More info on BlackBerry Storm 2 says it will offer new way to type
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source: tweakers (Translated) via UnwiredView
1. heavybreathing (Posts: 276; Member since: 26 Feb 2009)
Hum...widespread BB Storm hate? Blackberry itself wanting to release the phone under a different name because of its bad reputation? "Bad taste in the mouths of the cellphone buying public"? How bizzar...they just COULDN'T be talking about the Storm. NO WAY. TRAGIC! It's just TOO BAD though because with Verizons AMAZING service and FLAWLESS coverage its distressing to know that this PERFECT carrier has a phone that has such a bad reputation. Good thing that Verizon customers are intelligent and didn't get this phone the first time around.
3. Legion (Posts: 397; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
"The name of the phone also is up in the air as the negative press and reviews that accompanied the release of the first Storm model might have left a bad taste in some of the mouths of the cellphone buying public. " I dont think that was part of what the Rim spokeman had said, that was an editorial comment by phonearena. All that thought and posting for nothing, its sad really. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
18. Dood (Posts: 269; Member since: 23 Mar 2009)
Wait...you have a blackjack? And your giving Blackberry crap? Haha...I no longer take you seriously, kid.
22. E.N. (Posts: 2224; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
You don't know really know though what the article is saying. So before you say its sad that he commented for no reason, make sure you know that the reason for the possible change of name could really be due to bad publicity. I'm not agreeing or disagree with heavybreathing, but why is Verizon fighting for the name Voyager 2?
32. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)
Its all about marketing. I don’t think it would be a necessarily "bad" idea to change the name of the Storms successor. If you think about it how stupid was it for iPhone to rename their next phone iPhone "3G", the synonymously OBVIOUS current generation of wireless speed, could you imagine if the names of Verizon’s phones if WE did that...oh here’s the Voyager 3G, and the Dare 3G, and the Alias 3G...or for you old folks the Knack 3G with a slogan "You might be slow but your phone, aint". even if they don’t call it the Storm 2 everyone else will. We could call it the Blackberry Aneurism, and people would say, "yeah, its pretty much the storm 2 if you ask me"...So with that being said it cant really be good or bad whatever they name it, just don’t make it extremely obvious that your desperate for attention...
2. The Godfather (unregistered)
wow obsess much? BB Storm is exclusive to VZW, and that makes it a winner time and time again. No matter which version of the Storm gets released, the brand belongs to VZW here in the states. And I didnt see you spazzing out in the 3rd gen I Phone posts a couple days ago....seeing how apple has released their next gen once a year, is it acceptable for them to keep releasing a faulty product and try again next year, but no one else? Oh yeah .... I forgot.... you would not know anything about an ADVANCED device since you a BJ2 victim ( dont worry, there arent many out there that fell prey to such a trashy device ), so I guess your just bitter . BB Storm 1 2 and 3 for the win
4. SellPhones82 (Posts: 477; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Godfather...you are now crowned King Douchebag on phonearena with a land slid victory. I love how you clown his phone (BJ2) which was the highest rated smartphone of 2008. http://www.engadget.com/2008/1
2/18/samsung-blackjack-ii-tops-consumer-reports-list-of-best-smartph/It is good to see RIM update the typing on the Storm since it was one of the biggest complaints. The Storm 2 should be a pretty good phone with most/all the bugs worked out and a few extra tweeks since it should have a leat .113 which fixes this massive list of bugs. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/ 2009/03/30/verizon-counting-on-build-113-for-its-next-storm-firmware-releas/
5. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Don't agree. The BJ2 runs Windows...NO THANKS! Any device running a version of Windows Mobile = FAIL in my opinion. Consumer Reports doesn't get EVERYTHING right. I love how people quote Consumer Reports as being this all-knowing God-like magazine. A lot of their "research" includes getting surveys mailed back to them that they sent out. How can we be sure that it wasn't just more of a BJ2 population that responded to the mailed surveys?
6. heavybreathing (Posts: 276; Member since: 26 Feb 2009)
You seem to make every excuse in the world why everything you say makes sense and why everyone who disagrees with you is a "loser". So now people who own the phone and rated the phone itself are wrong? How does this make sense?
8. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
And you seem to be in seventh grade where you obvioulsy can't read nor understand the concept of statistics. I'll let you re-read my original post to find your OWN flaw.
