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Mobile OS comparison: Windows Phone 8 vs iOS 6.0 vs Android 4.1

0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2012, 15:19 posted on

Microsoft's Windows Phone was met with rave reviews from day one of its launch back in late 2010, but despite its beautiful and smooth UI it hasn't caught up with users. One way or another, part of the blame for this was some immaturity of the platform - multitasking arrived later...

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posted on 21 Jun 2012, 10:19 1

177. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

No need to call names... You can correct someone without being rude, you know?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:30 24

3. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

What about USB hosting/peripherals support?

Android is untouchable, a true open source, completely flexible OS, with the potential that is just starting to unfold.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:31 21

4. Victor.H (Posts: 686; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Absolutely, point taken, will add it later to the comparison!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 21:24 3

141. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)

Yeah also why can features of a jailbroken iPhone be considered for one of ios6 features (cydia)..

Because one could say that ios6also has widgets due to cydia and that all Android phones have extra capabilities if they root.

It just doesn't make sense that you would add a jailbroken feature to just one of the options. Isn't it either all or nothing..

The fair thing to do would be to compare "stock" operating systems

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 02:19

158. Victor.H (Posts: 686; Member since: 27 May 2011)

It's rather whether the OS allows some relatively easy way to sideload apps or not. This could be important for users who want to install app off the offical marketplace.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 13:24

183. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

not really.. jailbreaking is often no harder than clicking an app on ur computer.. or used to be just going to a site on safari.. idk how complicated it is to root but jailbreaking is so easy and unlocks the iphone to a world of customization and such

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 22:40

186. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)

I understand and it's a fair decision you have made. But then you have lost your warranty if you jailbreak so that's just what gets me about the addition of Cydia being there.

Root is as simple as connecting to the computer and using a one click method for a majority of android phones I have rooted. (Some even have an application that you can load onto your phone and do it without a computer)

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:52 10

23. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

Agreed. It's open source nature allows so much more possibility then it's close minded competition.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:35 28

5. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I beg to differ on offline maps. In the Labs section of Google Maps, you can save a map and route for later. Granted, it won't be live with traffic or anything, but it's offline and on a free app that comes with the phone.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:38 5

9. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)

Thanks, Sniggly. I had always wondered about that, but just now learned about it.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:24 8

67. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

Wow, a lot of people are going around thumbing down everything. This comment basically says "thanks" and has two thumbs downs.
Guess Taco and Gallitoking are angry that iOS got dead last and are going around thumbing down every last comment with their 20 different accounts. Lol.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 00:17 2

150. jroc74 (Posts: 6018; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Its just ppl that have no life basically. There are some things I dont agree with in different articles....but I dont thumb down just because.

But thumbing down someone saying thanks?? wow....lets you know the mindset of some folks. I say as long as they post less....thumb down til your hearts content...would rather see the red thumbs than the craziness that flows from some folks.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:41 8

14. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4880; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Damn Sniggly I was going to say that! lol +1 my friend!

Android is still the most robust OS, but WP8 just leaped froged iOS6 big time.

I must admit this is one hell of an update to the WP platform. WP fans should have lots to be happy about. Well, well there goes my brothers first text about WP8. Yes he is the ULTIMATE WP fan! lol

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:46 4

18. snotyak (Posts: 27; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)

I was also going to mention this!!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:11 7

37. remixfa (Posts: 14263; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

good catch .. ya beat us all to it.

also the peripheral connection is not Needed on android since it allows direct access to the memory when plugged into the computer. the way that category is set up it looks like a negative for android when its really a positive since its universal and doesn't need a program

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 02:21

159. Victor.H (Posts: 686; Member since: 27 May 2011)

It's actually meant to be positive, will see if I can change the definition!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 21:14 2

139. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)

Yea plenty of FREE apps for offline maps.
I use Locus Free and I can select and area of the world I want with any of the major map providers (Google maps, open street maps, ovi maps, etc) and also select the zoom level of detail I want the map to be in.

So if I don't want to fill my SD card with map data for any reason I can just get either just the closet level of zoom or only a couple levels of zoom.

Also you can activate your GPS and it pinpoints your location and shows you where you are on the map and this is all offline provided you have downloaded maps.

