Microsoft says Google is blocking development of official YouTube app for Windows Phone
0. phoneArena 03 Jan 2013, 01:30 posted on
In a new episode of “he said, she said,” Microsoft’s VP and Deputy General Counsel, Dave Heiner wrote up...
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1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
Microsoft is honestly recieving their due..........it may seem unfair to some but the truth is microsoft has brought this upon themselves by thinking "taking shots" will get them ahead of the competition! seems like they're paying that price now
3. MeoCao (unregistered)
MS, do you know what we normal people do when we need something? Pay and get the service.
Why the hell Google has to do this and do that to help MS?
68. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
But that doesn't make situation better Google once support open choices and " do no evil " slogan, but they are becoming like old Microsoft and MS is on Google's way to support everyone what an irony.
I never support monopoly and now Google is becoming monopolistic, its us normal people who were affected by this not Steve ballamer.
The reason is MS and Google are direct competitors in many services like docs,browser,search, mail,cloud drive,desktop and mobile OS etc.
I don't get shouting for MS charging money for their service, if you don't like it don't use simple.
Google had stopped caring for us normal people sad :-(
74. MeoCao (unregistered)
Every1 can use Google data provided Google gets paid. Google sells ads on the free apps, but WP has too few users so it's not worth the investment for Google to make their apps for WP.
MS can make app but they have to pay for the data as Google can't sell ads on the MS apps.
And don't believe that blocking bulls**t, MS is not a trust worthy source of information.
96. The.Truth.IS.Out.There (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
Because MS want to ruin Google
The Shadow War
For years Microsoft has devoted massive resources and energy to waging a sneaky shadow war against Google, fielding an army of lobbyists and front groups that exist almost completely to spread anti-Google propaganda, including ICOMP.org, Association for Competitive Technology, FairSearch and SafeGov
They call themselves “industry groups,” and they have lots of members, but they’re basically Microsoft fronts devoted to hating on Google. Take a glance through ICOMP’s newsroom and Voices” section and white papers and ICOMP in the News section. It’s pretty much all Google, all the time — and all negative. It’s a whole website devoted to bashing Google, and frankly it’s kind of incredible, in a twisted way.
click on the link for the FULL EVIL
7. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
Microsoft is blocking (even by fees):
free OS choice on W8 machines
paying to slam Linux and open source
bribing in Slovakia, Hungary, ..... everywhere
charges almost every Android manufacturers
....many many more
Google has almost everything important for free
die Microsoft, the Devil ;)
17. TheBullyWhoWantFREECandy (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
Microsoft need to learn the word "I scratch your back, you scratch my back". They have been bullying Google/Android all the time, why should Google/Android be nice to them?
I really hope the Microsoft & Apple patent monopoly will break, and we'll all be the winner.
21. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
You seem very blinded by an image spawned from the Google PR department.
Are you so shortsighted that you can't even understand that you're only trading one monopoly (Microsoft) for another (Google)?
Or are you in some kind of comfortably naive fanboy idea that Google don't care about making as much money as they can get away with, just as Microsoft and Apple?
... And that makes you OK with Google having monopoly on Search, E-mail, Online video, Online collaboration, Mobile OS, Maps, Advertising, and so on and so forth..?
Grow up, kid. Think it over one more time.
25. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
once again......THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN.........if you dont understand that then sit back and watch as microsoft "continues" to get what they are "asking" for.......NOTHING!
32. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
You all sound very, very young. No wonder people respond me with thumbs down instead of factual comments.
36. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
well we will see where your "factual" comments will get you soon enough
54. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
they are either very young or have very little real world experience....
