Mobile OS comparison: you picked the best platform (poll results)
0. phoneArena 25 Jun 2012, 01:27 posted on
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1. Vorsayo (Posts: 21; Member since: 29 Jan 2012)
Surprised Apple came in last due to iPhone popularity.
39. flipjzn (Posts: 126; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
Don'tbe surprised, only very few iphone users bother to be in sites like this to respond and fight the bashers of.
I don't have iphone but I have an ipad and an Xperia S.
I do wan't to get an iphone or an Sgs3 but it seems like wherever you go theres a fight going on between the two, mostly galaxy users bringing it up, in majority.
75. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
2. roscuthiii (Posts: 1785; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Hey look... that's also probably going to be reflective of the the market share numbers in the next 5 years I'd say.
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5530; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Waiting for the iDevice fans to join the discussion.
5. mas11 (Posts: 1026; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Victor made some pretty good points. In my opinion iOS 6 was very disappointing. It's the same app grid and most of it's "new" features Android has had for a couple years. It would have been nice to see a redesigned UI with new customization options. However WP8 looks great and looks like it will be a strong contender.
6. Tjey007 (Posts: 86; Member since: 22 May 2012)
iOS 6 = I feel shame for you apple..disgrace,
Android 4.0 = Epic as always
WP8 = Finally android got a competitor.
37. HTCFreak (Posts: 149; Member since: 17 Jul 2010)
While we are saying: oh where are the trolls, we are actually the ones who are trolling. What are we saying: oh iSh**p, friggin' trolls! ... What are the apple fans saying: nothing, they just wan't to avoid the conflict.
82. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
*want* not "wan't"...oops sorry, carry on keep trolling :)
99. hepresearch (unregistered)
You just made me remember an episode of "The Simpsons" where there existed such a thing as 'tomacco'... LOL!
8. a_tumiwa (Posts: 217; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
BlackBerry OS and Symbian OS are the best.
18. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Symbian is the best!! It has always had true multitasking (never put any app to sleep); it has always had widgets; it has always been customizable (even S60 can be customized way more than ios 6).
It could do all these and more before the other ones even existed!!
27. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Yes, true insofar as its being resource efficient and still delivering the true multi-tasking plus the first with USB OTG, full file management/access, FM transmitting, customization of themes/wallpapers/tones/fonts/icons/voice navigation, large codec support, offline & online maps, leading edge mobile camera tech, etc.
BUT it lacked a cohesive ecosystem insofar as stalled app growth, a fractured user experience (a montage of disparite services), a crufty UI (until Belle and Belle FP1, which were too late), and subpar PIM management wrt synching and calendar management. It is a measureably more difficult OS to set up for the average user...though once set up it runs great.
Symbian is still an excellent OS, but for a different era. Today, carriers and OEM's are seeing more cloud connected devices. Symbian is a more idependent/converged experience in this respect and does not leverage the cloud as effectively as IOS, Android and WP. But this also means it can be more frugal in terms of operating costs...for this reason I will keep my Symbian phone for int'l travel.
IMHO, Symbian could've continued to remain a major mobile force, but Nokia simply could not afford it anymore. It simply wasn't competitive enough as an OS to maintain its leadership, in terms of both costs and time to market.
102. hepresearch (unregistered)
Good points by both of you... +1 to rnk and Stoli, and +1 to tumiwa for the reminder
10. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2927; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Lol not surprised by this whatsoever. The newest and best Android phones coming out can match IOSs response and smoothness while further advancing multitasking and freedom of making the device your own. Hell even mid range devices are now getting really good. Android has a phone for everyone and clearly it shows.
11. andrew1953 (Posts: 174; Member since: 13 Nov 2011)
I have used Symbian,BlackBerry 6 and 7,and MeeGo. I haven't used Android or iOS. BB was very stable after Symbian which was frustratingly unstable too much of the time. I have to say the most useful and intuitive mobile O/S. I have used on a daily basis is MeeGo. Seamlessly plugs into my car bluetooth system,excellent voice navigation,bedside alarm clock,the lot. Unfortunately Nokia have dumped MeeGo so I'll stick with BBerry and QSXA. If they go bust Android-iOS beautiful but too expensive.
13. a_tumiwa (Posts: 217; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
WOW!!, not so many BB supporter come here...
where is Bada supporter?
