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Microsoft sued over patents concerning Live Tiles in Windows 8 and Windows Phone

0. phoneArena 31 Oct 2012, 15:45 posted on

When we first saw this headline, we had two thoughts in quick succession: 1) Of course someone has a patent on squares and rectangles that deliver information to users!, and 2) Why wasn't this lawsuit filed against Microsoft when Windows Phone 7 was released?...

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posted on 31 Oct 2012, 16:45

12. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


http://www.surfcast.com/patents.php

But what do they do besides suing?

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 16:55 1

14. Aeires (unregistered)


So why didn't MS approach SurfCast and request a license deal? Seriously, they could have easily augmented that with the Android license fees they charge. If they lose, they're screwed, better start getting W9 ready ASAP.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 16:59 6

15. theBankRobber (Posts: 681; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


They got rejected before because of prior art, why not man up and pay royalties . They have alot of nerves calling others thieves and copycats but they are doing it themselves. I feel they learned a few tricks from Apple to beat around the bush for this approval.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:05 7

16. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


So M$ copied Apple on how to manipulate US Patent Office :D

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:13 3

18. theBankRobber (Posts: 681; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Yes or reword what the patent does or how its used. Isn't that how a patent for rectangles came into light of day with phones and tablets? Haha LMAO

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:16

20. papss (unregistered)


Right and let me guess Google is completely perfect?

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:21 3

22. theBankRobber (Posts: 681; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Thumb me down all you want but the difference is Google doesn't ATTACK and call others thieves and copycats like Microsoft and Apple both do. Don't be so damn blind, open up your eyes and see the truth because its right in front of you. Also don't give me that Google and Motorola crap because all the suits were going on Before Google bought them out.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:32

25. papss (unregistered)


Why don't you stop being so blind! All are copying on some level and if this is any worse then say HTC windows design that is similar to Nokia. So I guess they should sue...and no it's not in front of me.. I fully believe that there was no copying involved in this matter.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:06

17. PM8888 (Posts: 10; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Is Joe Belfiore a tool?

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:14 2

19. papss (unregistered)


First of all just because it is similar doesn't mean MS copied anything. To say they didn't come up with this themselves is ludicrous.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:21 5

21. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Hmmmm Samsung phones looked similar to iphone as per Apple and Apple wants money for something looking similar. Microsoft went after LINDOWS because it SOUNDED similar to WINDOWS.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:30 2

24. Gaytor (Posts: 51; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)


Non sense . These sort of patents should not be granted .

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:34 3

26. pongkie (Posts: 634; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


yay teh start button is back

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 17:52

27. lonestrider (Posts: 88; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)


I love the last sentence.
"bravo US Patent & Trademark Office, you have gone above and beyond in your never-ending quest to destroy the meaning of patents, and make sure all companies get the opportunity to waste money on lawsuits rather than innovation."

Everyone is confused and s**tted by US Patent. Not Apple, not anyone.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:30

32. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Finally someone sue M$

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:34

33. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)


Next,who will patent triangle icon?

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:55

36. lyndon420 (Posts: 4560; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Cough up the money ms. Maybe then you'll understand what its like to come up with what could be a good product, and to have some piece of crap company come along to ruin everything for you. Karma....its just and fair.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 20:00

37. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


I think its strategic positioning from the company trying to get Microsoft to buy them.

And they probably didnt bother filing it back in WP7 because of hte fact that WP7 is more or less a failure, due to lack of support by Microsoft and OEMs. Microsoft will do everything in its power to make sure this doesnt happen to WP8, and this will include settling a case in some way like this.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 02:29

49. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Yes like they bought over LINDOWS copyright for 20 mil only after losing in court. So M$ will buy only if they lose in court but price could be higher as this is not a Copyright issue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._Lindows

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 20:45

39. osaFromJava (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


buy this company.
case closed..

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 19:42

56. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Not if they don't sell...hahahaha

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 20:51 1

40. osaFromJava (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


http://www.surfcast.com/index.php

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 19:43

57. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Wow!! :)

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 10:03

51. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1556; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I think this thing will be settled before it hits the courts if this company is on the stock exchange Microsoft could buy enough controlling stock to take it over and reverse the suit or lets be for real this company has done nothing with this UI this their Golden opportunity to become part of Microsoft in a big way or make millions on a concept that they never got to the market place. I think it is best they go for the money and get some royalty fees and glory. if they ban Microsoft from using this UI then Microsoft smart phones will look like old windows Mobile smart phones and Microsoft tablets will have the good old windows 7 desktop with dead do noting Icons what a disaster.
smart phones, Desktop/Laptop computers, in ware houses, stores would have to be recalled and reprogrammed.to windows phone 8 without tiles this is a disaster in the making.but I think the love for money in the form of royalty fees will prevail

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 12:11 1

52. fervid (Posts: 183; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Maybe when everyone is suing everyone else the patent system will realize how flawed it is. Someone needs to get a patent on a system for storing and cataloging ideas then sue the patent office for infringing on their patent. This is getting crazy.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 19:41

55. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


"A variety of information sources into grid of tiles each of which can refresh its content independently of the others.”

I think this says it all, Microsoft has/did infring on this company patent.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 23:57

58. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


microsoft should just buy that company! :P

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 04:18

59. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1556; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


hmm if Microsoft loses the court case and the Surcast people do not settle for royalties
and have Microsoft banned from using live tiles. this would cost Microsoft billions of dollars. Microsoft tablets and smart phones windows 8 computers would have to be recalled or a software fix would be applied to all these devices to remove the Tile interface that wont be so hard to do to the Windows 8 PC program because you can go into regedit and get the Desktop back and avoid the metro screen but it would be the death of Windows phone 7 and 8 and it's tablets A blow like that would set set Microsoft back 3 years unless they revive the Old windows Mobile OS and update it with the NT core but not have live tiles just dead damn icons again! Folks this is like a
Hollywood suspense movie everybody wants to see what is going to happen. If I were Microsoft I would look into reviving Old Windows Mobile.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 13:52

60. cdgoin (Posts: 539; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


Anyone notice other than being square the patent art looks nothing like a live tile..? I don't think MS should be very concerned.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 04:43

61. Mfa901 (Posts: 286; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)


I m going to sue facebook for using first letter of my nameon its logo

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