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More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

0. phoneArena 05 Aug 2008, 04:46 posted on

We have new information about the Touch Diamond (called Victor and Diamond) and its QWERTY sibling (the Herman and Raphael) which are expected with Sprint and Verizon Wireless ...

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posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:36

16. (unregistered)


yeah, how big of a deal is the 128mb ram? would the apps ran on the phone (email, web browsing, IM, etc.) be significantly slower on it?

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 11:32

27. (unregistered)


The motion G sensor is the other name of the well known Accelerometer, cuz it measures the acceleration of turning. *my 9 cents*

posted on 07 Aug 2008, 00:42

141. mike 1000 (unregistered)


its also used so that if a call comes thru you can flip the phone up side down and the phone will stop ringing

posted on 07 Aug 2008, 15:01

154. (unregistered)


#21 - from a technical standpoint yes they would be slower, but I bet that most of the extra ram that is in the sprint device is used to power the accellerometer. I have th xv6900 for verizon and 35% is always used up no matter what to power the TouchFLO interface. The diamond's beautiful interface must come at a price though. I bet between the interface and the Motion G sensor, there is probably 90-100 MB oF Ram already. Don't get me wrong I am PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSED!!!! that VZW isn't release the phone with the main feature that makes it trump the iPhone. But the VZW executives are not stupid there must be a reason. But out of protest I will not buy it. Besides, my two year contract ends in 2010, by then HTC will have the Touch Titanium or something that makes the Diamond look like a piece of junk anyways. I will just look funny like I did when I had my i730 for 2 years when the mogul/6800 came out for VZW. Calm down PEOPLE!!!

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:26

10. (unregistered)


all 4 phones list "Wirelss LAN 802.11 b/g" does this mean that all phones will have built in wireless? I would expect VZW to take this out instead of the accelerometer.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:32

14. (unregistered)


why would verizon take out the ability to use wifi? to me that should be pretty much standard on any pda/smartphone

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 10:13

22. Aphrophyre (unregistered)


You obviously don't know that Verizon *always* nerfs wi-fi on their PDAs/Smartphones

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 11:16

26. (unregistered)


What phone does Verizon have that is the exact same phone as Sprint with No wifi? please check your facts

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 12:06

33. Drewkkake (unregistered)


Uhhh... how about the Touch? How about YOU check your facts.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 13:58

42. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)


The touch for Sprint does NOT have WIFI. VZW has not taken wifi of of any of their HTC phones that I have been around for such as the 6800 5800 6900(never had it) or 6700.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 16:17

61. brunnettegirl412 (unregistered)


would you guys shut up

posted on 07 Aug 2008, 08:48

147. just visiting (unregistered)


One comment: my i760 has wfi, and it works very well, thank you.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:27

11. (unregistered)


I find it funny that Sprint somehow knows what versions of the phones verizon is going to have.. Anyone else think that smells fishy?

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 16:15

60. brunnettegirl412 (unregistered)


yes it does smell fishy.....so sprint can turn around and make SURE that they have a better working phone than verizon! so they basically copy vzw..........it sounds VERY TRUE..................plus im not saying sprint is better cause they're not

posted on 09 Aug 2008, 02:53

164. Big Kippa (unregistered)


How does Sprint copy Verizon? They always get phone's first and sometimes exclusively for a time. Name one phone that Verizon had first then Sprint "copied". You can't!!!

posted on 11 Aug 2008, 13:50

171. brunnettegirl412 (unregistered)


the sprint "muziq" was released AFTER the LG chocolate!!! and they did basically COPY them...........and wat do u mean they get phones first???? :/

posted on 11 Aug 2008, 13:52

172. (unregistered)


oh and the instinct is pretty much like the voyager too.....except for the QWERTY keyboard

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 03:50

181. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)


It's more like the Dare, which has been out almost 2 months now and feature wise beats the shit out of the instinct....

posted on 20 Aug 2008, 15:24

192. (unregistered)


Oh yeah features like Windows Live Search which is intigrated with Telenav and Threaded Text totally kill the Instinct....wait a min the Dare doesn't have either of those. You can have your 1.2 better mega pix cam and accelomerter (which only works while useing sertain apps) and I'll take the more practical every days use featurs.

posted on 20 Aug 2008, 15:50

193. (unregistered)


How did the Muziq copy the Chocolate? One is a slider and the other is a flip. Now the new Chocolate which released this year does look just like the Muziq which was released over two years ago so that is an example of Sprint getting a phone two years before and yes Muziq was the first phone in the US with an FM transmitter so VZW did basiclly COPY Sprint on that phone.

posted on 20 Aug 2008, 15:58

194. (unregistered)


Ok I meant the type Fusic not Muziq in post 211 (Damn Sprint and their fake word names for phones). The Fusic released in 06 and the Muziq is the new model which released this year. The Fusic was the first phone in the US with the FM trasmitter but the Muziq also has that feature. The Muziq may have released after the new chocolate but Fusic realeased a full two years and all three look the same.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:43

