Mobile OS comparison: Windows Phone 8 vs iOS 6.0 vs Android 4.1
0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2012, 15:19 posted on
Microsoft's Windows Phone was met with rave reviews from day one of its launch back in late 2010, but despite its beautiful and smooth UI it hasn't caught up with users. One way or another, part of the blame for this was some immaturity of the platform - multitasking arrived later...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
25. bigdawg23 (Posts: 446; Member since: 25 May 2011)
People with Smartphone are on the going most of the time. You need to keep several different documents and also download them from Websites. I can do this with my Android but very very limited with iOS. With an app like Docs to Go you can keep MS documents and PDF's but that's it. At times I have a zip file to send to people with several documents. iOS doesn't allow for that. Also I get sent links from customers to download a file from a Website. Also that is not available on iOS.
Allowing a person to browse files doesn't hurt anything.
30. hepresearch (unregistered)
Android 4.0, having a real file browser, is now the only legit system left for me. I simply cannot function on a device where I am prevented from global file management and folder organization, although Windows 8 or RT will probably be more in line with my needs and budget than a Mac when I go to replace my old PC. Of course, I suppose I could let go of such needs on a future mobile device, but it would still annoy me to no end to be unable to micro-manage my own files on any device...
36. hepresearch (unregistered)
Furthermore, even Symbian had a great Windows-like file manager, and it was quite powerful and useful... and then people complained that they hated the folders and menus in S60... none of the new devices can do with file management what S60 3rd could even five years ago, and I am not really all that much of a fan of Android, either. iOS is simply insufficient and too expensive, Android is too raw and buggy for me in my **potential** budget range, and Windows 8/RT/Phone 8 is not much better than iOS, except in terms of interoperability and compatibility, and is probably going to be at the higher end of my **potential** affordability range. It is just a little frustrating...
130. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
why are we all thumbing that down
symbian is actually really really really advanced I used to have one
If nokia had a strong precense in the US and a lot of people were using it I would still be using it
167. hepresearch (unregistered)
Pretty much these days... sold all of my smartphone collection, and some other collected feature phones I still had, when I filed for bankruptcy last year, so now I use the phone I pulled out of my parents' junk pile... a Sony Ericsson Z300a. Now I have no money to buy anything new, and neither do my parents. If I can get a job, perhaps I will have a little money to do something about that, but replacing this old failing Win XP SP2 Pentium III PC from 2003 that I'm still using will likely be higher on my priority list.
28. baldilocks (Posts: 740; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)
It does if you jailbreak it. But, that seems to be a rare thing nowadays.
39. hepresearch (unregistered)
Well, it is definitely discouraged when getting a file browser on your phone also happens to involve voiding your warranty and making your device a pariah at the "Genius Bar" for the rest of its life...
93. jaoowolabi (Posts: 201; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
if you've ever jailbroke an idevice you know you can always restore. so you can always have your warranty
118. hepresearch (unregistered)
Well, okay, I've never owned one to jailbreak, and I have never met any friend or neighbor or family of mine who have tried to jailbreak one... but still, I guess if you are willing to play that devious game of "I'll jailbreak my iPhone and then restore it to fool the warranty guys," well, then you would seem to fit right in at Apple in some way, already. I could not do that... not because I would be incapable, but because I believe in being honest. Apple's warranty on the iPhone IS violated by jailbreaking... and restoring your phone just so you can take it in is deceitful enough on its own, and also fool-hardy at worst if you actually get busted for doing that.
151. Deicide (Posts: 82; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
It's Apple's fault for not allowing more customisation. If Apple cared for it's customers more, it would have enabled their users more freedom like Android. I don't feel bad at all for deceiving us since they rip things straight off of other companies, trying to rip us off w/ their insane prices, not listening to us users about what we want, and trying to sue everyone all over the place.
168. hepresearch (unregistered)
I would feel bad about deceiving people, even if they tried to deceive me first. Just because they do it doesn't make it right for me to do it. So, I don't care if people jailbreak their iPhones... more power to them... but I would never recommend restoring the thing just so you could pull the wool over the eyes of one of the "Geniuses" at the "Genius Bar" because that is a deceitful (a.k.a. a LIE) and just plain wrong.
I mean, sure, everyone lies at some point, so it's like I just became the biggest hipocrite in the forum by saying what I did... but seriously, are we going to sit here and say, "Aw... crap... well, I know I lie sometimes even without trying to, so I may as well lie more often to get more stuff for myself," or are we going to reject the idea of embracing the bad part of our nature... and say "Aw... crap... well, I know I lie sometimes even without trying to, but I'm trying harder every day to fix that."
187. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's stupid. If its a warranty issue you're not cheating anyone by restoring and taking advantage of the warranty you paid for.
191. hepresearch (unregistered)
Ummm... yes, you are. I am not saying that jailbreaking in and of itself is a bad thing... what I am reminding people about is that Apple SAYS that your warranty IS voided by jailbreaking, and once a warranty is voided it cannot be un-voided... because that is part of the definition of a warranty. Insurance is like a warranty, but also covers all the terrible accidental user-induced problems that warranties do not, and can not, cover. If you DO something, willingly and knowingly, to jailbreak your iPhone, then you have violated the terms of the manufacturer's warranty... and restoring your device is a way for you to cover your activities from the sight of Apple. Just because you CAN do something wrong, and still easily get away with it, doesn't always mean that you SHOULD. You know, integrity is often defined as the measure of how honest you are with yourself and others when no one else is watching...
194. chuckster123 (Posts: 11; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
The reason apple doesn't have as much custimization (like widgets) is that it drains battery. And iOS doesn't run apps in the background. This makes idevices run faster and last longer. And apps load quicker. So it would only take you a second or two more to get into say a weather app. And the pull down menu, it has the weather on there. So there you go.
211. chilenoneto (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
"The reason apple doesn't have as much custimization (like widgets) is that it drains battery. And iOS doesn't run apps in the background. This makes idevices run faster and last longer. And apps load quicker. "
Copy paste from the Apple press release?
quoting Sheldon: In what universe the iphoneX (all of them) last longer than other phones? in terms of battery, Iphone sucks just like every full-equiped smartphone out there, and without the gadgets/widgets/whatever...
Not even mentioning that if you wish not to use them, in android you CAN disable them... if you dont like some feature from IOS, you must jailbreak/tamper/hack your iphone.
182. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
okay so u comment constantly on apple articles, yet u dont even own an iphone nor have ever tried one? and your trying to give jailbreak advice without ever trying it? seriously?
and its impossible to "get busted" jailbreaking isnt even illegal… there is absolutely nothing wring with it… yes downloading apps is illegal, but thats not the point of jailbreaking anyways…
192. hepresearch (unregistered)
Since when did this become an "Apple-only" article which I ought not to comment on because I never owned an iPhone? Does this article not also pertain to Android and WP? I have played with plenty of other people's iPhones, and in-store demo iPhones... my parents and I are an island of non-iPhones in a sea of iPhone users in the community where we live, so to say that I have no clue about iPhones is just a little rediculous. My brother and his wife have iPhones and an iPod Touch. My best friend at church, who I get rides to church with (and who, until recently, owned a Nokia Lumia 710), has an iPhone, an iPad, a Mac, a MacBook Pro, an iPod Touch, and a couple other iPods. One of my other friends from church, a Penn State IT-guy and one of the few remaining Android fans I know (although he lives two counties away... not in the same immediate community), just got married to a wonderful lady, also who we all know from church, who has an iPhone, an iPod, and a MacBook Pro.
There is nothing wrong with owning a iProduct if that's what you like. There is nothing wrong with jailbreaking an iPhone, if that's what you want to do. Jailbreaking is no less legal than rooting, ROMming, and unlocking... but to do it, and then go into Apple Care for warranty support, when Apple has made it clear that your warranty is voided by such activity, and ask for warranty support after making sure to restore the thing is definitely shady-dealing. You are LYING to Apple Care when you jailbreak an iPhone, and then go for warranty service and pretend that you never ever jailbroke the thing.
207. jmblaney86 (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Jan 2012)
not for nothing but thats probably why you went bankrupt in the first place, integrity, honesty, all that other mumbo jumbo is great and all but seriously in life the "nice" guy gets screwed and goes bankrupt, no disrepsect and all even tho i know it sounds like it but seriously, its a litle judgemental and/or hyprocritical to say that restoring a phone for warranty purposes isnt honest or is being deceitful, jailbraiking doesnt neseccarily damage the phone, most cases it does no damage actually, the reason why it voids your warranty is because it could potentially damage it and they dont want to replace a damaged phone that wasnt accidental or because some schmuck didnt have a clue what he was doing, no if you can restor your phone back to warranty then jailbraiking it didnt actually do any damage therefore making their reasoning for loosing the warranty in the first place absolute nonsense.