9. artz1986 (Posts: 453; Member since: 11 Mar 2009)
...no offense, but you sound like one of those political strategists trying to rebut a poll result...kinda funny. Btw 'Windows Mobile= FAIL' yet so many people continue to use devices with Win Mo on it, thats pretty contradictory, don't you think?
10. artz1986 (Posts: 453; Member since: 11 Mar 2009)
..I dunno, just something about you that makes me wanna correct you, but I really don't think you know too much about statistics either, especially when it comes to polling. For one, if they do send out a survey by mail, they I doubt they'd go right at it and ask the 1,000,000 question, there is always other questions asked in a survey to make sure that the results don't sway more one way than the other, so the end result can be pretty close to accurate, aswell as keeping the margin or error down. They do take these things into consideration, especially when they have a business based on polling and such... man, I really don't think ppl use their heads..
11. heavybreathing (Posts: 276; Member since: 26 Feb 2009)
Don't try to talk sense with him artz, not going to work. He needs to get a job with Fox News, he would fit perfect with them, you know...because obviously statistics lie and the only numbers that are correct are the ones that are in favor with Verizon.
12. SellPhones82 (Posts: 477; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Youlost...I don't agree that it's the best smartphone either and it was more a shot at GF because he is big on the JD Power awards or any survey that favors VZW (as are all VZW fansboys) but are quick to down play any which do not apply to them. Both survey cusotmers and get their options and post the results....that's it. It is hard to argue against numbers because numbers don't lie. If you ask anybody that has a device running Symbian they will tell you that RIM, WInMO, OS X, Linux, Palm OS or anything I forget all suck A$$ because of the 139 million smartphones shipped in 2008 almost 73 million (52% of the market) were running Symbian. Also way to pull at straws with your lame “How can we be sure that it wasn't just more of a BJ2 population that responded to the mailed surveys?" I can come right back and say "How can we be sure all of JD's surveys weren't to customers that live with a mile or two of a tower?" Answer....we can't! By the way, I've got a life and wish there were more hours in the day becasue I've got so much going on right now. Livin' life to the fullest and lovin' it!
13. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
As if you make SO much sense. All you do is come on to posts with BB or iphone in the heading and tell everyone how we're all a bunch of idiots (paraphrasing) for owning anything other than your precious BJ2. How are you any different than anyone else on here? Seems to me you're a GIANT hypocrite telling all of us off while being guilty of the same "infraction". At least my posts aren't full of self contradiction. And @ artz1986: You can count yourself naive to think surveys don't produce ANY kind of bias whatsoever.
19. heavybreathing (Posts: 276; Member since: 26 Feb 2009)
Give me one example of where I say the Blackjack 2 is better than ANY phone on the market. And where have I EVER contradicted myself? I say good things about both the iphone and the BB storm. Where have I straight attacked either phones features besides the storm's wiggly screen? Oh wait, you can't.
20. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Oh believe me, if I REALLY wanted to wade through all the previous articles, I could most certainly find where you have "straight attacked" the BB Storm. One in particular comes to mind when it was reported that version .113 was going to be the next "official" software upgrade, and you were the first one to post, and you said that the Storm's hardware was "still crap". But in the spirit of playing childish games, I'd like to know where you "say good things" about the BB Storm. And yes, you are in contradiction of yourself when you diss people for supporting their device and then follow the end of your posts with BJ2 FTW. LOL! You crack me up! Especially in a post where you challenge The Godfather to "prove" to all of us how he knows what he knows by challenging him to tell us all where he works! Since when did you start caring more about the "cyber-world" than the real one? How old are you really?
25. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
@Godfather... Did you not read what I posted about a week ago? You are an ignorant bastard. No offense, but really, get a life. BJ2 was an incredible successful phone, rated #1 Smartphone of 2008 by Consumer Reports. Stop spouting false info dude.
26. brikz4real (Posts: 173; Member since: 24 Dec 2008)
"Any device running a version of Windows Mobile = FAIL in my opinion."......... from Comment #7 READ....IN .... MY ..... O-PIN-ION......... A statement as such can either be OPINION or FACT. This is a matter of OPINION. Opinions are like butt-holes, everybody....well, you know the rest. WinMo has sold millions, as did Apple, Symbian, Blackberry, and Android. Hopefully WebOS will be as successful. I think it will............OPINION.