107. hepresearch (unregistered)
Yeah, Peter was our token bada supporter here, but he has left last I checked... I miss his remarks. He was a good guy.
12. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 348; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
android can go down in the future due to lack of optimization of source code and updation.windows phone is best in these two services that is optimization of os and updation........it doesnt matter whether ur closed source or open source........so android be careful.................success and failure is not permanent............
24. jdicctv (Posts: 1; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)
i know success and failure is not permanent but android is working hard to maintain his success and try to give best and users friendly os. and change policy according to market not like nokia and apple to stuck in there policies and use same os of years with a slight change.nokia lost its market because it got stuck in its policy and taught no one can take over its market and same will happen with apple.One thing about google that i like the best is they taught the world that company can also earn billions through open market and there policies are flexible according to market.
91. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I agree and heres why I agree. Android allows too many manufacturers to make really crappy android phones. I mean the worst of the worst. People that dont know phones talk about Android like its a product, so they expect a Razr to perform like a flimsy base model. All they care about is owning Android if their impressed by an Android phone. This mean that the base model will probably never update and get left behind rather quickly and its mainly due to the cheap crappy specs that dont support the updates and lack of popularity.
Heres why windows is better. This is from an Android fan... Windows has set a bottom line for specs. So in a sense you can always update if your phone has the specs for it! Android pushes out updates to individual phones. Windows will update all phones that the hardware can support because its like a computer. An old computer can get windows 7 if it meets the requirements for example...
I think thats wayyyyy better and wont leave old phones without updates, thats is if the specs allow them to.
14. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I'm not surprised android won and hears why. Anyone who does polls know where you do polls make a huge difference on your outcome. If you ask people in the south about gay marriage your polls will be alot different then if you asked in the north. So if you ask people on a phone site who are generally more involved with the phone they are going to pick the os which is more involved not the casual user os aka ios. What i am surprised about is wp8 beating out ios 6. But i guess you can chalk that up to the anti-apple bias of this website for whatever reason people cling too. So obviously this poll is flawed that doesn't need to be said and is just a fun thing to do but anyone trying to get make actual observations about this poll few are parrellel to reality. And i'm sure people won't like this post since it will be precieved as pro apple but I just want to clarify it isn't. Its just merely observational.
23. ilia1986 (unregistered)
"if you ask people on a phone site who are generally more involved with the phone they are going to pick the os which is more involved not the casual user os aka ios"
"But i guess you can chalk that up to the anti-apple bias of this website for whatever reason people cling too"
You do realize that the second name of THIS website is iPhoneArena, right?
Bias against Apple? No sir. Every second post in this website has to do with something that relates to Apple. It's a very very very Pro-Apple website.
So yes - that means that the poll results are MORE than valid.
31. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2927; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
EXACTLY! My god try read any article or review that the writer DOESNT mention apple.
32. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
This site being called iphonearena only proves my point and here is why.
This survey was voted on by the readers and who named this site iphonearena? Well the readers of course. And they weren't talking about other readers. Nope they were talking about the writers. The writers are irrelevant though since they aren't the ones voting.
Now who is going to nickname a site iphonearena? Well people who are anti apple of course. So this proves that the large majority of the users here are against apple hence the nickname meant to make fun of any positive news towards apple written by writers. No pro apple readers would call a site iphonearena for mentioning the iphone.
33. ilia1986 (unregistered)
First of all - the writers can also vote.
Second of all - the writers GREATLY affect the readers. Especially the Average Joe who knows shmack about phones and stuff.
Third of all - that's an unbased assumption you're making there - that the majority of people to name PhoneArena - iPhoneArena are against Apple. They could also be iPhone fans who would like to make PhoneArena even more Apple-friendly - seeing as Apple's goal is to take over the mindset of as many people as possible (oh and annihilate freedom of choice from the consumer of course).
36. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Yes writes can vote but they are maybe five writers and this survery accounted for 5000 votes about. That affected the results by .1% I will give you that. Or otherwise an insignificant amount.
Second of all the average joe isn't on a phone site. Thats undeniable. And most people are coming onto this site with preconceived notions about phones and no matter what the writers says aren't going to be affected by them. Not to mention in actuality the writers aren't even pro apple. That nickname appeared from people who are anti-apple getting upset anytime the iphone is not mentioned as the satan of all phones
And your third point can't be serious. I assure you that people who prefer the iphone aren't brainwashed and wan't to force feed you an iphone because they get some satirical pleasure out of it. You will have to take my word.
41. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Sorry. Everyone who wants an iPhone despite being aware of the full potential of Android is either brainwashed, or has very very humble needs.
48. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Ok first of all I am not brainwashed and I choose a iphone over an android. This is after having android phones for a long period of time. Not to say android was bad but for me it was a better choice. It broke down to this for me
A) I don't use flash as I don't watch much video
B) I am not an extreme user of a cellphone (use 1gb of data a month) so things like personalization I consider tedious. Changing the background is really all I need along with the ability to rearrange my apps.
C) I have navigation in my car so google maps doesn't appeal to me.
D) I like a phone thats smaller with a small width to fit in my pocket better.
E) I need a solid day of battery life something not every android phone can offer.
F) The first thing I do with my android phones is delete all widgets I don't like them so that wasn't anything important to me either.
G) I love the app store the market (play store( is fine but I got tired with things like waiting for temple run which is on the iphone long before it got on android.
So fine the power users android may be better but there are very legitmate reasons why people may choose an iphone and that not because they are brainwashed or have humble needs. My needs aren't humble as I demand a very premium phone that is intuitive, beautiful, and works extremely well.
54. ilia1986 (unregistered)
A, B, C, F point out you have humble needs.
D and E are irrelevant - There are a lot of smaller Android phones than the iPhone - and if Battery is your concern - the Motorola Razr MAXX got you covered there.
G is no longer such a concern. Yes, there are exclusive iOS apps. However there are also exclusive Android apps. The important stuff is 99% of the time available on both.
Your need for a premium phone that is intuitive, beautiful, and works extremely well can be satisfied with almost any high-end Android phone. Moto Razr, SGS2, SGS3, HTC Sensation series, HTC one X, one S, LG Optimus 4X, Sony Xperia S and the list goes on and on and on.
59. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Well just because some things are unnecessary to me doesn't make my needs humble. And the fact other phones meet may meet my needs is unimportant since we both can agree upon all the phones you mentioned run android which is good for power users.
The razr maxx is too wide for me. I love it but it doesn't have both D and E something which I need. Meeting one need isn't enough.
G is still most defintly a concern things still come out faster on ios. Not as much as in the past but bigger then you make it out to be.
In android on verizon try to come up with one phone that is small (width wise), great battery life, tons of content, and has a great design. I can't think of any besides the iphone. My needs aren't humble only 1 phone fits it completely.
61. ilia1986 (unregistered)
"Well just because some things are unnecessary to me doesn't make my needs humble"
Yes it does.
And Android is not just for power users. It's for everyone.
Things also come faster for Android than for iOS. It depends what you're looking at.
I don't do carriers. Sorry. The fact that the US cellphone market still depends on carrier subsidies to get a phone screws the whole thing over (which also explains why iPhone us much more popular in the US than around the world).
63. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
This is an american based website.and my needs obviously aren't humble if a majority of phones don't meet them.
65. ilia1986 (unregistered)
This is an internet website - it has users from all over the world. America is just part of that world.
As I said - plenty of small-sized Android phones with good battery life out there. All you gotta do is just choose.
68. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Not with a good design too. All smaller sized android phones are budget based. They don't give those phones a premium design.
And this website is usa based.
70. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Taste in design is a subjective matter. Besides - if you truly care about your phone - you will rarely see it - since it'l be inside a protective case. Especially the fragile iPhone.
The SERVER of this website may be in USA. It doesn't really matter. This website is about phones globally. Not just in the US. So is the community.
104. hepresearch (unregistered)
Take a look at the Samsung Illusion for Verizon... I looked into that one for a while. Very nicely-styled and compact (3.5" curved-glass screen) design running Gingerbread on a 1GHz Hummingbird (NOT the evil [Cr]apdragon from Qualcomm, thankfully) processor and 512 MB of RAM. Battery life on 1xRTT is rated at 5.5 hours (talk time), which ought to get you through a full day without any issues if your usage is as you say it is. It is low-cost ($329.99 MSRP, free on contract), has better-than-decent features for being so inexpensive, and actually seems to run very well and smoothly in practice. It is a clear big-step-up from similarly priced Android models from Huawei, ZTE, LG, and others, and does not go after the typical 4"+ screen size that so many other OEM's treat like 'the best thing since sliced bread'. In the end, I could not afford to get my own Verizon plan, and my folks refuse to switch from AT&T, so I never got one... but if that would work for you, it might be worth your time to take a look.