18. mjgio10494 (unregistered)


These phones need to come to AT&T... Verizon kills most phones anyways by putting their stupid operating system on all of them.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:55

20. Sandlord (unregistered)


Actually, not *entirely* true. I have a Samsung sch-i760, my wife a treo 700w, both on VZW, both running winmo, rather than Verizon's proprietary interface ui (which does, I agree, suck balls, it's why I never even considered the voyager/EnV2), and we are more than happy with them. I am also (as the above poster is) suspicious that Sprint has full specs on what the vzw versions are going to be. I call shenanigans on this alleged "update", though if true, I will be buying my touch pro (which I have been drooling over since I first saw it) in unlocked flavor, thank you very much.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 14:00

43. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)


vzw only puts its OS on non pda phones, thank you for your fact-less comment though.

posted on 29 Sep 2008, 02:43

213. Mogul User (unregistered)


Umm... the HTC Touch Pro is coming to AT&T. It's going to be called the Fuze. The FCC has already passed the GSM version of the phone for the U.S. on AT&T's slightly different, Americanized 3G network. You should check Engadget and Gizmodo sometimes. They can be your best friends in this regard. Anywho, to every bickering over the carriers... I work for AT&T as an Authroized Technician. I service a lot of phones first hand on a daily basis, and I know what they're flaws and bugs are. Not to mention I do my research before I slander any carrier or device. First off, I have always been a Sprint customer through the good,the bad, and the ugly mainly because Sprint has the best phones (hands down). That is why I stuck with Sprint because even though they were the very last carrier to get unlimited available nationwide, they are the only carrier they has "true unlimited". No carrier to this day can beat the "Simply Everything Plan" for only $99.99. This is coming from someone who has AT&T service for free. That alone should tell you something... With that said, I have a friend that has been defending VZW since I met him. He would always bash me for having Sprint. Back when Verizon didn't gimp phones, he and I had the infamous Palm Treo 700wx. It was considered to be the best Windows Mobile Device in early 2007. We used to always debate on the issue of who was the better carrier. We even compared coverage maps. BTW, Sprint has the most coverage in southern states. I live in Texas. So to speed ahead and make a long story short, It wasn't too long before I got the Treo that after 6 months I decided to buy a Sprint Mogul, which is the equivalent to Verizon's XV6800. Now although I went through plenty of updates for that phone, Sprint always worked with HTC to improve the device to the best of their ability. They had overall about several updates which were a few bug fixes, added Sprint supported features, and some radio updates. Verizon only released one official update which was the WM 6.1 software. Therefore, all kitchen ROMS that were cooked up by PPCGeeks and XDADevelopers were from previous and recent Sprint HTC Mogul updates. My friend got his XV6800 over 6 months ago and uses one of these kitchen ROMS. This page ended up being the straw broke the camels back when he found this list on this site because of his anticpation for this device. We always had the same taste, but not the same know how. When he found this to be true. He automatically conceded to our days of debating who was overall better. I know my post was a little overdrawn, but I feel this story needed to be shared. I like Verizon just as well as Sprint, but overall you must admit that Sprint has the better package for customers in the long run. Even over AT&T, and I work for them. LOL

posted on 29 Sep 2008, 03:09

215. Mogul User (unregistered)


P.S. He says he is going to join Sprint now. LOL... no j/k

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 09:44

19. j0esm00 (unregistered)


why the hell cant verizon get something with some quality in its network, here a perfectly good device they strip the shit out of it and now we get something that works like the Voyager with the ability to add in business features. Damn mutant phones I tell ya. Does anyone know if we can get an unlocked sprint version and program it for Verizon? Please don't try to sell me on sprint either the phones are good the network and the billing suck been there done that and it was the worst year for cell phone use I had ever had I even got a home phone during the time cuz they sucked so bad I never knew if I was going to be able to call

posted on 22 Aug 2008, 11:55

200. (unregistered)


You will have to wait for the "Any Device" open network to use any CDMA phone that is not in their database.

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 10:04

21. pecoy (unregistered)


what about the GSM models?..i seen an article that they had already passed the FCC..any idea if they are releasing on AT&T and TMOBILE?

posted on 05 Aug 2008, 10:14

23. Kent (unregistered)


Still wish we had the Camera on both sides like the pictures show...... and I'm not understanding why the Victor/Diamond doesn't have a camera flash...? Any ideas on whether or not the cameras in these are as nice as the Moguls? with great pictures, custom backgrounds, panorama, etc? I do agree with #16....think it might just be a selling agent since we get it first.....but still......Sprints PDA's are always better.... Wish Sprint was the one that got the original names of Diamond and Raphael though........Victor and Herman don't sound as cool....I mean.... HERMAN??? who thought of that name?

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