More information about Verizon's new Enhanced Multimedia Phone Data Plans
0. phoneArena posted on 31 Aug 2009, 14:07
Before you purchase the Samsung Rogue U960 next week, you need to read this about the new Data Plans...
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26. Kiltlifter posted on 31 Aug 2009, 22:50 0 0
kiltlifter is a beer. But I bet you aren't old enough to drink.
28. Kiltlifter posted on 31 Aug 2009, 22:56 0 0
And I love how you can't form a single rebuttal to my comment, instead you attack my name. I attacked her name because she was posting about how the leaked information will hurt employee STI, so I responded with logical and correct anecdotal information referenced basic economic theory. It was just too simple to conclude a childish name meant childish understanding. I will stop using more than 2 syllables in words form now on when i post on here so users like you can understand. Maybe I should just leave out articles and proper nouns and just point and grunt so you may understand.
10. DonLouie posted on 31 Aug 2009, 17:52 0 0
What's to stop them from making this a requirement for the Versa, Dare, Krave or enV Touch?
12. BrokenImaege posted on 31 Aug 2009, 18:21 0 0
Not considered an enhanced device. Won't be required
44. fairisfair posted on 01 Sep 2009, 23:29 0 0
those are enhanced devices, but are grandfathered. this is probably done to prevent even more confusion. Sepy 8th release dates and on for equipment
11. BrokenImaege posted on 31 Aug 2009, 18:20 0 0
Basicly what this means, is that if you want a "cool" phone, then pay for the actual features and use the device for what it is intended for. If you don't need the capabilities, why have the phone? It is like buying a porche. Why buy a porche that is only a 4 cylinder???? You buy it because of what it can do. Same here. If you buy a phone for style, that is just plain dumb. Stop complaining about an extra $10 to put something on a Connect Plan that allows you to do most of what the phone can do. Also, for the Verizon Employee, do you really think this is going to hurt your STI? Really??? Whether people know now, or September 8th, it is what it is. It won't stop people from buying the phone and it won't stop people from getting service. I have over 12 renewal refferals waiting for this phone and are willing to pay the service for it. What this will do is cause people to make a choice. And for us as sales reps, this is great considering our return device quota as well. I am happy about this.
17. WKlingbeil posted on 31 Aug 2009, 19:28 0 0
Once again, how is a mid-range dumbphone even considered a Porsche in your analogy? The Samsung Rogue is more like a... Honda Accord, and yes, they do have 4-cylinders available. As a matter of fact, I believe they make hybrids for the Accord, so what phone is that? Anyway, a QWERTY keyboard is for texting, not for emailing, or any of the other nonsense VZW tries to push on customers. I have the mobile email plan, and I use it for BASIC emailing, because it is NOT a strong enough email client to use it seriously. Same goes for the internet, it is not a very good internet service, and definitely doesn't warrant a mandatory data plan. Maybe if VZW would make programs worth having a data plan, that would be a different story. Why would I want to be forced to pay for a data plan that's nearly as much as a Blackberry data plan, for a sorry excuse for the internet? I know you love this because you'll get so much more commission for the extra data plans, but look at it from a consumer's perspective, it doesn't make sense. Your analogy for the Porsche's rings 100% true, if you were talking about Blackberries or PDA's, because they NEED data plans. But for a dumbphone? Why do you think they're called dumbphones? Because they're smart and advanced?
19. BrokenImaege posted on 31 Aug 2009, 20:11 0 0
Have you seen the internet browser on the Rogue?????? And the analogy was to prove a point that why do you get something you aren't going to use all the features within the device
25. lolipopjones posted on 31 Aug 2009, 22:32 0 0
So you are telling me i should go with a phone that can barely render a site as well as the iPhone or Palm Pre? The browser sucks compared to Android, iPhone, and Pre devices. DUmb phones can have nice features but that doesn't mean you can use it. Your Porsche analogy makes no sense because yeah i can buy the car (I have 1960 mint condition 911 inherited from my father) but that doesn't mean i will be driving 160 down the highway. Car analogies make no sense ever.... A car is always restricted by local traffic laws.....
30. YouLostTheGame posted on 31 Aug 2009, 23:18 0 0
Actually my father would be in the category of someone who buys a car for styling and not for "what it can do". He owns a 2004 911 Turbo X50 Cabrio. The car has about 7,800 miles on it, and he's NEVER had it past fourth gear. He's always been a Porsche lover in terms of styling and engineering. The power to him is just a bonus he'll NEVER use. In fact I would argue that's why MOST people buy supercars. It's not because they'll race them, it's simply because they are stylish and head-turners. Just like someone who wants to buy a nice "feature phone" but doesn't plan on using it to it's full capabilities. Not to mention the fact that when you buy a supercar, the dealership doesn't make you sign a piece of paper stating that you'll use the car to it's full capabilities. Agree with lolipopjones...car analogies make no sense in terms of this...right up there with HDTV analogies about this.