27. world1-1 (Posts: 11; Member since: 09 Apr 2009)
I hope the storm is better than the first. Then again, that's not too hard to beat. :)
33. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)
FYI before you start spatting off at people who know what they are talking about, with little or no introduction or advertising, exactly HOW do expect US to believe that Black Jack 2 had any leverage on ANY sort of competition of ANY phone released in '07, '08, or even (i know a little premature) '09? Everyone has seen the half WinMo half Qwerty, its on a 3G wannabe network running software that only updates after a new phone is released, and an operating system that runs the same criteria. Ive ran several WinMo phones enough to know that if I want any updates I mine as well wait for a new phone because Version X.X isnt coming out for my current device...So I'd say consumer reports is nothing but fodder at this point...
7. The Godfather (unregistered)
anything running windows mobile as of right now is J U N K. windows is junk BB Storm FTW and thanks for the compliments guys, I love you all too :O)
17. belve14 (Posts: 113; Member since: 31 Mar 2009)
I agree with the winmo statement but you have a sense of retardation to think that anybody is complimenting you. You have made yourself probably the one of the biggest Verizon wireless/bb storm ***** fans ever. You think you are right all the time when you make any comment at all. Well someone like yourself is just a lame a$$ little prick that will get slapped like a little bi t ch cause he runs his mouth to much. Act like a man and not a kid cause all you do is say anything to get attention and you cant admitt when your wrong. Have a great day lol
15. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Well since we're going to play the "3rd party consumer research card", I'll just let everyone in on the fact that both JD Power and Consumer Reports have given top honors to VZW across the board as the best, most reliable carrier in America in regards to call quality, clarity, customer service and dropped calls (JD also gave top honors to T-Mobile in certain regions of the states as well). While these top honors were being given to VZW, it's also key to note that AT&T fell into the absolute BOTTOM of the ratings in the same catagories. Face it people, your phone is only as good as the network it's on. And Windows Mobile + AT&T network is asking for failure. And some of you out there wondering "If Windows is so bad, how come so many people use it?". That's a stupid question to ask. People use all kinds of things, tech related or not that are stupid for reasons God only knows. Just ask a smoker why they smoke when the habit is clearly a death-dealer (as proven by years upon years of RESEARCH, since this forum is so keen on the use of research to prove a point).
16. SellPhones82 (Posts: 477; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Good post...I agree with all of it except for "your phone is only as good as the network it's on. If the phone it's self is a POS and won't connent to a network or the manufature rushed the phone out too early and there are major flaws the network means jack. It goes both ways. I could not tell you how many time I hear people say "I hate (insert carrier) becasue this phone freezed up all the time. It is the phone not the carrier that is the problem but the carrier gets the blame becasue their logos is on it. You kinda stretched your facts a little on the JD survey. VZW won top honors but not in every region and At&t was not at the bottom of all of them either. A CDMA carrier was at the top or tied in each region though since call quality is better on CDMA. http://www.phonearena.com/html
21. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Respectfully, I disagree. But you now DO have me convinced you work for a 3rd party consumer research firm! LOL! I love at the beginning of your post where you say "Good post...I agree with all of it except for..." and then you proceed to trash the entire thing! I'll have to look you up when I need a person who's good at complimenting someone right before they square up and kick them in the nuts! You're great bro!
23. tflex (Posts: 146; Member since: 24 Oct 2008)
its pretty obvious godfather knows he is hated... he is being annoying on purpose which is very immature for such a high payed verizon employee he claims he is. maybe godfather is really a middle school student.
24. The Godfather (unregistered)
you think? and I find it very very amusing. I seen someone else use this sn at another phone site and do the exact same thing to others as I do here , and I said why not. classic BB Storm ftW
28. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
It's True. Idiots Reveal themselves. Thanks man.
29. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
I don't hate The Godfather, he calls 'em like he sees 'em. And I've seen very a many alleged AT&T and Sprint employees on this site say things that simply amaze me. Much worse than what he says, but hey, it's all good right? We all know if you can't avoid profanity you're just uneducated and moronic, right?
30. heavybreathing (Posts: 276; Member since: 26 Feb 2009)
So you're not even an original troll? Fantastic. Here's a tip on how to troll well. Be subtle...not over the top. Make the ignorance slip over time...don't call people gay at first. Trolling is an art you haven't mastered yet, but you may get better.
31. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Nice... Trolling lessons... haha! Love it.
34. icarus (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
I know i'm in the minority but i gotta say i'm glad to be one of the people still ruinning .75 and besides my nightly battery pull, have no problems whatsoever.. Actually my fiance would make two of us... oh well curious to see if this is anything more than rumors and internet hysteria