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Mobile OS comparison: Windows Phone 8 vs iOS 6.0 vs Android 4.1

0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2012, 15:19 posted on

Microsoft's Windows Phone was met with rave reviews from day one of its launch back in late 2010, but despite its beautiful and smooth UI it hasn't caught up with users. One way or another, part of the blame for this was some immaturity of the platform - multitasking arrived later...

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posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:20

169. hepresearch (unregistered)

On the browser... yeah, I'll give you that. It was almost as bad as BlackBerry's browser, and after all, they were both WebKit-based back then (at least on S60 3rd Edition and BB 4/5.x). Now, I did not dislike the stock browser, but it did have its downfalls, and I always downloaded the latest Opera browser to use in parallel when I needed a feature that the stock browser did not offer (although, to be fair, there were some things that the stock browser did that Opera did not do, and some things that the stock browser even rendered better than Opera... if you waited for it).

As for the email client... yes, it was complicated as all get out... but it was insanely powerful! That client was a diamond in the rough for people like me, who needed to be able to handle extremely complex email tasks on proprietary servers, especially since Nokia support could help me set the thing up remotely. I could do anything that anyone on a PC with MS Outlook could do in terms of security/SSL, server-encryption, specifying ports, etc... all the complicated stuff that no one likes to deal with. Unfortunately, that complexity spread to the non-complicated end of email, such as setting up a gmail account or a yahoo account, or even an aol-messaging account... which was sort of stupid. But it was perfect for my purposes, and immensely powerful.

I totally agree... Symbian was amazing for its day, the time of classical smartphones which were mostly intended to keep you connected with enterprise features, help you organize your entire life and schedule, let you carry your documents and read (and even edit) them or share them (can't tell you how many times I have used IrDA or Bluetooth to work an in-house projector at a physics research conference to do presentations... from the phone!!! at universites across the country), and even code my own programs on-the-go with a C++ compiler ON MY PHONE (usable on the phone immediately after compiling and signing...), which I could then port to a C++ compiler ON A PC (... and then use on the PC immediately after compiling, too)! Symbian was amazing, and in order to get the current family of post-classic smartphones, OS-makers had to blast the multimedia capabilities (and the retail prices) into the stratosphere while dumbing down the functions of the devices that were most vital to my work.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:35

170. hepresearch (unregistered)

Furthermore, I heard a lot of complaints that Symbian was just as bad and glitchy as WinMo... and this is just plain rediculous (well, there were a few devices that were duds, but for the most part Nokia made amazing devices). I had a T-Mobile Dash by HTC (200 MHz OMAP processor), and it would crash at least once every other day. It was sluggish most of the time, and if I happened to be working on a spreadsheet at the same time that someone tried to call me, then the phone would ring but could not be answered, and then the ringing would go to max volume as I would try to muffle the thing and turn it off, but it would not stop ringing... and I could only silence it once I had pulled out the battery. For me there is simply no comparison there. Series 80 (Nokia 9300... 150 MHz OMAP processor) would only crash if I left it on for almost two months without turning the phone off, and with all of my usage it never seemed to struggle too much (it lagged a little when under strain, but always got the job done in a timely manner). Even when it did crash, it did not crash so hopelessly as to require a battery pull... if left alone for 15 minutes, it would recover itself and I could keep right on going where I left off. S60 3rd Edition was even better, and I never had a problem with lag, or sluggishness, or crashing... ever! My N75 and E75 were absolute joys to own!

Don't forget that it will now take all Android OEM's about three more years at their current sales pace to outsell all of the Symbian phones ever sold since their debut back in 2000...

posted on 22 Jun 2012, 09:11

189. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

if it's so advanced why NOKIA killed it? And lay off their hard workers that put it together

posted on 23 Jun 2012, 11:11

190. hepresearch (unregistered)

Because it makes less money than Android devices or iPhones... and unfortunately, WP Lumias made even less money for Nokia than any Symbian device sales ever did...

So, while Nokia Symbian devices often represented a great value... a lot of phone for less money (which made less profit for Nokia per unit over time) in their day... they also represented a 'terrible user experience' for the average 'new smartphone acquirer' after the advent of the iPhone (2007), Android (2008), and others.

People liked capacitive touchscreens and simplicity when they arrived on smartphones, and although older classic Symbian smartphones were very powerful, and still are, they're still way too complex for most people to have an intuitive experience with, unlike the very fluid and elegant experience they would have on an Android, iPhone, or WP device. And these days, intuitive convenience and simplicity are what REALLY sell...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:38

10. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I understood from the presentation that WP8 does offer true multitasking, and zengadget is stating the same

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 13:29

184. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

i actually heard that from a few places too… i am not sure if they directly mentioned it in the pres which way there were going

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:39

11. rwrife (Posts: 32; Member since: 25 Sep 2009)

You can side load apps on Windows Phone.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:39 8

12. Carlitos (Posts: 533; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

Didnt Google announce, that Maps will be updated and support offline maps?