208. hepresearch (unregistered)
I hear ya, but if the world really is setting us all up to have to break the rules in order to just survive... then will life really be worth living at all after that?
It doesn't matter if it breaks me or sucks me dry... I draw the line at dishonesty. If a person is so oppressed by the "rules" and laws of their location and time that they cannot survive without letting go of their integrity, then there is no way for someone like me to live in this world anymore. Life would mean very little if everyone who is still alive at that point is completely devoid of integrity. I would rather die than lose what integrity I have left.
2. kanagadeepan (Posts: 920; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
Looks like WP8 has smoked iOS as a whole!!!!
More the choices, more the merrier.... But still some basic things are missing in WP like BT file transfer, File manager, that will prevent Android users to jump to WP8...
But as some analysts predicted, it may start eating iOS shares from now...
But friends, DO NOT RUSH TO GET A WP7.5 DEVICE NOW AS IT IS NOT GOING TO GET WP8 ANYWAY...
137. Owoteva (Posts: 9; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)
Yeah..cause it's ridiculous that MS couldn't figure out how to get NFC or high-res screens into all that old hardware, what kind of legacy support is that?!
Good thing I bought my super android phone just before Google announced ICS and now I'm just waiting for my update so I can rub all you WP7 fanboys nose in it with my fully supported updated phone.......any month now.......wonder if I'll get it when Jelly Bean comes out?
Oh well, at least I can talk to Siri on my iPhone 4....say what now?
144. SherlockHolmes (Posts: 125; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
We do not need SIRI to talk we got FRIENDS !!
155. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1178; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
first off you idiot NFC is hardware not software you can't get via update second of and last I don't see Google making something like WP7.8 for devices that don't support ICS
and I'm a Meego user by the way not a WP user so yeah >:p
177. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
No need to call names... You can correct someone without being rude, you know?
3. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
What about USB hosting/peripherals support?
Android is untouchable, a true open source, completely flexible OS, with the potential that is just starting to unfold.
4. Victor.H (Posts: 653; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Absolutely, point taken, will add it later to the comparison!
141. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)
Yeah also why can features of a jailbroken iPhone be considered for one of ios6 features (cydia)..
Because one could say that ios6also has widgets due to cydia and that all Android phones have extra capabilities if they root.
It just doesn't make sense that you would add a jailbroken feature to just one of the options. Isn't it either all or nothing..
The fair thing to do would be to compare "stock" operating systems
158. Victor.H (Posts: 653; Member since: 27 May 2011)
It's rather whether the OS allows some relatively easy way to sideload apps or not. This could be important for users who want to install app off the offical marketplace.
183. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
not really.. jailbreaking is often no harder than clicking an app on ur computer.. or used to be just going to a site on safari.. idk how complicated it is to root but jailbreaking is so easy and unlocks the iphone to a world of customization and such
186. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I understand and it's a fair decision you have made. But then you have lost your warranty if you jailbreak so that's just what gets me about the addition of Cydia being there.
Root is as simple as connecting to the computer and using a one click method for a majority of android phones I have rooted. (Some even have an application that you can load onto your phone and do it without a computer)
23. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Agreed. It's open source nature allows so much more possibility then it's close minded competition.
5. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I beg to differ on offline maps. In the Labs section of Google Maps, you can save a map and route for later. Granted, it won't be live with traffic or anything, but it's offline and on a free app that comes with the phone.
9. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Thanks, Sniggly. I had always wondered about that, but just now learned about it.
67. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Wow, a lot of people are going around thumbing down everything. This comment basically says "thanks" and has two thumbs downs.
Guess Taco and Gallitoking are angry that iOS got dead last and are going around thumbing down every last comment with their 20 different accounts. Lol.
150. jroc74 (Posts: 6004; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Its just ppl that have no life basically. There are some things I dont agree with in different articles....but I dont thumb down just because.
But thumbing down someone saying thanks?? wow....lets you know the mindset of some folks. I say as long as they post less....thumb down til your hearts content...would rather see the red thumbs than the craziness that flows from some folks.
14. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4816; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Damn Sniggly I was going to say that! lol +1 my friend!
Android is still the most robust OS, but WP8 just leaped froged iOS6 big time.
I must admit this is one hell of an update to the WP platform. WP fans should have lots to be happy about. Well, well there goes my brothers first text about WP8. Yes he is the ULTIMATE WP fan! lol
37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
good catch .. ya beat us all to it.
also the peripheral connection is not Needed on android since it allows direct access to the memory when plugged into the computer. the way that category is set up it looks like a negative for android when its really a positive since its universal and doesn't need a program
159. Victor.H (Posts: 653; Member since: 27 May 2011)
It's actually meant to be positive, will see if I can change the definition!
139. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)
Yea plenty of FREE apps for offline maps.
I use Locus Free and I can select and area of the world I want with any of the major map providers (Google maps, open street maps, ovi maps, etc) and also select the zoom level of detail I want the map to be in.
So if I don't want to fill my SD card with map data for any reason I can just get either just the closet level of zoom or only a couple levels of zoom.
Also you can activate your GPS and it pinpoints your location and shows you where you are on the map and this is all offline provided you have downloaded maps.
8. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
lets all b honest here, im an iPhone 4 and Galaxy tab 10.1 user. So Im not a fan boy of any operating system, I want tosee all of them improving, but let the thruth be told. Android is the most Advanced Mobile Operating System, not iOS, unless if I dont kno d meaning of ÄDVANCED"
Honestly speaking, lets put fanboyism aside and just b honest. Androidis the ish!
13. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I agree with a caveat. Symbian is arguably as (if not more) advanced than ICS. It isn't as flashy or have as many apps, but they both offer comparable levels of capabilities
24. hepresearch (unregistered)
Symbian is just as advanced, but is more mature and clean, and more stable over time. Also, the Symbian kernel EKA 2 is still alot smaller, and I can manage Symbian to my own liking by making coding changes to the platform itself for my own personal custom ROM for flashing onto my device. Symbian was complicated and people complained, but I could do ANYTHING with Symbian because it allowed me those freedoms that no other platform ever has before, or ever will again. Even Android 4.0 is not that free... even CyanogenMod 9 is not that free... S60 5th was a terrible departure, and S^3, although much feature-richer, was not a complete recovery back to the near perfection of S60 3rd customization and raw power-for-value. I may be a little sore about Symbian's death for a while, but that is because I will legitimately miss it.
123. MartyK (Posts: 808; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Not knocking Symbian (never had one), but if Symbian was this wonderful, why did Nokia dump it?, what was so bad about the operating system that it died out?, just curious.
128. hepresearch (unregistered)
Two words... complexity, and plainness. Most people who got a Symbian device just to be a smartphone early adopter or a fanboy complained that it was as miserable as Windows Mobile to use... it was equally complicated, and the file/menu system pretty much drove the entire device experience (which people who just wanted it as a phone hated); however, it was quite a bit more stable, and as processing power improved between 2005 and 2008 the stability improved as well with the release of S60 3rd Edition UI, at least on Nokia's end... I can't comment on how things were for Symbian UIQ users on Sony Ericsson devices. Unfortunately, from about 2008 to 2010, S60 3rd became stagnant and the N96 (supposed to replace the N95) was released with a seriously sub-par processor that hobbled the device. They also introduced S60 5th Edition, which also incorporated elements of UIQ and Series 80/90 all wrapped into one Symbian-based UI system... and it was a total disaster because Nokia was so set on resistive touch technology, and on PC-like ideas like double-clicking, and went out of their way to avoid being like iOS altogether... and that really killed them. When S^3 came out in 2010-2011, Nokia's Symbian was already cooked pretty bad even with the improved UI, new eye-candy, and capacitive touch tech in tow, and they had to make up for lost ground. They also had a problem of EKA 2 being limited to nHD displays (640 x 360). Perhaps they could have kept going, and continued to change to meet the demands of our time, but at some point someone decided that this was too expensive now, the decision was made, and they announced the transition to WP in February of 2011. Nokia was still the world leader in smartphone sales and total revenue when the announcement was made, and after only a year they had ceded those roles to Samsung and Apple (respectively)... went from comfortably in the #1 slot by a good margin to #3 and diving fast in just one year. It was very badly managed, basically to the point that it looks like intentional collusion was required to injure Nokia so badly this past year, and they made everyone wait for WP devices for eight months while still ramping down Symbian device production and sales. Now Nokia is essentially on a death watch...
160. Victor.H (Posts: 653; Member since: 27 May 2011)
All good and fair points, also I'd add that while outdated visuals are often said to be the main reason for Symbian's demise, other platforms like Android and iOS gave a huge boost to browsing and stressed the ease of going online. Symbian, in contrast, had - until its very latest days with Anna/Belle - a terrible browser.
Not only that, it seemed to have an overly complicated mail client with an interface straight out of a horror movie, that would almost always put the average user in dire straits for just the email setup.
