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Monster quad-core HTC phone with 1080p screen headed to Verizon?

0. phoneArena 12 Jul 2012, 22:37 posted on

Yet another GLBenchmark mystery phone, but this one crushes previous phone scores while packing a True HD screen and is headed for Big Red's network...

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posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:39 12

1. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Um, I would imagine that this would be a tablet... I read somewhere recently that HTC confirmed a Flyer 2, maybe this is it.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:40 5

2. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


oh it sure could!

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:43 13

3. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


there's also that 5" HTC Phablet that was rumored to come to Verizon, maybe this lines up.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:49 14

6. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


The device number doesn't match HTC's tablet numbers, and does match some of their Verizon phone numbers. Also, unless it's a 7" tablet it doesn't make sense that the onscreen buttons would be on the bottom of the device. And with lots of rumors of an upcoming HTC phablet the facts seem to jive more with over-sized phone than tablet.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:58 12

10. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Whatever it is, if it's packing an Adreno 320 it should be Playstation Certified. According to Qualcomm's roadmap, the Adreno 3xx series should be able to render PS3-caliber graphics.

If it is a phablet, I wonder if it will be using LG's recently-unveiled 5" 1080p screen.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:07 11

11. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Given the numbers we're seeing here, I'd say that seems utterly plausible.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 00:42 6

22. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Might be The 1st ever HTC Tab for Verizon

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 04:24 3

31. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


The Soc is the one of the S4 Pro series, either the MSM8960T (dual-core) or the APQ8064 (quad-core).
In the tab of the test, under the "GL Environment" tab you can see the GPU:
GL_RENDERER Adreno (TM) 320

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 04:20 1

30. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


That's what they say, but when I did some actual calculations the Mobile GPUs are still a long way till they get to that level. They don't even match the Wii in GPU power.
So that you make an stimation, only the PoweVR SGX543 MP4 @250 MHz in the iPad is even NEAR the Wii GPU (and still around 30% short)

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 11:29

37. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


yes, because the hz is the only stat that matters.

Most phones are beyond the Wii in graphics capabilities. If this isn't the case, why are 95% of Wii games looking like something from the PS2/Gamecube era? There's a slim few that actually try to do something with its hardware to put out some pretty good visuals like the mario galaxy game, Metroid Other M, Super Bros Brawl, Xenoblade Saga, but most games opt for the same usual crummy graphics.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 12:44

41. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I never said that I was judging the GPU by its MHz, I know that much. I´m basing my opinion (educated, but opinion nevertheless) in the Console-PC graphic card equivalents and the Mobile-PC card benchmark testing.
I was just curios about the claims of the SoCs manufacturers, so did a little study and that´s what I found: still far from PS3 graphs. Such power will have to wait at least two generations of mobile GPUs. End of 2014 or beginning of 2015.
Ah! And the games may look like it, but the Wii GPU is 3 times more powerful than the Xbox and 4 times more than the PS2. Mobile GPUs have just past over the level of those two consoles.

posted on 20 Jul 2012, 13:28

60. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


I don't think they're as far behind as you'd think. Have you seen Infinity Blade 2? Dead Trigger? Shadowgun? They blow away anything on the last gen consoles and the Wii, without question. Infinity Blade 2 utilizes the same engine that Gears of War 3 does. Unreal 3 can't even work on the Wii, Ubisoft tried to use it for Red Steel 2 but they had to just use a modified Unreal 2 engine because it was too much for the Wii to stabilly handle. I still give it a year before we have current gen level graphics, but by then the next gen will be out of course.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 14:39

61. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I have seen those games in the tablets and think they are still some way to the console games. Probaly the difference is in the eye of the beholder.
If you want some links that support my claims:
http://goo.gl/S7ETF
(check the comment " Correction? by ltcommanderdata on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 ")
and here:
http://goo.gl/7sT8H
(check the position of the mobile GPUs, while a Wii would be an ATI Radeon X1400 equivalent, and yes, I also think they are understimating them)
Anyway, we´ll check if I´m right or not after the new Clover Trail and OMAP 5 SoCs go to market this fall, as they use the same GPU and it will be possible to directly compare Windows Benchmarks with Android ones.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 01:46 2

24. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


a phablet it is.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:16 8

13. KParks23 (Posts: 639; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


With that model number its a phone most definitely ... And my next phone bye bye galaxy S3

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:47 6

19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Could be bye-bye RAZR and hello HTC for me as well. I hope HTC follows the form factor and materials they used in the EVO 4G LTE. That is a sweet handset, just limited to Sprint.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 02:43 7

28. KParks23 (Posts: 639; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


HTC and motor are known for excellent build quality and feel... And for me they way the phone feels is one of the most important things and this S3 is a really nice phone so far ill admit it's wayyyyy better than i was expecting but it feels like a cheap piece of plastic

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 06:40

34. vladd100 (Posts: 56; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


or it could be just the new QUATRO..

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:46 12

4. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1237; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


With a screen at 5 inches, the phone would have a ppi count of 418. That'd be insane.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:47 8

5. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


..ly cool.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:51

7. Hammerfest (Posts: 383; Member since: 12 May 2012)


Galaxy Note 2 TYVM...

After the Titan fiasco and continuing issues even after...

Thats an old wound however, I enjoy my Galaxy Note, as long as the Galaxy Note 2 keeps a 16:10 aspect ratio youll find me there as well in the future...

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:53

9. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Can I ask u a question about the Note, do you find it too big to fit in ur pocket or andywhere. Because I'm really leaning into a Note-sized smartphone.

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 22:52

8. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Of course it would go to Verizon . . .

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:17 3

15. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Pisses me off, too! I'm eligible for an upgrade in 3 months & I can tell that this is the phone I've been waiting for (my G2 is looking pretty long in the tooth right now). I really hope T-Mobile gets this or some very close variant of it. I would probably pay more than it's worth...

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:58 3

20. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


It looks like all you're going to get in T-Mobile is the first gen Note, when the new one is just around the corner

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 00:43 1

23. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Buy unlocked is always the better choice

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:16 2

12. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)


verizon??
no thanks...

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 16:47 4

44. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


yea it truly sucks that you cant afford it

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:17 6

14. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


It'll be interesting to see how this stacks up against the LG Eclipse and the Samsung Galaxy Note II, and how well they actually do in the market. Is 5" really going to be the new 4"?

posted on 12 Jul 2012, 23:32 5

16. aayupanday (Posts: 578; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


It's the HTC PHANTOM !!!!

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