All Offline.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:36 16

6. sarb009 (Posts: 311; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Long live flexible Android ftw.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:36 19

8. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

lets all b honest here, im an iPhone 4 and Galaxy tab 10.1 user. So Im not a fan boy of any operating system, I want tosee all of them improving, but let the thruth be told. Android is the most Advanced Mobile Operating System, not iOS, unless if I dont kno d meaning of Ă„DVANCED"

Honestly speaking, lets put fanboyism aside and just b honest. Androidis the ish!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:41 6

13. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I agree with a caveat. Symbian is arguably as (if not more) advanced than ICS. It isn't as flashy or have as many apps, but they both offer comparable levels of capabilities

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:53 2

24. hepresearch (unregistered)

Symbian is just as advanced, but is more mature and clean, and more stable over time. Also, the Symbian kernel EKA 2 is still alot smaller, and I can manage Symbian to my own liking by making coding changes to the platform itself for my own personal custom ROM for flashing onto my device. Symbian was complicated and people complained, but I could do ANYTHING with Symbian because it allowed me those freedoms that no other platform ever has before, or ever will again. Even Android 4.0 is not that free... even CyanogenMod 9 is not that free... S60 5th was a terrible departure, and S^3, although much feature-richer, was not a complete recovery back to the near perfection of S60 3rd customization and raw power-for-value. I may be a little sore about Symbian's death for a while, but that is because I will legitimately miss it.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:19 3

123. MartyK (Posts: 853; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

Not knocking Symbian (never had one), but if Symbian was this wonderful, why did Nokia dump it?, what was so bad about the operating system that it died out?, just curious.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:48 3

128. hepresearch (unregistered)

Two words... complexity, and plainness. Most people who got a Symbian device just to be a smartphone early adopter or a fanboy complained that it was as miserable as Windows Mobile to use... it was equally complicated, and the file/menu system pretty much drove the entire device experience (which people who just wanted it as a phone hated); however, it was quite a bit more stable, and as processing power improved between 2005 and 2008 the stability improved as well with the release of S60 3rd Edition UI, at least on Nokia's end... I can't comment on how things were for Symbian UIQ users on Sony Ericsson devices. Unfortunately, from about 2008 to 2010, S60 3rd became stagnant and the N96 (supposed to replace the N95) was released with a seriously sub-par processor that hobbled the device. They also introduced S60 5th Edition, which also incorporated elements of UIQ and Series 80/90 all wrapped into one Symbian-based UI system... and it was a total disaster because Nokia was so set on resistive touch technology, and on PC-like ideas like double-clicking, and went out of their way to avoid being like iOS altogether... and that really killed them. When S^3 came out in 2010-2011, Nokia's Symbian was already cooked pretty bad even with the improved UI, new eye-candy, and capacitive touch tech in tow, and they had to make up for lost ground. They also had a problem of EKA 2 being limited to nHD displays (640 x 360). Perhaps they could have kept going, and continued to change to meet the demands of our time, but at some point someone decided that this was too expensive now, the decision was made, and they announced the transition to WP in February of 2011. Nokia was still the world leader in smartphone sales and total revenue when the announcement was made, and after only a year they had ceded those roles to Samsung and Apple (respectively)... went from comfortably in the #1 slot by a good margin to #3 and diving fast in just one year. It was very badly managed, basically to the point that it looks like intentional collusion was required to injure Nokia so badly this past year, and they made everyone wait for WP devices for eight months while still ramping down Symbian device production and sales. Now Nokia is essentially on a death watch...

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 02:34 2

160. Victor.H (Posts: 686; Member since: 27 May 2011)

All good and fair points, also I'd add that while outdated visuals are often said to be the main reason for Symbian's demise, other platforms like Android and iOS gave a huge boost to browsing and stressed the ease of going online. Symbian, in contrast, had - until its very latest days with Anna/Belle - a terrible browser.

Not only that, it seemed to have an overly complicated mail client with an interface straight out of a horror movie, that would almost always put the average user in dire straits for just the email setup.

But when it comes to purely phone-related functions Symbian offered more variety and was in many ways superior to the other OSs.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:20

169. hepresearch (unregistered)

On the browser... yeah, I'll give you that. It was almost as bad as BlackBerry's browser, and after all, they were both WebKit-based back then (at least on S60 3rd Edition and BB 4/5.x). Now, I did not dislike the stock browser, but it did have its downfalls, and I always downloaded the latest Opera browser to use in parallel when I needed a feature that the stock browser did not offer (although, to be fair, there were some things that the stock browser did that Opera did not do, and some things that the stock browser even rendered better than Opera... if you waited for it).