43. fairisfair posted on 01 Sep 2009, 23:25 0 0
but you still had to pay the full price of the car . with phones there is the price of the equipment which also happens to be tied into monthly pricing requirements. enhanced devices(video,mp3,html web browsing) now and for the forseeable future will be tied to additional monthly fees. Again I dont make the rules, I am just stating that the policies deployed by thes companies are thought out months , if not years, in advance of their launch. I just dont see how complaining about these issues will change anything. but if it makes you feel better....
45. actionmph posted on 02 Sep 2009, 01:45 0 0
Do you put in Regular, Plus or Premium in the car? Do you use synthetic, mix or traditional weight oil? Just as car companies/part makers give you options and recomended services so do cell service providers.
48. WKlingbeil posted on 02 Sep 2009, 10:26 0 0
I have, and just because the internet is better than other dumbphones, doesn't change the fact that it's a dumbphone, and there is no comparison at all to your average smartphone. I'm almost 100% sure that this whole data requirement for dumbphones is to encourage people to buy smartphones. "Oh, so you're not satisfied with paying $20 for the data plan on this phone that doesn't render internet pages properly? Did you know that for $10 more, you can get a much more satisfying experience with a smartphone?" VZW is becoming very obvious in their shameful self-promoting. I mean, this whole thing is essentially useless, because if you have a good employee discount, like Boeing, or even Home Depot, you get 20% off of the $29.99 data for a PDA, so that brings it down to $23.99. Why not pay the extra $3.99 to get the smartphone? It's utterly ridiculous to require data plans on dumbphones, even though we've known this has been coming since the middle of last year.
18. WKlingbeil posted on 31 Aug 2009, 19:35 0 0
Oh, and one final thing... THE PLAN ISN'T EVEN UNLIMITED! "Mr/Mrs. customer, we require this data plan because we don't want little Johnny here to have MB charges, making a bill that is outrageous." To which Mr/Mrs. customer replies, "Well, why isn't it unlimited then? Apparently, you only care 75MB's about me, above that, you can just rot."
20. BrokenImaege posted on 31 Aug 2009, 20:12 0 0
And the TRUE UNLIMITED PLANS are the connect and premium plans!!!!!!! Most plans are unlimited texting anyways so $10 more to move to a connect plan to have unlimited will be the way to go!!!!! Anyone who would go with either 9.99 or 19.99 plan would just be dumb in the first place.
49. WKlingbeil posted on 02 Sep 2009, 10:30 0 0
Once again, that's the point. MOST of plans are not select, a lot of them are, but the majority are not. Once again, that's yet another way to force the consumer into paying more money. "Well, why don't you purchase a select plan, and upgrade to a connect plan, and that way you get unlimited." It's simply more and more ways to gauge every customer that wants a decent phone.
22. cellaholic posted on 31 Aug 2009, 21:52 0 0
I agree this is why things shouldn't be leaked out people start running with it and most the time don't have all their facts set before they start bashing companies. First off if you read what it says it said they have the options between the 9.99 or 19.99 but you'd have to be stupid to pay 19.99 for 75mb when on the connect plan you get unlimited which is real unlimited no overage no 5g plan. 2nd it's a company they are trying to earn money just like any other company. I like what was said before about the HDTV ....if you don't want to pay don't get the phone that's the price you pay for getting the 'cool' new phones. Also I think that gryffindor chick was saying leaking of any info not just this sounds like they are fed up with people not waiting till the time it's released for people to find out. Didn't this happen with vzw unlimited plan and then that same week everyone else came out with something to compete? What's STI is that important? I have an Omani I love I have Internet in the palm of my hand....my kid wanted one, he is in high school he doesn't need that he needs to worry about grades he has a nokia don't remember the number when he's done with school we'll talk. I think if he wants this data plan though would be a good thing to make him pay. about time parents get a little more control on what our kids 'try' to get when it's not piratical in this economy.
29. YouLostTheGame posted on 31 Aug 2009, 23:09 0 0
I understood your points and could see where you were coming from right up until you mention "I like what was said before about the HDTV...if you don't want to pay don't get the phone..." I'M NOT REQUIRED TO BUY HD PROGRAMMING WHEN I PURCHASE A NEW HDTV! In fact I know of several people like me that just wanted a bigger television and their old box TVs were crapping out on them and so we have all gotten bigger TVs and NONE of us has HD programming! Comparing HDTVs and this crap from VZW is the stupidest analogy ever...right next to the previous analogy of what's happening and buying a Porsche! I also notice the fact that it seems that the only people on here that are "happy" about this are VZW reps/employees. Go figure.
35. cellaholic posted on 01 Sep 2009, 07:38 0 0
I don't work for them I work in for a doctors office....should get your facts befor you start something. I like the hdtv because cable companies control those channles and charge a lot for you to even watch tv.
46. actionmph posted on 02 Sep 2009, 01:49 0 0
don't forget you pay for channels just to get infomercials all night long too... my two bits
