact doesn't mean you need to call names. It just shows your lack of intelligence. And my screen name is based off of an inside joke which is not stupid to me.





