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Microsoft signs Android royalty agreement with Dell

0. phoneArena 27 Mar 2014, 19:50 posted on

It has been widely reported that Microsoft makes perhaps as much as $2 billion per year in Android...

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posted on 27 Mar 2014, 19:54 5

1. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


When will these secret patents that ms claims to own be made public knowledge? I want to see them.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:03 2

3. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Yea that too. I thought one time it had something to do with maps....but if it does it wouldnt make sense. Still doesnt make sense because shouldnt they be going after Google and Google only?

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:30 4

15. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Google let's OEM's use Android for free, so technically it's pointless to try and sue Google for monetary damages when no revenue is generated through distribution of the operating system. The OEM's on the other hand are making money from the millions and millions of consumers who are buying into the Android platform.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:13 1

7. AstronautJones (Posts: 272; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Secret patents? Patents are public knowledge once approved and published, except matters of "National interest".
I am sure the companies paying these licensing fees know why they are paying M$.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:55

9. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Its not that...its just for some reason....we know all about Apple and Samsung patents.....we barely know anything about MS's.

Maybe if one day someone decided not to pay and there becomes a lawsuit....we may know more. This got me doing some reading...seems the MS, Motorola case involved the patents it has Android OEM's paying.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:13 2

12. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Could be true...but they lost their mind trying to sue Motorola over this:

"Radio interface layer in a cell phone with a set of APIs having a hardware-independent proxy layer and a hardware-specific driver layer"

Moto basically invented the cellphone...I see why Motorola/Google were one of the few that fought back.

I dont know much about patents...but I have a feeling if more OEM's challenged MS.....they might also come out on top like Moto/Google did.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:24

14. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Google and Samsung are exchanging patent portfolios now, although I doubt it will do much for the current court cases already in progress.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:35

16. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Ok...somethings strange with these patents and the cases. Moto did have phones banned:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Microsoft-sues-U.S.-Customs-over-failure-to-enforce-Motorola-phone-ban_id45270

But...thats only one patent...Does that mean the other 8 were thrown out? And its wild that Google is the company behind Android...but only OEM's can get sued? Its just strange....

More info from more reading:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2070280/german-court-invalidates-microsoft-patent-used-for-motorola-phone-sales-ban.html

And it seems the biggest patent is about calendars or Outlook type apps.

http://www.bna.com/itcs-import-ban-n17179880855/

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:22

13. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Case in point - "...once approved and published" tells me that the patents in question are technically not theirs at least not yet. Of course the companies must know what they are, but they are put under gag orders and prevented from disclosing them.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:57

10. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


A post some made a few minutes ago got me thinking...doing some reading seems like the Moto, MS case has the patents in it.

For some reason it doesnt get as much attention as Apple vs Samsung. Here are the patents MS says Android OEM's are using:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/10/microsoft-sues-motorola-citing-android-patent-infringement/

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 19:54

2. jroc74 (Posts: 5171; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


What patents does Dell own?

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:12 2

6. akki20892 (Posts: 3603; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


The girl with dragon tattoo.

posted on 28 Mar 2014, 07:05

19. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


what patents does ms own that android pays fee to ms?

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:09 3

4. papss (unregistered)


Hmmm that's a nice deal for both of them.. I like this M$

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:10 2

5. Liveitup (Posts: 1489; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


If MS patent weren't valid then some of the largest companies on Earth would not comply, think about it.

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 20:44 1

8. PBXtech (Posts: 980; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


This is how things should be done, no banning or court cases involved, just corporations getting along properly.. Ahem,.....

posted on 27 Mar 2014, 21:01 1

11. sip1995 (Posts: 907; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Apple and SAMEsung should take a lesson from this.

posted on 28 Mar 2014, 01:09

17. dorian827 (Posts: 130; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)


Microsoft is the software world, without it there are many OS and programs that may have not existed or exist today. Some developers or most probably develop Chrome, IOS, Firefox OS and BlackBerry, etc apps off a Windows PC.

posted on 28 Mar 2014, 02:10

18. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 769; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)


I think I'm the only one who doesn't understand the agreement

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