More Tegra K1 benchmarks confirm it's the fastest mobile chipset, Apple A7 and Snapdragon 800 kneel again
1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If this chip comes equipted with LTE, I seriously hope Samsung uses it for the Note 4.
8. ihavenoname (Posts: 1560; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
There will maybe be even better processors when it's coming, but this really seems excellent.
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Doubt anything will top the Tegra 5. The closest thing to match it would be the A8, which in theory when it's 2x faster than the A7, it will match the power GPU wise but not CPU wise - even though iOS 7/8 won't need it.
36. ocilfa (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
You've got that mixed up. The CPU on the Tegra 5 is somewhat average, while the GPU is whats unmatched so far. Project Denver is when the K1's CPU will be improved.
49. a_merryman (Posts: 744; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Yeah, I can't wait to see what the Denver version of this chip can do when it gets released in the 2H of the year.
19. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Same was said about the Exynos 4 series but Samsung integrated LTE for the Note 2.
23. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
if nvidia integrate LTE into Tegra K1 they will said it. but last i heard for K1 still need separate chip for modem and OEM can choose to bundle K1 with their i500 if they want to. not sure if nvidia will coming up with something similar to tegra 4i with K1. maybe we will know more in the upcoming MWC
29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I can't wait for MWC. If NVIDIA wants market share, they'd integrate LTE considering the world is now pushing for LTE instead of 3G.
46. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
IMO if nvidia really want market share they should do what qualcomm or mediatek has been doing. make chip for different performance segment (entry level/mid range/ high end) based on your newest tech and don't just hope your last year best SoC to automatically fill the lower performance segment once you came out with your latest flagship. it doesn't have to be many but at least try to cater for each of this performance segment.
37. Dr.Phil (Posts: 954; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
It's not very likely that Samsung would use the Tegra K1 for any of their flagship series (or any of their phones for that matter). However, it is possible that you could see Samsung or even LG (a company that is also developing it's own mobile chipset) use the Kepler technology for their GPU. nVidia did announce last year that they would be licensing out their Kepler technology to those interested in wanting to use it.
2. aayupanday (Posts: 540; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
I Doubt any GPU will beat that 192 core Kepler this year or even another half..
4. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
We will find out in Sept. when Apple unleashes it's A8 chip.
16. true1984 (Posts: 622; Member since: 23 May 2012)
i'm skeptical since they said the same thing about the tegra 3's 12 core gpu and that was terrible.
21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
But the Tegra 4 "72 core" GPU is on par with PowerVR G6630.
40. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
I like that, what you just said there Papsmurf
The mighty PVR6630 GPU is immense, and that's only clocked at standard 476Mhz, if overclocked to 700Mhz could you imagine a Phones GPU giving you 300Gigaflops. That's twice the power off Adreno420
44. grahaman27 (Posts: 356; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
The tegra 3 had a 12 core GPU that wasn't as good as the ipad retina that was out at the time. Now its twice as good.
3. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)
In GFXBench 2.7 does it run in native 4K resolusion or downscaled to 1080p? Because in the onscreen test it doesn't performs quite well..
6. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
for the off screen test were running on native res
31. nokia12 (Posts: 446; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)
the offscreen test runs at 1080p fixed for all gpu.. this allows for fair comparison of raw power of gpu..
the.onscreen test runs at native resolution I.e 4k in this case and hrnce poor performance in onscreen
5. apurb.lal (Posts: 13; Member since: 17 Oct 2013)
Everybody knows that Nvivia is a highly capable chipmaker.. It was about time that they caught with are mobile soc makers... The performance is just awesome , have to see how is their power efficacy.. They seem to be all prepared for 2014 except for 64bit processing.
9. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
most likely they will be the first with high end 64 bit SoC as well. the first sample of K1 with denver core just coming out late/early this year and nvidia expect device based on it will appear in second half of this year. (the are already rumor about next Surface (for ARM) will use Tegra K1 with denver core variant)
10. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
this benchmark is based on lenovo device that were shown during CES (it's the only company showing real device with tegra K1 apart from nvidia prototype 7 inch tablet - and it was surprise that lenovo let tom's hardware bench them).
maybe we will see numbers for snapdragon 805 in MWC
41. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
S805 is just an overclocked S800 by 200Ghz and 40% more GPU power, which the S800 gives 130Gigaflops, X40% = 170Gigaflops..
12. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)
The scores are good, but the Tegra K1 is still just a prototype and will remain out of reach for at least half a year. The A7 and Snapdragon 800 are fully functional in tens of millions of devices today.