I mean... they are literally promoting one monopoly over another
unlike google, M$ doesnt sell my information...but they dont care... they probably dont have jobs and have to wait for their parents to buy them a new gadget...
sgroogle, M$, crappple, oracle, etc all have monopolistic tendencies...all want to see their competitors fail
how "fans", who are not employed by a single firm, nor have stock in the companies, nor would benefit in any way shape or form, how they could defend either monopoly is so laughable its sad...
if either company could abolish the others they would in a heartbeat...
google sucks because it sells your info, apple sucks because it "owns" your info and M$ suck because you dont "own" the software you buy
which is why i only buy hardware....(certain hardware) software on the other hand.....
57. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
well once again if our comments are so foolish, then the results will be even MORE of a dissappointment to you......we'll see who gets the last laugh ....MR " I DONE IT ALL AND KNOW MORE THAN YOU"
62. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
This whole site is infested with these annoying kids who can't speak for themselves, but instead like chickens vote uncomfortable comments down. It doesn't even matter if they know what the F you're talking about, they just don't like hearing bad stuff about their favored company. Instant thumb down.
It's like a grade school popularity contest, and the camp with the most friends/followers win. Basic retarded logic, which naturally fits perfectly in this child infested environment. Pussies. No one has even said I'm wrong yet, they just disregard it and keep talking about how bad Microsoft is and how Google will save the day. There's no point here, I'm clearly speaking for deaf ears that never wanted to listen anyhow.
This site is a joke. PhoneArena should remove the chicken s**t thumbs down button altogether, forcing the illiterate pussies to speak for themselves instead of just patting someone else on the back.
I'm not even having Engish as my native language, but I don't give a F. So what's the English speaking losers excuse?
P.S. Prepare for this comment to get thumbs down purely because of the point I was making, which then obviously hit perfectly on target. Or perhaps no thumbs down at all based on this last comment :-) Tricky decision, Mr Voter.
73. lyndon420 (Posts: 4460; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
If I could give you 10 thumbs down I would...just because it seems to irritate you so much. Suck it up buttercup. It's a big cruel world out there, and if you can't handle some thumbs down then you need to creep somewhere else.
100. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
Oh, I can handle it. It's the tiresome fanboys who can't handle having a discussion that gets me irritated. So they dislike my comment, but why? Without giving me a reason, no one will know.
So I should think I was right all along and they just didn't like the sour "truth", and in the absence of a proper comeback all they managed to come up with was a thumbs down? Wouw, that's creative. Nice comebacks.
70. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Oh so looks like you worry so much about those thumbs up and downs and consider yourself too grown up to call others "very young". ... lol. Give this a thumbs down and report to PA :)
101. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
You obviously don't get what I'm talking about. And no, I wasn't the one flagging your comment making it hidden - your comment brought that upon itself.
72. lyndon420 (Posts: 4460; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
I'm over 40. Google should keep all their awesome services for Android...well maybe except search.
30. TheBullyWhoWantFREECandy (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
At least Google PR department doesn't hire a HITMAN like Mark Penn (phonearena.com/news/Microsofts-Scroogled-campaign-just-the-beginning-kitchen-sink-on-the-way_id37729).
AT LEAST google didn't (try) destroy other company like Netscape, DR-DOS, Novel WITH DIRTY TRICK. To refresh your memory (1) Win95 doesn't have IE integrated to their OS, then suddenly microsoft feel the need to integrate WINdows with IE. (2) Microsoft use a trick to make DR-DOS can't run Windows. If DR-DOS name renamed into MS-DOS, then it can run Windows.
Microsoft is also the cause of death of SENDO & NOKIA.
It's OK for me if GOOGLE having a monopoly on search, email, online video, etc. But I don't like it when MS did. Because when MS did, they want it in their way, but google do it in open way, ex. Google use & support THE OPEN SYNCML, any other company can use/create syncML. but if MS win, EVERYONE must PAY $$$$ for using ActiveSync.... LET'S FACE IT... GOOGLE IS BETTER!!!!!
MS also should make an office client for linux, android. They should also make internet explorer for linux, android. They should also port Direct-X to Linux, android. They should also make Zune for Linux, android....
HOW'S ABOUT THAT????