But when it comes to purely phone-related functions Symbian offered more variety and was in many ways superior to the other OSs.
169. hepresearch (unregistered)
On the browser... yeah, I'll give you that. It was almost as bad as BlackBerry's browser, and after all, they were both WebKit-based back then (at least on S60 3rd Edition and BB 4/5.x). Now, I did not dislike the stock browser, but it did have its downfalls, and I always downloaded the latest Opera browser to use in parallel when I needed a feature that the stock browser did not offer (although, to be fair, there were some things that the stock browser did that Opera did not do, and some things that the stock browser even rendered better than Opera... if you waited for it).
As for the email client... yes, it was complicated as all get out... but it was insanely powerful! That client was a diamond in the rough for people like me, who needed to be able to handle extremely complex email tasks on proprietary servers, especially since Nokia support could help me set the thing up remotely. I could do anything that anyone on a PC with MS Outlook could do in terms of security/SSL, server-encryption, specifying ports, etc... all the complicated stuff that no one likes to deal with. Unfortunately, that complexity spread to the non-complicated end of email, such as setting up a gmail account or a yahoo account, or even an aol-messaging account... which was sort of stupid. But it was perfect for my purposes, and immensely powerful.
I totally agree... Symbian was amazing for its day, the time of classical smartphones which were mostly intended to keep you connected with enterprise features, help you organize your entire life and schedule, let you carry your documents and read (and even edit) them or share them (can't tell you how many times I have used IrDA or Bluetooth to work an in-house projector at a physics research conference to do presentations... from the phone!!! at universites across the country), and even code my own programs on-the-go with a C++ compiler ON MY PHONE (usable on the phone immediately after compiling and signing...), which I could then port to a C++ compiler ON A PC (... and then use on the PC immediately after compiling, too)! Symbian was amazing, and in order to get the current family of post-classic smartphones, OS-makers had to blast the multimedia capabilities (and the retail prices) into the stratosphere while dumbing down the functions of the devices that were most vital to my work.
170. hepresearch (unregistered)
Furthermore, I heard a lot of complaints that Symbian was just as bad and glitchy as WinMo... and this is just plain rediculous (well, there were a few devices that were duds, but for the most part Nokia made amazing devices). I had a T-Mobile Dash by HTC (200 MHz OMAP processor), and it would crash at least once every other day. It was sluggish most of the time, and if I happened to be working on a spreadsheet at the same time that someone tried to call me, then the phone would ring but could not be answered, and then the ringing would go to max volume as I would try to muffle the thing and turn it off, but it would not stop ringing... and I could only silence it once I had pulled out the battery. For me there is simply no comparison there. Series 80 (Nokia 9300... 150 MHz OMAP processor) would only crash if I left it on for almost two months without turning the phone off, and with all of my usage it never seemed to struggle too much (it lagged a little when under strain, but always got the job done in a timely manner). Even when it did crash, it did not crash so hopelessly as to require a battery pull... if left alone for 15 minutes, it would recover itself and I could keep right on going where I left off. S60 3rd Edition was even better, and I never had a problem with lag, or sluggishness, or crashing... ever! My N75 and E75 were absolute joys to own!
Don't forget that it will now take all Android OEM's about three more years at their current sales pace to outsell all of the Symbian phones ever sold since their debut back in 2000...
189. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
if it's so advanced why NOKIA killed it? And lay off their hard workers that put it together
190. hepresearch (unregistered)
Because it makes less money than Android devices or iPhones... and unfortunately, WP Lumias made even less money for Nokia than any Symbian device sales ever did...
So, while Nokia Symbian devices often represented a great value... a lot of phone for less money (which made less profit for Nokia per unit over time) in their day... they also represented a 'terrible user experience' for the average 'new smartphone acquirer' after the advent of the iPhone (2007), Android (2008), and others.
People liked capacitive touchscreens and simplicity when they arrived on smartphones, and although older classic Symbian smartphones were very powerful, and still are, they're still way too complex for most people to have an intuitive experience with, unlike the very fluid and elegant experience they would have on an Android, iPhone, or WP device. And these days, intuitive convenience and simplicity are what REALLY sell...
19. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
And I am sure ther wil b more stuff for 4.1
Its a good thing when other platforms perform well, it pushes other OS to their limits, which benefits us the consumers and innovation improves the way we use of gadgets.
If only Apple could give me all that iOS 6.0 offers, since im not holdinng 4S. Sucks
34. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
dude why dont you just get an android phone man...lol