Microsoft's acquisition of Nokia's phone business to be finally closed on April 25
0. phoneArena 21 Apr 2014, 10:29 posted on
Starting this month, Microsoft will have full control over Nokia's Devices and Services business. It looks like the name Nokia Oyj will be gone, too...
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1. express77 (unregistered)
I remembered that day.
22. Doakie (Posts: 1409; Member since: 06 May 2009)
The day the USA once again had two phone manufacturers. Google is selling Motorola to Lenovo and a legendary US cellular manufacturer is becoming a Chinese company. Now a legendary Finnish cellular manufacturer is becoming an American company under Microsoft's ownership. It's like musical chairs.
But if you had told me back in the Palm Pre days that Palm wouldn't be around anymore, Motorola would be Chinese, and Microsoft would be the only other American phone manufacturer besides Apple I would have laughed you off this planet.
32. akki20892 (Posts: 3732; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Only one wrong decision can makes wrong turn.
In 2011. It was wrong decision by flop.
2. alterecho (Posts: 1094; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
"You need to either adapt, or die, and Nokia chose to become a part of Microsoft in order to avoid the latter"
And it accelerated the latter. Whatsmore, its not Nokia that chose to adopt WP.
It was a decision taken by Microsoft Employee, first foreign CEO of Nokia, Nokia's nemesis, Stephen Elop.
Nokia is not the same anymore. Lots of Nokia employees left the company, one of the prominent of which is , Marko Ahtisaari, Nokia's product design head.
Really hope Nokia is back making devices in 2016, when the contract with Microsoft on usage of name, is over.
15. akki20892 (Posts: 3732; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Just have some hope, I'm dam sure that in 2016 Nokia will come back. Just 2 years.
18. ihavenoname (Posts: 1561; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
People said the same thing about 2012 and 2013 in 2011 (first Nokia WP). Nokia has already made it's comeback, but not as the same as it was long time ago.
25. bbblader (Posts: 585; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
If they did proper android phones alongside with the Lumia lineup from the start,they would be way better.
29. akki20892 (Posts: 3732; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
That time Nokia announced masterpiece N9. That's why people said that, but they ditched meego and went in wp. Wp let down Nokia. That time Nokia should have been choose android, instead wp.
38. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
Honestly I don't get why everyone thinks Android would have saved Nokia. If Nokia is something special than people would have brought Nokia phones regardless. I don't see a typical android user like myself buying a Nokia just cause when Samsung is cheaper. I think they made the right choice in choosing microsoft as a partner.
21. Doakie (Posts: 1409; Member since: 06 May 2009)
If Marko Ahtisaari was really pivotal on Nokia's great build quality and industrial design why hasn't a competing company scooped him up? Imagine if Asus or Acer, or maybe one of the Chinese firms scooped him up. This would be great news.
3. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 679; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
D*mn that MS, because of their secret agent(Elop), the legendary N-Series and E-Series are no longer exist.
33. corporateJP (Posts: 2148; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Word. April 25 will now be officially a sad day...
39. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
the N and E series died a long time ago. Lumia will still exist, if anything now they have more cash and closer relationship with the OS team.
4. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2058; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I'm excited for the future. Nokia & MS collaboration will be great for the already wonderful platform, i.e. WP.
6. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 679; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
They need to revive the E-Series because WP and E-Series is a perfect combination. And also l missed the elegant design on the E-Series.
20. Kriksis (Posts: 84; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Still waiting for that to happen. Just love the E-series handsets from NOKIA...
26. skinny95black (Posts: 113; Member since: 06 Jan 2013)
They should make one of them for android and the other one for wp
49. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3567; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yes!.. Now Lumia devices will be even better, and MS will be able to get them into the hands of more people.. This is the best thing to ever happen to Lumia devices, and WP.... Now, give me WP8.5/WP9.0!
This is seriously good news for consumers because they finally will get a new platform to be excited about... Because iDroid is running it's course, and the excitement is wearing of big time..
5. brrunopt (Posts: 601; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Nokia Corporation will continue to exist
Microsoft is buying Nokia Oyj (Nokia Corporation devices division) , not Nokia Corporation.
7. Deaconclgi (Posts: 372; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Exactly.... For like the millionth time, Microsoft is NOT buying Nokia!
It really is a shame. Microsoft and Nokia have been crystal clear as to what the deal entails yet writers keep saying Microsoft is buying Nokia.
Come on writers, get it together!
8. PBXtech (Posts: 994; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Not really the same though. When most people think of Nokia, they think of their phones, not necessarily their services. Still, as long as the Corporation continues to exist, they can build smart phones after a few years and get back into the market should they decide to.
9. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 679; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Yeah but without device and service bussiness, they almost have no power now.
10. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3434; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
They still have their rubber boots :)
Or maybe Microsoft takes them too?
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11. Beijendorf (Posts: 328; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Actually, without the Devices & Services division, they are now a very profitable company with one of the largest networking divisions in the world. They also have a very successful research division, and a massive patent portfolio.
Essentially what Nokia did was shed the burden of a non-profitable bloated division to ensure a brighter future for their other divisions.
40. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
Agreed, Nokia will be much stronger now. I think the phone market is dying down. If someone has a Galaxy S4/S5 why would they upgrade to a new phone (if they could even afford too).
12. Florin.T (Posts: 140; Member since: 16 Dec 2013)
Well, we're obviously saying that Microsoft is only buying Nokia's phone division, and that "Nokia will no longer exist as a company that makes phones." So, yes, we do know that Microsoft isn't acquiring Nokia Corporation altogether.
34. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
No offense, but you were not exactly clear about the fact that Microsoft is only purchasing Nokia's D&S, and not Nokia itself. Nokia's new business model (NSN) is doing just fine, and the company is due to reap new profits derived from the telecom industry. No more phones doesn't mean the end of Nokia, but it is certainly marks end of a particular era that saw many of the top smartphone industry giants fall victim to Apple, and then Google. We'll see if good ol' Microsoft can give em' a run for their money. My guess is that the competition is about to get even more intense (good for consumers!).
37. Deaconclgi (Posts: 372; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Yet you then go to say "Nokia chose to become a part of Microsoft in order to avoid the latter".
Nokia is not becoming a part of Microsoft.
Come on Florin.....own up to the fact that what you wrote has contradictory statements. One moment, Microsoft is buying Nokia's Devices and Services business (true) the next, Microsoft is buying Nokia (false).
You say you know that Microsoft is only buying Nokia's phone division yet you write that Nokia is beginning a part of Microsoft?
It's unfair to readers to have to police articles for clarity and accuracy. We should find clarity in the journalism just by reading the article. You are making us work man! :)
In the end, we like PA and we are just trying to protect the integrity of the site. I don't want to feel like I have to get my news from another site because I can't trust the accuracy of the information I read here.
51. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
its nothing new
we love nokia
we dont like wp
52. Florin.T (Posts: 140; Member since: 16 Dec 2013)
Deaconclgi: all right, you do have a point there. So now it's "Nokia, as a phone maker, chose to become a part of Microsoft." I hope this clears everything, and no one will finish reading the article with the impression that Microsoft bought Nokia entirely.
14. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
lmao at all what these few years brought to nokia
16. RandomUsername (Posts: 656; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)
I wonder how many people have left Nokia since Elop took over...
17. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
I remember when I was a kid everybody had a nokia, and only a nokia.. the last few years all I see are apples and samsungs ... I just don't know what went wrong ...
23. Doakie (Posts: 1409; Member since: 06 May 2009)
Nokia rode the Symbian horse too long then picked Windows Phone. If Nokia had on the market right now a Lumia 1020 with Kit Kat on it I'd own one of those instead of my Note 3 right this second. I naturally would probably have moved to a Lumia 930 on Android once it was released. Nokia's hardware was never the problem. It was the lack of ecosystem with their Symbian phones that slowly killed them.
41. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
You might have but I wouldn't. Samsung would still make hardware-wise supperior phones. Honestly the only time I have ever considered getting a Nokia Phone is because of possible switch to Windows Phone.
47. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
I remember they built durable and fast devices, I guess it all started with apple releasing a full touch slim (at the time) phone, while nokia didn't really come up with a good contender to counter this move, then enter google and android which seriously adopted the full touch idea, my opinion is that nokia should have adopted the os from the beginning instead of symbian, as android is an advanced os for everyone, nokia is a company for the rich and poor, young and old .. instead they allowed a huge company with an endless budget to come and take it all ..
19. Anshulonweb (Posts: 419; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
I hope they don't drop Nokia branding on devices and go for Microsoft branding......
48. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
We all know it's just a matter of time before seeing the Microsoft brand name on the back of future lumias ..
24. Karriope (Posts: 95; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)
I know I don't like the idea of having a Microsoft branded phone... somehow.
42. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
Who cares, it's a company. If they make good ones, good. if the make bad ones avoid them. Phone Fanboyism is as bad as video game fanboys.
27. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Welcome to the Brave New World of Microsoft Mobile -- where formerly proud independent Finnish people now swear their allegiance to the evil masters of Microsoft and their quest to dominate the world with the Windows monoculture.
28. greatoneiw (Posts: 41; Member since: 08 Apr 2014)
no more N and E series....shame ! those good old days... i remember how exited people were for N95 ...
they were they guys who pushed the business not apple , not Samsung ...
now , i really don't see the reason for migrating to WP , android is just better,,,
31. domfonusr (Posts: 376; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
Yep... it really is the end of an era. I had an N75, an E62, an E75, even an N800, so I remember the N and E-series days well. Now there won't be any more Nokia's at all.
45. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
During their heyday, the N and E series phones were the very best on the market! It's a real shame that we will most likely never see an N or E series handset again. It would be great if the N and E series names were included in future Lumias, with the N for multimedia and the E for enterprise, just like the good old days.
50. domfonusr (Posts: 376; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
That would have been kind of cool to have the N and E-series names back again. The more I see of Windows Phone 8.1, the more I am liking it. Android is a good first choice for me right now, but WP is becoming a stable second choice and getting better. I was really hoping at one point that BB10 would become a force to be reckoned with, but that doesn't seem to have materialized as yet. I am not happy that Nokia is going bye bye, but I'll be keeping a watchful eye on Microsoft Mobile Oy.
35. Liveitup (Posts: 1730; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
The Android fanboys once again over running the MS articles, they obviously have little idea of what they are talking about. WP is an excellent platform and it has a very bright future ahead. The Android fanboys will only be happy when an Android monoculture exists. Classic examples of haters will hate.
The bash the MS company who inspired their favorite Google/ Apple to change their design language, ungrateful people.
36. Liveitup (Posts: 1730; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Anyone who blames MS for what happen is grossly ill informed and needs a history lesson, judging by the comments here there are quite a few who needs to attend classes.
43. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
Seriously some of these idiots will blame everyone but Nokia. Microsoft saved the Mobile division and now the rest of Nokia is profitable. Maybe if the Phone market keeps growing, Nokia can get back in.
44. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I'm going to give this new Microsoft Mobile division the benefit of the doubt. With the two now working much closer together, we may see some great innovations. Here's to hoping that's what happens.
46. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
And here it comes, the end of an era...