76. roscuthiii (Posts: 1785; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Just a small interjection about the Razr Maxx... you said it doesn't meet your criteria because it lacks both D & E of your list.
Well, D is a valid point. It is wide. But even as wide as it is it works for me and I have tiny carny hands that would give Austin Powers the willies.
And E?! Perhaps you didn't mean the Maxx or you meant another point, since that one is about battery life and Razr Maxx has about the best battery life there is. Mine is on the charger only 2-3 times a week.
77. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Just wanted to chime in as an Android user and say that I agree this survey is meaningless. It's a closed ecosystem, where the majority don't use iOS.
Also, it's nice to see well thought out reasons for your purchase. It makes sense you'd go for the iPhone, all your reasons are valid. What's important to one is meaningless to another. There are all kinds of reasons to go with any of the three platforms.
34. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2927; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Sounds like you're just mad that Apple lost and lost by a long shot. We live in different times now 2007 is long gone and it's androids era. Apple is constantly playing pick up, most of what 6.0 is stuff android 2.2 could do 2 years ago lol
You just gotta accept that people like android better, there's no conspiracy behind it like you are so convinced of.
40. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
First of all I don't care what others use. I am merely pointing out the flaws in a survey. I say go ahead and use what works best for you I couldn't care less.
I don't think there is a conspiracy afoot but there is a logical reasoning why the results came out as they did which I outlined very clearly. You can argue those points if you want but everything else is irrelevant if you ask me.
85. vslayer (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
LETS see on how windows phone 8 will compete with apple and android here but from my point of view windows phone 8 will be the phone the the future ...why
1.integrated apps . (this is done is the other OS but windows phone is better this category)
2 shared kernel. - it will maybe an underdog in number of apps but i think now i think windows phone is ready to compete with two giants
3.functionality - the others may like to allow deep customizations or the phone or the native IOS UI but in windows phone u may find it boring but its simple and inituitive way .. its go in and out and its there....
4 better updates...- damn its microsoft there is no way that MS will not be supporting your phone in the future ..it may be not good for me as the windows 7.5 users coz the next version of windows phone runs in diff kernel . but im happy with the WP7.8 annoucement ..its worth it anyway my 2 year old phone has come to an end ....
97. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
There's no conspiracy. It's just that this website is dominated by android trolls. Open any Apple article and read Apple bashing after Apple bashing comment. No surprise how the survey turned out.
29. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2927; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Lol I get your point but there are several annoying apple fansboys that infest this website daily. This is PHONEARENA not ANDROIDARENA. Hell people have called it IPHONEARENA several times. If this poll was done on ANDROIDCENTAL you would be dead on. But this website is based on all OS platforms so so are its viewers. It just happens people think android os is better and more popular than ever.
35. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I know they are pro apple readers on this website but they are the minority. While this website covers all os's there is a large portion of the readership who are against apple. No matter what ios 6 contained wouldn't have voted for ios. This severely slanted the data. That along with people who like ios are also less likely to be on a phone site in general. Ios hallmark is simplicity not something people who are reading about the processor of a phone is likely to care about.Not to mention people don't like apple because of lawsuits/foxconn which all shouldn't have factored into this but undoubtedly did.
79. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The site itself is dedicated to all platforms, but the readership is heavily anti Apple. I mean, look at taco. Yes, he's a troll, but even when he makes an innocuous comment, he gets a ton of thumbs down. I'm not saying he doesn't bring it on himself.
All this poll proves is that the readership here strongly prefer Android and WP to iOS. It has no application beyond these walls.
96. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Good comment Ted. Unbiased for once.
101. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I'm never biased, your bias makes the truth
108. hepresearch (unregistered)
"Good comment Ted. Unbiased..."