35. MarkPennISanAssHOLE (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
I'm not surprised if Henrik turned out to be one of the person who GOT PAID by Mark Penn / Microsoft to discredit Google.
42. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
Yeah, and that would make you paid by ... Google? See how easy it is to just throw it out there. Am I right, too?
40. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
Look, Bully, I'm not saying Microsoft haven't used faul tricks in their line of business. Because they have, it is true. But what I'm saying is that you are all so disturbingly wrapped up in the PR branded image of Google as a do-no-evil don't-be-evil company that always play by the books. So instead of even bothering about checking whether that's true or not, you focuse all your anger and attention to the fact that Microsoft has been a bad guy.
Are you in the opinion that Google is playing nice, and has always done so..? To hear you say "It's OK for me if GOOGLE having a monopoly" pretty much sums it up regarding how objective your view is on the matter. You are so wrapped up in your anti-Microsoft propaganda that you obviously forget to think about what you're saying. Obviously, just as you said, you like for one company to have monopoly on most areas of the internet and software, with no competition. Just as long as it's not Microsoft. Eh, do you even know what a "monopoly" is?
A monopoly is not better just because it has come to be through more "friendly" methods. It's the monopoly ITSELF that is the bad thing. No matter how you got there.
50. Henrik.IS.Mark.Penn (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
You admit it that Microsoft have played dirty!!!!
Google is NOT NOT NOT microsoft!!!!
When Google want to rule the world with Android, it create OHA (Open Handset Alliance) and invite the phone manufacture to be the PARTNER.. I REPEAT... PARTNER!!!! GOOGLE SHARE ANDROID GLORY with other manufacture!!! FREELY!!!!
Their Mobile adventure...
They destroy Sendo. First they ask Sendo to be their partner, then they sue Sendo and make it bankrupt. Then They put a trojan human into Nokia.
Judging by this 2 FACT alone, I would not BUY ANY OF MICROSOFT PRODUCT... EVER!!!!!
Microsoft Monopoly ==== PATENT THE WAY, MAKE OTHER PAY!!!!
GOOGLE MONOPOLY ==== USE/CREATE OPEN STANDARD, SHARE THE GLORY!!!! Fun Fact, look at the kindle FIRE. Kindle derive their OS from Android FREE!!!! And GOOGLE DIDNOT SUE THEM!!!!
So, it's as easy as 123. I WANT GOOGLE WIN. I want Google OPEN Standard to BE THE MONOPOLY!!!
58. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
Why wouldn't I admit it? I am more honest and objective on the matter than you'll obviously ever be. But I'm not stuck in the 90's still spewing desperate hate about it. I'm an adult, I move on and I am capable of understanding the bigger picture without limiting myself to a onesided discussion.
If people one day turn their back on Google AdWords, which generates 96% of Google's total profits, you will see what your open and free empire is really about. You see, everything's a sunshine story as long as someone else (the advertisters) is paying for your (Google) services. Should they ever stop paying, you will finally understand what it means having traded one monopoly behemoth for another. Because you do know that Google is OBLIGATED to make profits for their shareholders and investors, right?
64. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
why are you OK with one monopoly as opposed to another?
they are all bad... all the same...same desires different tactics
if you had google stock i would understand
if your ex had M$ stock i would understand even more...
monopolies are BAD...regardless of who they are
19. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)
I guess Google and Motorola Mobility should stop licensing their patents too then? Because by your definition, they seem to be equally "blocking" the competition even while offering licensing (just like Microsoft)..? Oh wait, Google actually is. Have you read Anything about the Xbox trial and the Motorola Mobility misuse of SEP and FRAND patents? (You should know that Google is the one handing the Motorola court cases.)
28. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
no, just sue Microsoft + Apple = real EVIL ;)
33. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
I use youtube everyday as a freak on my device and I checked wp8 device several days ago and youtube wasn't there.I though that It was the matter of time microsoft release the wp version but now It is difficult to see you tube on wp