As for the email client... yes, it was complicated as all get out... but it was insanely powerful! That client was a diamond in the rough for people like me, who needed to be able to handle extremely complex email tasks on proprietary servers, especially since Nokia support could help me set the thing up remotely. I could do anything that anyone on a PC with MS Outlook could do in terms of security/SSL, server-encryption, specifying ports, etc... all the complicated stuff that no one likes to deal with. Unfortunately, that complexity spread to the non-complicated end of email, such as setting up a gmail account or a yahoo account, or even an aol-messaging account... which was sort of stupid. But it was perfect for my purposes, and immensely powerful.

I totally agree... Symbian was amazing for its day, the time of classical smartphones which were mostly intended to keep you connected with enterprise features, help you organize your entire life and schedule, let you carry your documents and read (and even edit) them or share them (can't tell you how many times I have used IrDA or Bluetooth to work an in-house projector at a physics research conference to do presentations... from the phone!!! at universites across the country), and even code my own programs on-the-go with a C++ compiler ON MY PHONE (usable on the phone immediately after compiling and signing...), which I could then port to a C++ compiler ON A PC (... and then use on the PC immediately after compiling, too)! Symbian was amazing, and in order to get the current family of post-classic smartphones, OS-makers had to blast the multimedia capabilities (and the retail prices) into the stratosphere while dumbing down the functions of the devices that were most vital to my work.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:35

170. hepresearch (unregistered)

Furthermore, I heard a lot of complaints that Symbian was just as bad and glitchy as WinMo... and this is just plain rediculous (well, there were a few devices that were duds, but for the most part Nokia made amazing devices). I had a T-Mobile Dash by HTC (200 MHz OMAP processor), and it would crash at least once every other day. It was sluggish most of the time, and if I happened to be working on a spreadsheet at the same time that someone tried to call me, then the phone would ring but could not be answered, and then the ringing would go to max volume as I would try to muffle the thing and turn it off, but it would not stop ringing... and I could only silence it once I had pulled out the battery. For me there is simply no comparison there. Series 80 (Nokia 9300... 150 MHz OMAP processor) would only crash if I left it on for almost two months without turning the phone off, and with all of my usage it never seemed to struggle too much (it lagged a little when under strain, but always got the job done in a timely manner). Even when it did crash, it did not crash so hopelessly as to require a battery pull... if left alone for 15 minutes, it would recover itself and I could keep right on going where I left off. S60 3rd Edition was even better, and I never had a problem with lag, or sluggishness, or crashing... ever! My N75 and E75 were absolute joys to own!

Don't forget that it will now take all Android OEM's about three more years at their current sales pace to outsell all of the Symbian phones ever sold since their debut back in 2000...

posted on 22 Jun 2012, 09:11

189. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

if it's so advanced why NOKIA killed it? And lay off their hard workers that put it together

posted on 23 Jun 2012, 11:11

190. hepresearch (unregistered)

Because it makes less money than Android devices or iPhones... and unfortunately, WP Lumias made even less money for Nokia than any Symbian device sales ever did...

So, while Nokia Symbian devices often represented a great value... a lot of phone for less money (which made less profit for Nokia per unit over time) in their day... they also represented a 'terrible user experience' for the average 'new smartphone acquirer' after the advent of the iPhone (2007), Android (2008), and others.

People liked capacitive touchscreens and simplicity when they arrived on smartphones, and although older classic Symbian smartphones were very powerful, and still are, they're still way too complex for most people to have an intuitive experience with, unlike the very fluid and elegant experience they would have on an Android, iPhone, or WP device. And these days, intuitive convenience and simplicity are what REALLY sell...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:47 2

19. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

And I am sure ther wil b more stuff for 4.1

Its a good thing when other platforms perform well, it pushes other OS to their limits, which benefits us the consumers and innovation improves the way we use of gadgets.

If only Apple could give me all that iOS 6.0 offers, since im not holdinng 4S. Sucks

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:08 5

34. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

dude why dont you just get an android phone man...lol

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