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More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

0. phoneArena posted on 05 Aug 2008, 04:46

We have new information about the Touch Diamond (called Victor and Diamond) and its QWERTY sibling (the Herman and Raphael) which are expected with Sprint and Verizon Wireless ...

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129. (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:05

cellphones are build on order for the carriers DUh vzw is cheap, sprint is trying to avoid defections

130. LessthanZach posted on 06 Aug 2008, 15:20

I, personally, am waiting for either the Raphael or the Thunder. The Thunder will have an accelerometer and will be all touch, and the Raphael will switch orientation with the simple slide of the keyboard. I do agree that the Diamond will be too similar to the current Touch (which I own and can't stand). I think I am just going to opt for the thunder seeing as I have better stability and enjoy the messaging and speed of the blackberry os much much more.

148. b (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 10:22

You're an idoit. All of vzw phones are lock or missing the best thing about the phone. All sprint phones are unlocked and aren't missing anything as far as what you can do with it. The rev a network kills vzw by far and the new 4g wimax will kill them more. Hands down you can do way more with sprint phones

151. Mike aka El Gordo (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 13:42

I used to work for sprint and cant remember how many times i sold a black berry world edition for them. yeah verizon has better quality phones in the long run but every provider is basicaly in the same boat when it comes to BlackBerrys. Only difference might be the black berry internet price plan. but i wont lie if the specs are true, it means sprint is starting to make somewhat of a comeback

153. Unlocked network (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 14:52

Verizon will most likely unlock their network next year so buy the sprint version full retail then use on vzw's network. I can only assume that installing a microSD reader takes up more space than static 4gb internal memory so some other stuff had to go. BTW - does anyone know if the raphael will have the motion sensor?

156. (unregistered) posted on 07 Aug 2008, 15:21

get your info straight..... mogul= pda (try comparing it to the 6800 ...same phone on vzw)....voyager, glyde, env2 are not smartphones. rumor....just ugly and copy copy of the env... chocolate3....because it's a very good flipphone with more features (media wise) than anything sprint has in the same category or anyone else in the us for that matter. i have sprint and verizon phones. verizon has better selection of phones. sprint has a couple of phones i would rate good devices but overall...not even close. sprint does have less expensive plans though..BIG PLUS being a sprint customer also ...i feel as if sprint digging their own grave...hope not. but the writing is on the wall.

158. (unregistered) posted on 08 Aug 2008, 03:11

I agree mostly about the Verizon Wireless stuff; however, Verizon FiOS is the best in the country for home phone, internet, and TV. Imagine, unlimited landline, 10 Mbps down/2 Mbps up, and 200+ TV channels for $100.00/mo...and for $12.00 more, you can get 20 Mbps download speads (un-fricken-believable).

159. LessthanZach posted on 09 Aug 2008, 00:56

FiOS will rock when it gets here (norcal). Can't wait, have all of my services bundled into one bill and all superior to the rest.

163. Big Kippa (unregistered) posted on 09 Aug 2008, 02:41

ummm Sprint does have the blackberry world edition knob bobber, and guess what theirs is unlocked!!!!! Unlike Verizon who makes you use their SIM card when traveling globaly or it won't work. Sprint's 8830 can use any SIM card when international allowing much more freedom and cheaper international rates, do your homework please before posting. Sprint as 4 more phones coming out this year from Samsung alone, including a dual slider, and an evdo slider similar to the rumor. Voyager, Glyde, and ENV are garbage phones. Don't post shit if you don't know what you are talking about.

167. tazkaza (unregistered) posted on 10 Aug 2008, 01:39

actually, verizon, being the carrier, has quite a lot of say on what features get into the phone. besides, if the phone has the features in the first place (i.e. the unlocked version released in Asia and Europe), then the carrier doesn't have to pay more for the features. that would make no sense.

174. n3o (unregistered) posted on 12 Aug 2008, 19:44

the phone doesn't need an accelerometer? you obviously DO NOT know what accelerometer does. Since Nintendo Wii took the world by storm with that, every single gadget wishes they had accelerometer. Even new digital cameras have it. It totally changes the way you see pictures and videos, play games, and it WILL provide a big breakthrough for software developers. You need to search for 'teeters' on youtube. Lots of third party developers are already designing big things based on this feature alone.

176. (unregistered) posted on 13 Aug 2008, 10:05

Integrated Services Module (ISM) locks memory and makes it unavailable to other processes or the OS.

179. (unregistered) posted on 15 Aug 2008, 02:30

the dare has lesser issues than the Instinct. Sprint service sucks. Dare get better reception.

180. LessthanZach posted on 15 Aug 2008, 03:48

You also post shit that you do not know about. The voyager and the EnV series are great phones. Look up some reviews.

182. (unregistered) posted on 15 Aug 2008, 16:45

stop smokin crack, the dare is way better then you instinct. sorry man

187. (unregistered) posted on 19 Aug 2008, 22:50

I am held hostage to vzw too. They are the worst wireless network I have had so far. This is just one more nail in the coffin for them

191. (unregistered) posted on 20 Aug 2008, 13:52

ummm actual sprint does the world edition blackberry...they have had it for a while...

195. (unregistered) posted on 20 Aug 2008, 22:46

Verizon did cripple the Diamond, they didn't want it to use the full bandwidth of verizon. This is comming from my source in corp verizon. I'm not trying to bash, but there is no reason to pay more for a phone with the original specs.

196. (unregistered) posted on 21 Aug 2008, 03:01

If the verizon version really does **** ***** I'm gonna get the Sprint version and demand that verizon adds it too their database and then I will flash the ROM with a custom rom ( GPS unlocked, no VZW branding etc...) if they don't add me to the database.... Hello sprint. Who is with me????

197. (unregistered) posted on 21 Aug 2008, 12:29

sprint DOES have a world edition blackberry, the 8830, the same one vzw has. Nice try vzw fan girl. Sprint has every thing vzw with more reliable phones. They may not do as much, but they dont break as often. LG sucks btw

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