I'll ignore the last two words, and give you a thumbs-up for complementing another poster you normally disagree with... good job, taco. Just giving some credit where credit is due... for those who are wondering, with their jaw agape, I'll just say that rewards always work better than punishments. +1
109. hepresearch (unregistered)
I agree, ted. When people just wait for somebody they don't like to comment so they can thumb them down, regardless of whatever they just said, that just gets unbelievably childish in a hurry and raises tensions for everyone. Taco is at the top of that list for a lot of folks here, regardless of whether they are Android fanboys or not, but mostly Android fanboys. Yes, taco tries to get away with saying some really dumb crap, but when he says something reasonable I would hope that reasonable people can reward him by giving him thumbs-up, or at least by NOT thumbing him down. People learn behaviors through various motivations, and rewards are a very effective motivator for someone who is used to being punished all the time. Taco is capable of being reasonable if and when he wants to be. I know he is capable, and he deserves just as much of a chance as any of us to be rewarded for educating himself and changing his behavior for the better over time.
Beyond that, yes, it is quite clear that iOS is disproportionately under-represented here. If this poll were taken from the general public today, it would probably be closer to 20 or 25% for iOS. At least double the rate here...
110. hepresearch (unregistered)
Come to think of it...
see comments #204 and 205...
Perhaps the users here are much more heavily skewed to the "power user" demographic, and there are a few "social users" here, as well. The power users are the folks who are here because of their interest in mobile development, and the social users are largely here because they think it is just cool and hip to be in here. It seems logical to me that "social users" would probably have a higher proclivity to being "fanboys" or "trolls" than "power users" would. So, perhaps this survey could actually be telling us something more like "that only one in ten 'power users' prefers an iPhone"?
I doubt that we have any "convenience users" here... how 'convenient' is it to come onto this forum and comment or vote, rather than to just spend their time doing other more convenient things? I also doubt that there are very many "conscientious users" here... they are less likely to care about their phone choice outside of the store where they are buying it, and outside of their wallet.
87. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1551; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Someones just mad iOS lost to WP lol. FYI ANY poll is going to be flawed, there's just too many variables. One thing for sure if your choice had won, you wouldn't be bitching about how "unfair" this poll is... smh
16. djripster (Posts: 118; Member since: 10 Dec 2011)
Wow, and here I was thinking Apple will dominate...
I guess Apple users dont spend much time taking surveys :)
That being, I am really impressed with Windows Phone, now what I am wondering is how many of those votes are from current WP7 users... I wonder if they know they wont recevie a WP8 update and will stay stuck with WP7.8
17. AbhiD (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
All this means that WP8 market will grow completely at the expense of iOS(very soon apple's iOA$$ is gonna be kicked hard)
Android will continue to be the LEADER....................!!!
22. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I disagree and hears is why
A)survey is pointless (see my post above)
B)ios users are the most satisfied so why would a mass exodus happen
C) ios 6 might have more features then what is currently known (siri was added later on for ios 5)
D) wp8 has a big learning curve from ios and ios users don't seem to be the type to tinker and wan't to learn a new os.
E) undoubtly people based there opinion on hardware and very soon apple is coming out with new hardware.
F) the site readership is anti apple biased. Writers are very neutral.
G) ios is established so nothing huge will happen with marketshare overnight. Plus they are about profits over marketshare unlike android.
H) the tablets are going for a pc like experience on wp similar to android not on alternative like apple making them competing for the same crowd
I) and so on...
43. TylerGrunter (Posts: 864; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Blindness is sometimes an art really...
A) Survey is not pointless, in this site most people are android funs cause power users that actually care about technology like to customize their phones to be more productive. So it actually shows that power users prefer Android. Not surprising but not pointless.
B) So you see the flaws in this survey but you don't see the flaws in the satisfaction surversy? Pure ifan blidness! If you want I can tell what they and why those surveys are even more usless than this one.
C) All 200 features were a bit dissapointing, that's reallity, your point is just wishful thinking...
D) Windows has a very low learning curve, much less so than Android. Not seeing that is just again your blidness. Have you ever even used a W7 phone? They are quite intuitive.
E) When they come they will be surpased again soon, that's the nature of this business.
F) Fully agree on that, but it's not anti-apple, it's just pro-technology and freedom. Same thing with positive words ;)
G) Fully agree on that one... Sad for the world and consumers that Apple has brainwashed so many, but true.
H) Says who? It's clear that we'll see a convergence in PC and tablet market, so this means that Android and (expecially) Windows are ahead on the game.
I) And so on... (I love this one, it says so much "sarcasm intended")