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 13:29

185. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

eventually… right now u can download offline maps, but they do not come already like that

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:42 10

16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5712; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

i like both Android 4.0 and WP8 but Android is just so much more useful so i chose it. o:

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:31 6

74. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Smaaaaaart Boy.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:59 1

58. hepresearch (unregistered)

True, but I still find it sad that the more open-source something is these days, the more likely it seems to be that it dies off in favor of less-open or walled-garden OS/ecosystem projects.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:09 3

35. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Sure, when you jailbreak an iPhone, you get so much more features. Flash, springboard improvements, it just goes on. Just like android. Wp is a great os, bit it limited just like iOS.
I have an android and I think they are great.

What exactlly do you want me to explain?

Pure stats don't tell you everything. Example: android almost has the same # of apps as iOS, but the actual quality (remember this is my opinion) of iOS apps surpass that of android apps. Compare many gameloft and EA games, along with other apps and you shall see.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:42 1

17. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Jailbroken iOS > android 4 > WP8 > WP 7.8 > iOS

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:45 5

86. APPLE_R0YALLY (banned) (Posts: 73; Member since: 08 May 2012)

Cookie monster™ sessame street.

®Like that™…… ©

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:49 1

21. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

Reasons pls? We work with facts here, so can u elaborate?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:59 6

29. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

HOW do you figure. Android is the ultimate in custom ROMS & development. Jailbroken iOS is NOT EVEN CLOSE to Android's root community.

-1 for you panda bear!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:12 7

38. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Ummm... Jailbroken iOS = unstable Android 4.0.

Android 4.0 > Jailbroken iOS > WP8 > WP 7.8 > iOS

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:14 5

41. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

I'm sorry you don't agree with my opinion.

Do you want a cookie?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:25 3

47. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

With that kind of answer, no wonder panda's are endangered.

Why jailbreak the tiny iPhone just to have it then become an Android device? Why not just root a superior device like a Samsung Galaxy S III or a HTC One X? Shoot you don't even need to root those phones, they do more STOCK than a jailbroken iPhone could ever do.

& no thank you, panda's don't eat cookies they eat bamboo so please offer bamboo instead. If you are trying to be polite that is.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:27 3

49. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

this is more accurate... lol

theres no contest when you can download ANY file you want on your android handset and transfer it seamlessly to a PC or another android device... as well as being able to play (video) any file format over the browser... that is my opinion to android's lead.

iOS wins due to the quality and fullness of whats available... it might be a small amount of features but those features are well thought out and polished perfectly...

i just can't wait for WP8 to gain some steam... it'll replace android i'm sure...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:28 4

50. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Thank you. Android 4.0 is very stable, but a jailbroken iOS would be as stable as a ball in a California earthquake.


posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:34 2

52. hepresearch (unregistered)

Actually... my personal opinion, supported by my own experiences and those of contacts, is that Symbian WAS the ultimate in custom ROMming, but everybody bought the idea that Android IS the ultimate open source, when it is neither the OG open source, nor the ultimate. What happened with Android is that they made a better mechanism for organizing and making money for developers and development, where in Symbian it was totally happy-go-lucky, but I developed for Symbian a-plenty, and there were always plenty of apps for Symbian (just always placed at third-party sites, and managed by 'signatures' after the first attempt to standardize things, until the Ovi Store emerged). I never went without apps for my desires and needs, and if I couldn't find something for my proprietary purposes then I made one myself. It was simple... C++, Java, and then, later, Qt. Android just cleaned up that process and marketed it as an ecosystem project, called it open source when it is not really nearly as open to begin with, and popularized it with wanna-be nerds and not just the OG nerd-geek crowd that I was a part of in the early days.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:41 2

53. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Sorry I didn't mean to thumb you down. My fat finger got in the way. lol

You are right about Symbian, but that OS is dead with no more support. I was talking about today & right now. Android is clearly the leader in custom ROMS & development.

A lot of OEM's are using stuff from the CM team in their custom skins, so the Android root community is making an impact on both Google & the OEM's on the software side of things.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:45 3

55. SiDroid (Posts: 4; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)

I've long debated the Android vs jail broken iOS war. I chose Android due to the hardware capabilities, and the increased stability of Android hacking and modding. However, for those who like the hardware and incredibly high quality ecosystem, like yourself, I think jail broken iOS can easily stand its ground against a rooted Android.
And ignore the hating fandroids. We're not all like that.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:04 1

59. hepresearch (unregistered)

No surprise there... you take the OEM limits off of something like iOS 5 or 6, and suddenly you are left with something trying to do Android-2.3-or-4.0-level function-crunching on Apple's 1 or 1.2 GHz dual-core processors or less.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:38 3

81. hepresearch (unregistered)

I just like nnaatthhaannx2's response... "Do you want a cookie?" I think it is hilarious, and next time somebody comes after me for a total opinion, I just might ask that...

And yeah, this might tick off a bunch of people here, but +1 anyway...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:07 2

63. hepresearch (unregistered)

Okay, I failed to edit in time...

I meant "... Android-2.3-or-4.0-level function-crunching PLUS expedited graphics..."

It is just a little overwhelming on mediochre hardware processing power, don't ya think?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 18:53

114. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

....... and sometimes we stumble upon completely clueless one here on phonearena....

Please, stick to articles written by Ray S. They are more appropriate for your level of intelligence.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:22 1

66. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)

the answer to your question because a jailbroken Apple device is an Android with the support from Apple, Apple are well built devices

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