17. sprockkets (Posts: 1452; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
The current Tegra 4 can match and sometimes exceed the A7 already.
18. Shubham412302 (Posts: 321; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
the one based on a15 will be available 1st half and the one based on denver will be available in second half
33. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)
Denver won't be available for at least a year. Tablets with the A15 Tegra might be on the market sometime around mid-2014.
35. sprockkets (Posts: 1452; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
tegra 4 is a15 already, with the surface 2, tegra note and various transformers using it. K1 is an further updated a15 for less power with the new gpu, and denver is nvidia's first custom made armv8 cores soc.
25. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Tegra K1 is nvidia top chip for 2014. it will compete with apple/qualcomm 2014 chip. but right now there is no real device with such processor available so they need to at least compare it to last year best chip
13. zunaidahmed (Posts: 97; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)
a product that is not even out on the market is useless, tegra 4 was one of the earliest to be announced but it came to the market last, so it's freaking useless. Let's hope tegra K1 doesn't make the same mistake.
14. troutsy (Posts: 287; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
And it's official, the Nexus 5 is now a mid-range device.
22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If you honestly believe that, you should go see a doctor immediately.
24. jellmoo (Posts: 744; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Because of a chip that isn't available, and won't be for 6 months or more? Explain how that works.
50. a_merryman (Posts: 744; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
The version of the chip tested in this article is already available to oems. The product used in this test is a real product that will be going on sale soon. You're thinking of the 64-bit Denver version that will ship in the second half.
That said, the Nexus 5 is still not mid-range by any sense of the word.
26. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Graphics are not that important on these devices, unless all you do is play games.
They should be focused on increased IO speed with the persistent storage. Possibly increasing bus speeds and using DDR3 memory. That will improve overall snappiness.
30. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9339; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I don't think you paid attention to their announcement on the K1.....
32. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
What does that have to do with what I stated?
38. sprockkets (Posts: 1452; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
The fact that they already are using DDR3? Bus speeds are irrelevant with SoCs.
39. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
That you are old and like, prefer 2years old specs.
Live life in the fast lane. Power in reserve won't harm or destroy you.
Game companies have the graphics, but it's the Oems and that are behind in life buy 3 years off Tech.
The A15 has been out for a year know. Oems are finding these CPUs expensive to stock it in there devices. They rely on old A9s yet still in 2014. Lmfao.
These A15s are on par with iNtel i3 chips.... If processed at 18Nm, not 28Nm
42. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Man you guys really aren't that bright when it comes to understanding points being made.
Something should be said about imperceptibility. It's called the law of diminishing returns. If your graphics speed is at a point where you won't notice any major positive gains for your daily workflow, it maybe more worthwhile to invest that R&D in something that will improve the overall experience noticably.
IO speed will be your largest bottleneck when using your devices daily. I.E. opening your phone, launching Gmail, opening YouTube etc. Not 192 GPUs.
Not all smartphones use DDR3 yet, some do but that being a standard will have more of an impact that some silly GPUs.
The major reason why I mentioned this is because, these charts try to make the other processors appear inadequate when in reality they may perform better than the K1 on normal daily usage patterns.
47. renz4 (Posts: 297; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
nvidia improving their mobile graphic is the right thing for them to do. nvidia a is graphic company first before anything else. also they intend to licence this mobile kepler so they must show why it is right to choose their tech over others. one way to show it by showing it's graphical prowess.
27. bucky (Posts: 1626; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Battery vs performance is all I look at for processors. The current crop of chips are plenty fast
45. grahaman27 (Posts: 356; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Tegra k1 has the most efficient GPU... Idk about cpu
28. npaladin2000 (Posts: 159; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Speed isn't everything. I notice they're not bragging about power efficiency or potential battery gains. Which means it might be OK for tablets and embedded devices (SmartTVs running Android maybe, hey, built in game system!) but it's not going to have any impact on Qualcomm's utter dominance of the mobile phone space.
34. c.hack (Posts: 523; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
I had Tegras in my Acer Iconia and 1st gen Nexus 7. They advertise how fast they are but in practice they are slooow. By the time this chip actually rolls out it will be eclipsed by other chips that are also in development.
Tegras over-promise and under-perform.
43. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 258; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Let's hope it's good for real, Haswell-level graphics at ~5W (they say 1.5X perf/Watt VS A7) sounds impressive. It means playing your favorite PC games of 1-2 years ago at low detail on a tablet. OpenGL 4.4, DX11 and CUDA support says it all :)